1. SPECIAL NOTE TO NEW REGISTRATIONS

    If you recently registered and have not received a confirmation email - please check your 'Spam or Junk' folders. Especially if your email is Hotmail. More help with confirmation issues

    NOTE: This notice may be closed.

    Dismiss Notice

June 25 - 28 (Observations)

Discussion in 'Alpine & Southern' started by MickM, Jun 25, 2007.

  1. MickM

    MickM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold Ski Pass: Silver

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2001
    Messages:
    3,030
    Likes Received:
    1,246
    Location:
    Gordon, Vic
    May as well start the obs thread!

    Hopefully not too much rain for the resorts. If we can come out of this week without too much damage it will be a big plus. Esp with the following week temps looking nice and cold at this stage.
     
  2. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    May 12, 2000
    Messages:
    75,135
    Likes Received:
    38,747
    Location:
    Les Hautes Montagnes
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Been alternating between sleet and snow all morning.
     
  3. M-HD

    M-HD First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    6,838
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Where is here? (Buller?)
     
  4. Monaroq

    Monaroq First Runs

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2001
    Messages:
    386
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Vic
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    M-HD - Id say any comments from carve relate to buller. I hear they are changing the name of the run "fast one" to "carve one" in his honour!?!?
     
  5. FatBob

    FatBob Hard Yards

    Joined:
    May 28, 2001
    Messages:
    410
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Canberra
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Steady rain here in canberra for hours now.

    On it's way to the mountains.
     
  6. carto

    carto First Runs

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2005
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Nothing much yet on the NSW cams. Will be interesting to see what plays out here.
     
  7. M-HD

    M-HD First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    6,838
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Beat me by a few minutes...
    I have been looking at sat images, You can clearly see the cloudband on both the WV and IR. It is traveling in a northerly direction but the surface winds at the airport are southerly (albeit light)

    what we want to see is that cold air at the surface to hang around!

    nice cloud heading down the coast, some embedded thunderstorms... Some reasonable rainfalls with Ulladulla at ~30mm since 9am...

    The Melbourne sounding has mid level moisture and a FZL of ~1400m, but the Sydney sounding (in this cloudband) has a FZL of more like 2000m..

    So what would be nice to see is this cloudband to head off the coast, the warm air to deepen the low forming there, and this low to suck cold air from further south to interact with the moisture...

    Marginal... very very marginal...
     
  8. carto

    carto First Runs

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2005
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    -2.6 at Hotham with new snow on the road out the front of Hotham Central on the cam. Seems to be warming up a bit in NSW - Perisher at 0.
     
  9. SteepNDeep

    SteepNDeep First Runs

    Joined:
    May 23, 2002
    Messages:
    10,608
    Likes Received:
    1
    #9 SteepNDeep, Jun 26, 2007
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 14, 2013
  10. Snow Blowey

    Snow Blowey Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2004
    Messages:
    21,369
    Likes Received:
    13,498
    Location:
    Dubbo NSW
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    looks to be some snow on the thredbo cams now. Nothing showing up in the guage though.
     
  11. Ben Zeenees

    Ben Zeenees One of Us

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 1998
    Messages:
    3,113
    Likes Received:
    202
    Location:
    near Canberra
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Over 35mm of rain in the last day (east of Canberra at 800m). Currently 4.5C so the temperature in the mountains could be quite low. I believe it drops about 1C for each 200m in these sort of conditions (can someone confirm?). If so it would be blow zero at the top of Thredbo and PB. But above zero in Thredbo itself.

    Drove back from Wollongong this morning. The area between Sutton Forest and Goulburn is saturated. Perhaps both Goulburn and Sydney will have healthy dam levels after this lot.
     
  12. Ben Zeenees

    Ben Zeenees One of Us

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 1998
    Messages:
    3,113
    Likes Received:
    202
    Location:
    near Canberra
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Currently -2.2C at the Thredbo AWS (1957m). That equates to a drop of 1.72C per 200m. No precipitation at Thredbo AWS. [​IMG]
     
    #12 Ben Zeenees, Jun 26, 2007
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 11, 2013
  13. Tad

    Tad First Runs

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2004
    Messages:
    546
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Canberra
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Canberra's been cold and wet... currently 4.3 degrees, thats a drop of almost 3 degrees since 8am this morning. Almost 39mm of rain at the airport since 4am...

    The rain doesn't look like its getting to the snowies... [​IMG] At least it should be good for filling up the dams. I guessing the Molonglo river (the river that feeds into lake burley griffin) will be nicely flooded for the second time in the last week. Before that it was years since it'd happened. It wasn't even running at the start of the year.
     
