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Trip Report Lady P’s return to Honshu: Shiga Kogen and Nozawa Onsen

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Lady Penelope, Dec 25, 2018.

  1. Tennex

    Tennex Hard Yards

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    That"s a big group to keep track of!! Like herding cats.
     
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    Kletterer Thredbo Doughnut Tragic Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    :thumbs: Keep the pics coming .
     
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  3. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes ....
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ahh but the memories you guys are making!!
     
  5. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Absolutely. And my children love skiing with my friend’s two. Having said that, I’m currently doing a few red and black runs while they amble back to Ichinose ;)
     
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    kaegee One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Was nice to see a pic of your daughter with a big smile .
     
  7. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks! She would never admit it, but she’s been having FUN tearing down the slopes and hanging with Miss 16.
     
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    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Well, the clouds did part this afternoon treating us to some glorious views. The scenery around here is wonderful when you can see ....





    We caught up with @elSpike and his family at Dairoku this evening, albeit with incredibly uncomfortable seating arrangements ....



    Last day in Shiga Kogen tomorrow before we head to Nozawa Onsen. A distinct lack of enthusiasm for the bus options to the far end of the resort. Oh well .....
     
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    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Friends are staying at oshiga hotel at the moment.. .... It looks very nice
     
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    Tanuki A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Looks like you'll get plenty of snow to village level at Nozawa later this week. Will be gorgeous.
     
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  11. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    We thought so too. And the Hotel Grand Phenix (sic) also seemed very swish (the toilets even had automatically opening lids when you entered the cubicle). Liked Okushiga Kogen; only problem would appear to be the distance from many restaurant/food outlets at night time.
     
  12. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    The bar is very nice.
    I think it's a case of you're there. .. Like a cruise ship
     
  13. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    *phenix is a Japanese snow brand. ... As well as a hotel
     
  14. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Oh, I wondered (particularly with the picture of a deer, rather than ... a phoenix!).

     
  15. elSpike

    elSpike I am a Meat Popsicle Ski Pass: Gold

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    Was great to catch up with you all. I’m sure I’ll get feeling back in my legs some day!
     
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    don't see much Phenix gear around. I lashed out and bought two of their beanies in Thredbo, and I've only seen it in one store in Canada so far
     
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    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I have a ski jacket, down, love it. Few years old now. Jindy sports.
     
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    Froff Life A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Tonight should see solid dumpage at Nozawa, enjoy! :)
     
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  19. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Some great views today as we ventured slightly further afield, making it to Maruike, Hasuike, and Sun Valley. Fantastic first tracks at Ichinose Diamond on lightning fast groomers, then another delightfully fast run down the black at Ichinose Family. While the black runs here are not terrifying, they are still classified as blacks and I have been proud of my increased control and speed on them. I’ve also had fun tackling a few bumpy ungroomed black runs.

    The views from Terakoya:





    We then enjoyed another pleasant run at Higashidateyama before trekking over to the Giant lift and heading off to Maruike. Arriving there at 11.00, we found untouched, perfectly groomed corduroy! More fast, carved runs .... On to Hasuike and Sun Valley (I think in that order), once again with barely another soul around. The views at Sun Valley were quite spectacular:





    My friend’s 13yo (with not many days’ worth of skiing experience) managed the black run at Sun Valley, earning some fist bumps from my boys ...



    Then, finally, we saw ... snow monkeys! A posse of them heading out of the trees trekking determinedly towards the nearby deserted hotels and restaurants, no doubt looking for food.



    Sadly, this is our last day at Shiga Kogen. Would I come back? Hell, yeah! A great variety of terrain to explore (and hopefully next time I’ll persuade my lot to bus it to the far end of the valley ... or we’ll hire a car :whistle:). Pros: great views (when not snowing), fantastic intermediate terrain, good grooming, authentic Japanese resort, no lift queues, pretty much ski-in/ski-out, well-priced lift tickets (RFID, too), and friendly service. Cons: lack of advanced or off-piste terrain (not such an issue for us), limited activities for anyone in the family who doesn’t ski (or wants a rest day), relatively limited restaurants (Ichinose has been a good base - I recommend the Hotel Diamond shabu shabu and buffet, Dairoku, and the Teppa Bar in Chalet Shiga), lack of good coffee, and some slow double lifts. Some lifts also required an uncomfortable hike up to load on, while a few of the cat tracks had flat or uphill spots. I can’t imagine that would be very nice for snowboarders. Overall, however, Shiga Kogen gets an A from me .... Off to Nozawa Onsen tomorrow.
     
  20. willsnow

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    Nice one @Lady Penelope! How did you get back to Ichinose from Sun Valley? Skied all the way back or bus?

    Shame that you couldn't make it to Yokoteyama and Kumanoyu. I suppose that's for next trip (or if you're bored at Nozawa :whistle:)
     
  21. Heinz

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    Nice TR. :thumbs:
    I note from the pic of Sun Valley is that (externally at least) it looks pretty much the same as it did 30 years ago when I was there. This being a good or bad thing depending on point of view, especially compared to another resort which others have commented on in another thread today. It seems like Shiga is a resort I should go back to one day, although I have been pre-occupied in recent years with Tohoku. I also very much enjoyed the skiing at Terakoya, Shibutoga etc back in those days.
     
