Lessons at Perisher or Blue Cow

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  1. Reg

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    Where would people recommend getting lessons, Perisher or Blue Cow?
     
  2. cold wombat

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    What is more convenient for you? Either will work fine, getting away from an over crowded front valley can be a bonus.
     
  3. Astro66

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    You may not get a choice.
     
  4. IAB

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    Blue Cow
     
  5. Marty_McSly

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    What standard of learner, @Reg?
     
  6. skichanger

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    Blue Cow. Avoid front valley at every opportunity.
     
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    Depends upon your ability and when you want lessons. Personally I prefer Blue Cow (usually open from late June): varied terrain, quick progression to a plethora of blue and harder blue/black runs, and somewhat cheaper than Front Valley! Smiggins is also an option for beginners to intermediates: same price as Blue Cow.
     
  8. Marty_McSly

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    Hence my question to the OP regarding the learners' levels.

    Lessons at Perisher don't just mean FV. In Perisher Max 6 lessons I've been to Happy, Pretty and Pleasant Vallies, the top of the Quad, over the link to Smiggins, up & down Interceptor, to the Mt P Triple and Sun Valley T for runs down Towers and Vista, and one howling wind-hold day, to Eyre via Centre Valley and Leichhardt and Sun Valley T's.

    The one year I booked lessons at Blue Cow, it could have been 2013, in early August the thin cover was melting, the links to & from Guthega were closed, Side Saddle had a rocky, narrow strip of 'no fall' terrain about 2 metres wide, halfway down, and Excellerator was uprated to black in the ski school master list. The day they closed Pleasant Valley, I traded in the remaining days' lessons and paid extra to go back to Perisher for the remaining days.

    I realise that my experience is untypical, but I just wanted to flag up the potential for Blue Cow to be disappointing.
     
  9. Mils

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    blue cow is a lot better to learn at the perisher
     
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    Is the tube free from Perisher to Blue Cow
     
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    Yes, with a valid ticket.
     
  12. Marty_McSly

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    If they are absolute beginners, then Smiggins is better than both. But as the OP hasn't clarified the learners' levels, a definitive answer is difficult.

    How much prior experience @Reg?
     
  13. Mils

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    its free all the time, no turnstile checking at all.
     
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    They may not check, but it has always been free with a valid mountain pass.
     
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  15. Mick_Molloy_Au

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    +1 for blue cow as the easy rider trail is perfect for the afternoon of day 1 (if they are a fast learner) or day 2.
     
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    Is it just me or have the private lessons jumped up in price this season ?

    Recall a private 2hr in 2016 at blue cow around $300. 2018 is $565 for 3 hrs.

    Looking at the "max6" for the daughter. Wondering if that is the better option instead of the general group lessons. 2hrs is about her limit.

    Any advice appreciated.
     
  17. Marty_McSly

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    Vail is as Vail does. :whistle:

    Heading towards US Vail prices. :(
     
  18. Telemark Phat

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    You can buy a 2hour afternoon private at Blue Cow the day before online or that day if you rock up to the ski school. From memory BC and Smiggins are ~$200 and Perisher is ~$300.

    For the group lessons at Blue Cow and Smiggins there will be as many people in the lesson as show up. I'd spend the $20 difference and buy a max 6. There are too many variables to say whether or not she'll learn more, but the smaller class sizes are much more enjoyable.

    Disclaimer: a portion of my work at Perisher is Max 6 lessons.
     
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  19. Arsas

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    I did a post about BC and Smiggin's private lesson speical the other day. They had 2hr afternoon lessons for $188 as long
    as you booked 6 days or less in advance. Not sure if still available.

    https://www.ski.com.au/xf/threads/2-hour-afternoon-private-lessons-smiggs-or-bc-188.81804/
     
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    Yeah you can book privates right up to end of September. The $188 is not coming up anymore.
    Just had a look and they are not taking Kids group lessons online at Perisher.
     
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    I knew you could book the 3 hour private as far ahead as you liked, I just thought you could only book the 2 hour afternoon private a day ahead, not 6 days.

    Kids lessons at Perisher are probably booked out for the rest of the school holidays already.
     
  23. Arsas

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    It was an honest special because from what the lady who took my booking said ,there were plenty of private instructors at BC and Smiggs. I booked the afternoon specials last year in the July holidays and it was about $280, so $188 is a proper special.
    I did a check into the early September and still no kids group lessons at Perisher.
     
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    I've no idea how heavily they're booked outside of school holidays. Probably worth a call or email.
     
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    My mogul skier has begun instructing. Seems to be enjoying it.

    Relevance to this thread is that he did a private school group lesson with 6 kids. The day before they had 12 kids but that day they had 13 so needed 2 instructors. So we learnt that max class size is 12.

    They then did night skiing and got some instructors to supervise. He spent the evening skiing front valley, stopping occasionally to pick people up, retrieve them from where they should not be etc. Nice gig.
     
  26. despot721

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    Great info TP thx, much appreciated. :thumbs:
    Booked the max6 for both of us.
    Ski for me, board for her. 11am Sat 14 July Perisher. Its the best value for money for us at this stage. We shared a private lesson 2016 but both on skis then.

    On a side note for epic pass holders. I had a hell of a time trying to book the above lessons and couldn't seem to apply the discount. After a long phone call with perisher guest service's (seriously, very helpful) you only get an epic discount off the private lessons. Any other lessons, you just get the same online discount as everyone else if you book early.
     
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    How much does one have to tip?

    I'm thinking about some lessons, when I have my few days by myself a week into August, to try learning to turn so am trying to work out what to do about group, max6, private, how many, where etc.
     
  28. skichanger

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    um I think my mogul skier would be a bit shocked and embarrassed if someone tipped him. It really is not part of our culture.
     
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    I found group lessons worked well up to middling intermediate level - at the point of just starting to look for blue runs. My last batch of Max 6 lessons at Perisher were a mixed bag, a couple of days too easy, one day really hard, one day the instructor lost half the class, one day just right. I'd suggest private lessons at and above this level.

    If a Finnish instructor named Paavo is back at Perisher this year, I hope to have a couple of private lessons with him. He did great things with my son in group lessons a couple of years ago, and @Normo seems to think highly of him too.
     
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    Paavo is back and based at Smiggins.
     
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    Thanks.
     
  32. oldgeezer

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    That will work out well as I will have the car that has the NatPark pass on it and so was tending to think Smiggins on how easy it is to drive up and park right by the snow, as well as being an ideal learning spot. I had been wondering about just a level 4 group lesson there, figuring they can almost be a private but with the randomness mentioned by @Marty_McSly I shall see about Paavo. I was lucky once with a group lesson at Thredbo having a really good bloke from Slovenia named Pieter (IIRC, blond) but other times meh. Presumably it is necessary to call ski school if one wants a specific instructor, and do it soon.
     
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    If you want to request someone specific book earlier rather than later. I've had quite a few disappointed guests this year ago left it too late to book me for their lesson. Instructors also like requests because they get a bonus for a request lesson.
     
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    Tipping is unusual in Australia and certainly not expected.
     
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    Twas a bit tongue in cheek, about flow on effects from Vail, but thx for clarifying anyway now I will look at a private,or two, and for the advice about early booking.
     
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