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Discussion in 'Lake Mountain' started by Ubiquitous Steve, May 30, 2019.
Can only hope they bring back the static cams for 2020. The 360 is but a gimmick.
Sounds like you are better off to stay at Mt Stirling and stop banging on about all the other resort and how you think you know best
I have been a loyal supporter of LM.I learned to XC ski there. This season there has been a management change up there . There is now some room for improvement whereas in 2018 most things were just fine. In 2018 there were better arrangements with the web cams, resort website, trail reports, access to the resort in heavy snow, heavy machine grooming etc. We XC skiers want LM to be as good as it can be and for it to succeed. Incidentally in my signature below my posts I have a disclaimer. You my friend should read it .
Dude,LM should give you a 2020 season pass for free.You have been up there on planks more times this year than anyone has and you have reported back promptly in ways that are more useful to skiers on this forum than the LM resort website is.
If LM gets 10cms of Spring snow on Tuesday 8/10/19 it could almost be worth taking the old op shop rock hoppers for one last slide up there for 2019 early on Wed. 9/10/19.
I am watching the automated modelling. The possibility of another rock hopper XC ski day in Spring at Lake Mtn. or Baw Baw on Friday next week is not out of the question.
Both locations are looking at possibly 10cms plus of snow on Thursday 17/10/19 and that will be followed by a below zero temperatures night and a cold morning after .
I am not putting my XC ski kit away in the cellar just yet !!
The modelling still looks promising with 17 cms predicted to fall at LM on Thursday October 17th. The four day rule for predictions will take effect on early Monday. We watch and wait grass hopper. The Baw Baw snow cameras offer a vastly superior indication of any out of season snow falls with picnic tables in the village area at BB giving a good idea of the depth of snow cover at approximately 1500 M. ASL .The Car park and the rooves of structures at LM are less conclusive in this regard.
LM have said the static cams will be back next winter.
An alternative but quite correct spelling of 'roofs'. ie: the plural of roof.
Not in my Oxford.
Interesting - it was in there as recently as 2005: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/roof
Loaves, hooves, rooves, the regular usage of OOF and OAF words in the plural form is OOVES. It is not an ancient , obsolete defunct and archaic construction.
The modelling now shows less snow for Thursday 17/10/19 at Baw Baw and at LM with a much warmer day immediately after it :-0 . It could prove to be too marginal for one last hurrah.
LM is still predicted to get 9 cm of snow on Thursday but a 10 degree C. day on Friday.
sounds like, potentially, half a day of rock-hopping
Yes, with an 8 am start on the hill if the Rock Hopper trip goes ahead at all.
The snow fall on Thursday at LM has been downgraded to 4 cm. I think we must say Sayonara & Al Vidaa to XC skiing this year in VIC.See you on the Hill on planks in 2020 Insh`Allah.
I will be up at Keppel's hut once the 4 x 4 road is open. I may even give the Long Heath track a bit of a haircut with a chainsaw.
Ah Mr Tee, I fear you are in danger of contracting the dreaded mrteeus noskius syndrome.
It is not life threatening but takes about 9 or 10 months to get over.
When I had fully functional knees one of the saddest sights to my eyes was the dwindling dirty snow at the end of the season
Team EB has (somewhat) given up looking at LM weather forecast. We are putting on the base wax for storage now. I must say that it has been a good season introducing our little one to the snow and skiing.
Nice meeting some of you and have a great training sesh off season.
See you all next year insya Allah.
The modelling is predicting 14 cms of snow on Friday and another cm the next day with low temperatures. I can see a Saturday rock hopper excursion on XC skis coming up!!
You should go now. It is a rock hopper's dream. Be quick because it could be gone by lunch.
Unbelievers can sneer all they like but I have skied three times on quite good snow outside of the period of declared resort operations at both LM and at BB this year.
Man 14cm with no base...........don't fall you might be extracting lumps of snowgum from your buttockial material!
@chriscross and I skied on less than that in June 2019 at LM. Yes falling over was not good. Skiing on the Panorama trail was not possible because of safety considerations with many hazards poking through the wafer thin snow cover.
If LM had snow cameras the way that Baw Baw does then that would be a 200 % improvement. The skiing at BB yesterday was better than some days I had at bigger , higher elevated locations in July 2019 such as Mt. Stirling and Falls Creek. It was AMAZING esp. for November.The clincher for deciding whether to drive up there yesterday was looking at the snow camera of the village at BB as seen the day before.