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  22. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Re Nozawa
    I wouldn't be shocked to see 60cm plus by breakfast
    Don't lose your children
     
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  23. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    We walked across the road after skiing (against the rules :D but we followed a Japanese skier so felt justified!) through the tunnel to get there. Then over to Giant, Nishidateyama, and so on to ski back. Really recommend Restaurant 200 at the top of the Higashidateyama gondola - lovely spot, nice staff, reasonable coffee, and good selection of food (except for vegetarians :whistle:).
     
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  24. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    I’ll tell them that! We have a Chuo taxi booked for 9.30 taking us to Nozawa. Hoping to get some skiing in tomorrow; some of the children were a bit half hearted. This news might cheer up my tired powderhound ;)
     
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    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Areas of the resort did look quite dated, and a few people I have spoken to on gondolas stated that the Prince Hotels (South in particular) were showing their age. Chalet Shiga (where we stayed) is showing it’s age too, but overall was very good value. However, I’ve been very impressed with Shiga as a whole. As long as you’re not expecting brand spanking new 5 star accommodation, you will be fine. I loved Shiga ....
     
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    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'll sacrifice accomodation 'smarts' for empty runs
     
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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    LOL 5 star accommodation is the last thing I want.
     
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    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'll raise my hypocrite hand
    I entered a comp for 4 people
    was airfares, transfers and accomodation (lift tix and lessons) for 7 days for Niseko
    valued at 30K
    The land was 20K
    airfares 8K
     
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    mannyk One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I quite like the charm of dated, as long as there's a real bed. 3 days on the floor is enough for me.
     
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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    LOL
     
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    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Funny. It depends on the quality
    We stayed in nagoya at a place that had a brand of futon that was mint
    was advertised as such
    We all agreed. As good a sleep as we've ever had

    I think futons get tired and old . Especially in snow country
    Bunched up for 9 months at a time
     
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    Double futon or up off the floor for me.
     
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    mannyk One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I agree,I have doubled a few up and its ok. No where to sit is more a problem. Getting up off the floor all the time after days of skiing is hard on this old body..
     
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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Agree, double up when possible. I found rolling over onto your knees first the best approach.
     
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    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    No problems with that! I enter those comps too. If it’s free ....
     
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    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes ... We’ve just had 6 nights on the floor on doubled-up futons (I never realised my hips were so bony!), with another 7 nights on tatami mats to come in Nozawa. Now whose idea was that ...... ?
     
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    Following this report in earnest as my husband and I are venturing to japan for the first time ever in a few weeks and will be hitting up nozawa , Madarao and Shiga so all your pics and insights are perfect for us! Can you tell me the price of that taxi from Shiga to nozawa? We have to go nozawa to Shiga Kogen and are currently looking at us to iiyama and then bus up to Shiga Kogen hotel. It’s cheap but we have to drag all our gear , if the taxi is not too bad it might be our choice as well. Cheers and look forward to your nozawa reports!
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    I think we all do!
    And one day one of us will win one :thumbs:
     
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    We did the bus to Iiyama and changed to another to Shiga Kogen last year. Didn't have to move our stuff far... I left my husband minding the bags in the train/bus station while I went shopping in the adjoining supermarket and stocked up on cheap snacks and drinks (take a spare bag).
    Friends caught the direct bus which was three times the price and when we arrived at the Prince West there they were, waiting patiently in the foyer for the 3pm checkin!
     
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    Great trip report thanks. Seems like it has not changed much. There is some good off piste around shiga and the fact you can ‘tour’ around the resorts is a big plus. Surprising that it’s not more visited by hordes of aussies.
     
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    I for one am grateful that it isn’t! Thanks for the feedback :)
     
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    When are you leaving to head to Nozawa?

    I just read most of Shiga is on wind hold
     
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    Scheduled to leave for Nozawa in about 40 minutes. It looks pretty unwelcoming out there with the wind, I have to say
     
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    Good luck and safe travels
     
  46. Lady Penelope

    Lady Penelope One of some lot ... Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks @Donzah. In the Tardis/taxi now!



     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    ^brutal winter weather for driving!
     
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    The windscreen wipers are losing the battle against the snow ... our driver has been peering through a narrow strip on the windscreen... totemo muzokashi desu!!

     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Eek.
    Lucky you have a local experienced driver who knows the roads.

    I’ve got a hire car from the airport, and back to the airport, for a month. Let’s hope Ullr-san dumps that kind of snow on the mountain not on the road when I’m driving after a two leg overnight journey in economy.
     
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    in conditions like this do not have your windscreen wipers running at high speed. Counterintuitive, I know, but if you have them on slow it will give then snow landing on the windscreen a chance to warm up and melt off. Running them on high speed will only freeze them up. I know....I leant the hard way in a snow storm last year.
     
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