    #13 Tad, Jun 26, 2007
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 11, 2013
  14. Curto

    Curto One of Us

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2006
    Messages:
    1,786
    Likes Received:
    71
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Lightly snowing at PB.
     
  15. Gimble

    Gimble First Runs

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2006
    Messages:
    287
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Newcastle
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    PB is pretty marginal, going from +0.5 at 1604 m to -2.5 at 1970 m.

    Looks like basically everywhere is just managing to hang below zero except for Baw Baw. They have all increased a few degrees in the last 6 hours but seem to be trending towards steady now.

    Please don't rain!!!
     
  16. Tad

    Tad First Runs

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2004
    Messages:
    546
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Canberra
    #16 Tad, Jun 26, 2007
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 14, 2013
  17. SteepNDeep

    SteepNDeep First Runs

    Joined:
    May 23, 2002
    Messages:
    10,608
    Likes Received:
    1
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    The weak cool change passing through Melbourne now will allay my fears of rain...until sometime tomorrow morning.
     
  18. Undies

    Undies Pizza! Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    May 15, 2002
    Messages:
    19,226
    Likes Received:
    10,842
    Location:
    Top drawer
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Both Temp and pressure on the drop at Thredbo now. -2.4 and 1013. Perhaps the BOM's latest blizzard warning might have some truth about it yet!
     
  19. M-HD

    M-HD First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    6,838
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Prescisely...
    This cold front forms the cold arm of the circulation... the warm arm is heading down the coast...
     
    #19 M-HD, Jun 26, 2007
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 17, 2013
  20. FatBob

    FatBob Hard Yards

    Joined:
    May 28, 2001
    Messages:
    410
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Canberra
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Is the cold arm going to contain any moisture though?

    The precip seems to be stoping around Cooma, although that could just be as far as the radar goes.

    It has started snowing lightly at Thredbo top station.
     
  21. M-HD

    M-HD First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    6,838
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Less than the warm air stream, there is your dilemma...
    Cold air tends to be dryer..

    the Saturation vapour pressure, ie the amount of water vapour you can have suspended in the atmosphere without condensation and cloud formation, is lower for cold air than it is for warm...
     
  22. mholling

    mholling Hard Yards

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2006
    Messages:
    91
    Likes Received:
    92
    Location:
    ACT
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    From Banks (south of Tuggeranong), I can see snow half way down Mount Tennent. And the northern slabs at Booroomba look like a ski field. The Tidbinbilla range must be covered!
     
  23. M-HD

    M-HD First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    6,838
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    PICS!?
     
  24. Tad

    Tad First Runs

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2004
    Messages:
    546
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Canberra
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    oh cool! I know where i'm going straight after work! As long as the roads open that is...
     
  25. FatBob

    FatBob Hard Yards

    Joined:
    May 28, 2001
    Messages:
    410
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Canberra
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    You mean there is new snow, or has that been there since this morning?

    I know they got snow that way last night.
     
  26. g-tox

    g-tox First Runs

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2007
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    0
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Hi all , my first post. Looks like a nice band of rain heading towards Hotham and Falls on the Sale Radar.
     
  27. skimax

    skimax Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2000
    Messages:
    30,817
    Likes Received:
    4,132
    Location:
    Melbourne Australia
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    hello g-tox , welcome
     
  28. Ben Zeenees

    Ben Zeenees One of Us

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 1998
    Messages:
    3,113
    Likes Received:
    202
    Location:
    near Canberra
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    As I reported earlier, lots of rain around Goulburn. The George Plain has now changed into the George Swamp. As the water drains to the deeper parts, a small Lake George may reappear. Lots of miserable looking sheep congregating on the higher parts. Not good being a sheep at any time, but especially now.
     
  29. Powerman7_42

    Powerman7_42 First Runs

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2007
    Messages:
    78
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Whyalla SA
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    So is that Ra!n of SNOW [​IMG] on the cams at Hotham?? Had a look at Fletch Cam but still couldnt tell!
     
    #29 Powerman7_42, Jun 26, 2007
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 11, 2013
  30. marko

    marko Hard Yards

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 1998
    Messages:
    381
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    adelaide
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Can see Tidbinbilla now and its covered nicely down to about 12-1300mts I would say. I drove back from Sydney to Canberra on Saturday and was surprised how much water seems to be making its way to Lake George.In my opinion the drought has nearly broken here we just need the run off to start accumulating which it will certainly be doing with this latest rain.
     