That convinced me. You can see the depth of the snow on the picnic tables in front of the buildings. Now @teckel said that LM was quite skiable yesterday but I went the extra distance to Baw Baw and was rewarded . During the declared ski season the camera at Baw Baw offers more compelling evidence in terms of whether to go up there or not. This must help Baw Baw attract paying visitors in the white season.
Did anyone ski on Sat. 9/11/19 at LM ? It would have been quite good I would have imagined.
Don't know. But I hired out stuff to snow players on Sunday
That is where your shop comes in handy , esp. for out of season snow activities.
There was more snow on Saturday than June/July
I was Nordic skiing at Mt. Baw Baw on Sat. and the XC ski conditions were better than two fee paying ski days I recall in July 2019 which I recall which were very average to ski on and had boiler plate bullet proof rock hard ice at Falls Ck. and at Mt. Stirling.
LM looks white this morning but does not have a rock hopper skiable cover. BB looks the goods this morning.BB looks skiable!
Will LM be getting snow cameras just like the ones at Mt. Baw Baw for the 2020 white season?
They told me they'd have static cams for this coming season. Let's hope they do.
What about the LM website for 2020?. If Mt. Stirling can have a detailed snow report with conditions for each ski trail then so can LM.
That might take work
Does that mean the Numero Uno at LM sees no point in doing such a useful thing since the main market LM is aiming at is the snow ball thrower squad?. Can we as snow sport /XC ski stakeholders meet the relevant people before the season starts and make a case in person for such improvements?
Families with toboggans spend more money than xc skiers. Stirling is a sister resort of Buller, which makes big $$$ from alpine skiers and subsidises facilities across the valley.
I see your point. We Nordic skiers are not gold visa card users. So as a result we are not the priority for planning and spending when it comes to these resorts' budgets .
However we are rusted on return visitors. Not all snowball throwers and toboggan riders are going to visit LM 4 -5 times in a season. Some of us XC skiers are quite ready to do so if conditions are good. Being able to ascertain the conditions helps.
The way Baw Baw is set up at present is that they have better cameras and Mt. Stirling has better individual XC ski trail reports.
Alpine Industry Conference.
The Alpine Resorts Co-ordinating Council (ARCC) "will be hosting an industry conference at The Vibe in Marysville over Thursday 7 and Friday 8 May 2020 for all those who have a keen interest in the alpine industry. The theme for the conference is ‘Exploring Mountain Tourism’.
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What’s happening behind the locked gates?Suppose we can speculate about trail conditions and road access.Black Spur road conditions etc etc.Team Bears might try the snow cams?Let us dream of cold powder skiing .....well we can at least dream!
Lake Mountain Forecast
View the current warnings for Victoria
Forecast issued at 5:40 am EST on Friday 1 May 2020.
Forecast for the rest of Friday
Blizzards at times. Becoming windy.
Chance of any rain: 100%
North Central area
Cloudy. Very high (90%) chance of showers, with gusty winds and possible small hail. Snow level around 900 metres, rising to 1100 metres by evening. Rain, showers and snow heavy at times in the east in the late morning and afternoon. Winds westerly 25 to 40 km/h. Daytime maximum temperatures between 6 and 10.
Sun protection not recommended, UV Index predicted to reach 2 [Low]
7 day Town Forecasts
Precis Icon Location Min Max
Seymour – 10
Saturday 2 May
Snow showers. Windy.
Possible rainfall: 6 to 20 mm
Chance of any rain: 95%
North Central area
Cloudy. High (80%) chance of showers in the east, medium (50%) chance elsewhere. Snow falling above 1200 metres. Winds westerly 25 to 40 km/h turning southwesterly during the morning. Overnight temperatures falling to between 4 and 7 with daytime temperatures reaching between 8 and 12.
Sun protection recommended from 11:10 am to 1:00 pm, UV Index predicted to reach 3 [Moderate]
It will be Very windy up there . Taking a chainsaw in the boot anywhere in VIC. today is not optional.
Cannot see a date stamp on this cam.But I presume it’s real time and provides an accurate picture!
Cross reference to Stirling......
I have been looking at that too .It is covering the ground but it is not very deep. Strictly OP shop rock hopper stuff at present. I shall revisit later today. One could surmise that higher up near Triangle Junction there would be better cover as the cold front progresses. LM should get a ski cam . set up there but we know they never bleeding well will do it.TBJ at Mt. Stirling ( 1250 M. ASL ) looks like it is 30 cm deep at present . Fecking amazing !
It won't last long at this time of year - a few days perhaps.
Bookmark https://lakemountainresort.panomax.com/# if you want 10 min x 10 min updates
Maybe a week or two on the higher south facing areas of Hotham, Bogong FTop & Nelse & co. ?
May sun is cruel on north facing!