  31. M-HD

    M-HD First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2002
    Messages:
    6,838
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    In the 3pm obs the observer at Charlottes pass was reporting moderate snow (increasing from light snow earlier)
     
  32. Curto

    Curto One of Us

    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2006
    Messages:
    1,786
    Likes Received:
    71
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    The snow's coming in pretty fast now at PB.
     
  33. Hobber

    Hobber A Local

    Joined:
    May 22, 2002
    Messages:
    13,235
    Likes Received:
    59
    Location:
    Sydney
    #33 Hobber, Jun 26, 2007
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 14, 2013
  34. iSki

    iSki First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2003
    Messages:
    2,497
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Melbourne
    #34 iSki, Jun 26, 2007
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 14, 2013
  35. Makka

    Makka First Runs

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2003
    Messages:
    324
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Darwin
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Might be time for Brindie Cam M-HD!
     
    #35 Makka, Jun 26, 2007
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 17, 2013
  36. cashie

    cashie One of Us

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2004
    Messages:
    1,393
    Likes Received:
    14
    Location:
    Melbourne
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Any updates from Hotham?
     
  37. Bato

    Bato One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2005
    Messages:
    3,175
    Likes Received:
    661
    Location:
    Davos/Jindabyne/Brunswick Heads
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    I think PB is looking at a major dump form this. Smiggans and the bottom of the ridge might suffer but up high will have deep clag glue.
     
  38. markopolo

    markopolo Naughty Corner Resident Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2005
    Messages:
    73,098
    Likes Received:
    12,785
    Location:
    Caloundra
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    will that be good stuff to go underneath later falls, or does it form ice bars !!??
     
  39. hothams great

    hothams great First Runs

    Joined:
    Jun 20, 2007
    Messages:
    102
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    hotham vic
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Well no rain or snow yet today at hotham. Snowmakers are going for it at the moment, nice and cold outside.(lodge outdoor thermometer says -2.4) Fingers crossed it stays cold.
     
  40. Bato

    Bato One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2005
    Messages:
    3,175
    Likes Received:
    661
    Location:
    Davos/Jindabyne/Brunswick Heads
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    I think wet snow is the best for base building
     
  41. craigl56

    craigl56 Hard Yards

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2000
    Messages:
    209
    Likes Received:
    39
    Location:
    Sydney,NSW,AU
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Montague Island barometric pressure is dropping like a stone :-

    1800 1009.0
    1900 1007.4
    1933 1006.6

    [​IMG]
     
    #41 craigl56, Jun 26, 2007
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 11, 2013
  42. Bato

    Bato One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2005
    Messages:
    3,175
    Likes Received:
    661
    Location:
    Davos/Jindabyne/Brunswick Heads
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Thredbo is droping in temp to now down to -3.7
     
  43. Porkypine

    Porkypine First Runs

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2000
    Messages:
    926
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    West Africa
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    So when are we expecting the temp to start rising? So far temps are dropping.
     
  44. Bato

    Bato One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2005
    Messages:
    3,175
    Likes Received:
    661
    Location:
    Davos/Jindabyne/Brunswick Heads
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    BOM is predicting the will start going up some time tomorrow. Looking at the radar the NSW resorts could get a heap of snow before the start to raise.
     
  45. SteepNDeep

    SteepNDeep First Runs

    Joined:
    May 23, 2002
    Messages:
    10,608
    Likes Received:
    1
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    IMO, the temps will rise 3-4deg from dawn through midday.
     
  46. Neslot

    Neslot One of Us

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2002
    Messages:
    1,839
    Likes Received:
    68
    Location:
    Sydney, AUS, NSW
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    Just hit -4 at thredbo top station, also seems the barometer is falling rapidly too:)
     
  47. Gimble

    Gimble First Runs

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2006
    Messages:
    287
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Newcastle
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    I'm still waiting for the rain, but the last couple of model runs have been real improvements.

    Looks like PB has had a dusting during the day according to the cams.
     
  48. viswin

    viswin Hard Yards

    Joined:
    May 18, 2004
    Messages:
    180
    Likes Received:
    83
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    It is 7 deg in Bega where this solid bulk of rain is sitting. Looking at the movement on the radar, It should it NSW resorts during the night. I am pretty confident that temp will stay low during the night and that we are on (maybe) for a nice suprise.
     
  49. Cliff-jumper_2000

    Cliff-jumper_2000 First Runs

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2000
    Messages:
    3,022
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Vic, Australia
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    seems tobe snowing on the falls carpark am the carpark is getting white now!
     
  50. rollercoaster

    rollercoaster First Runs

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2005
    Messages:
    606
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Brisbane
    Re: June 25 - 28 Obs

    ^^looks like cold dry powdery snow as well.