News Lindsey Vonn vs The Men

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  1. tele-whippet

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    The men, she just wants to beat a few of them. o_O
    Probably easier to just jump them in a dark alley.
     
  3. dawooduck

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    So she beats a few that cannot beat the few ..... stunts are stunts
     
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    Anna Sorenstam and Michelle Wie say hi.
     
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    Once she's one as much as Amélie Reymond she can race with the men.
     
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    LL would certainly be the place for her to have a go, she knows the track so well and skis it so well. The men usually start higher, but I can't see that bothering her. The case is strongest for her there, it's the one course where both genders race, so they can't claim safety issues with an unfamiliar course. But FIS is so monolithic and conservative, the comment from Atle gives an indication of the resistance she'll meet: if we let the women race with the men then we have to let the men race the women too. Logic? Not here.
     
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    As a one off stunt it’s fine but if you want to have men’s and women’s events then that’s what they need to be
     
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    That's what they're not getting their heads around, it's just a one off. No need for lengthy committee discussions and regulation changes. At the very least they could let her be a forerunner for the mens WC, although I'm guessing she would consider that second best. Forerunner times are not published but they are certainly recorded, she'd see where she positioned relative to the men.
     
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    Comparong LL times for 15/16 and the answer is that she would be lucky to make top 50, especially given the longer mens course. Vonn's time was 1:50.43, Svindal won with 1:47.29. 48th in the Men's was Casse with 1:50.51. Sure this pretty rough as there may have been a big difference in conditions but it gives a crude idea.
     
  10. Heinz

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    Also depends on what start number she would get. No seeding so normally it would be pretty low. Easiest option would probably be as Sly suggested and she got a forerunner spot (with good conditions) and unofficial time.
     
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    Maybe just before Hans Knauss does his camera run?

     
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    That vid reminds me of a tidbit I heard recently. TV viewership for mens DH at LL is 140-150 million; ie, more than the superbowl. Dinner time saturday night in central europe, first DH of the season and not much else on at that time of year. Now I get why CBC spends so much money shooting it, they must make some good cash from the rights.
     
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    as long as the weather doesn't intervene as it has at times in recent years.
    Also why we are starting to see more night time city events and the night slalom in Schladming - huge TV audience.
     
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    Except for sponsor dollars I fail to see the upside for Vonn. She has had an awesome career, risks injury and the while thing could fall very flat.
     
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    She is very competitive, very,
     
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    Despite not understanding a word, that was quite entertaining.
     
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    He does them for every DH,SG race for Austrian TV. I try and tune in early to catch it.

    I think you can get an idea of what is going on from his tone even if you don't understand what he is saying.

    Here is his run on the Streif at Kitzbühel this year.
     
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    Coming late to the tread.

    Are you talking about

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    or

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    ???

    :D
     
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    A very quick summary... quite a few waves in the upper section, first jump circa 30m, faster upper section this year, next jump 35m, now a flat section, another jump 40m, quick change of direction in the fallaway, into the shade transistion, now fastest part of course around 130kmh, need to carry speed here for lower section, deep tuck, good gliding on flat skis (pan back). A very enjoyable course, very well prepared, fast up top and an autobahn to the bottom
     
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    The risks are only slightly greater than racing the same course at the womens event a week later. She just crushes the LL track, pretty much owns it if she's healthy. Toughest course on the womens DH circuit whilst being about middle of the road for the men. The mens start gives them about 100 m more vert but doesn't really add any additional features, just sends them a bit faster into Sunset Flats, Lone Pine and the drop into Tickety Chute. The men's course is prepared extremely hard, but the women are used to racing that same track the following week. I don't think she'll have too many issues with the course aspects.

    But I too don't really see the up side in this for her other than more publicity. She's already got the record for most wins by a female ski racer, and she'll pass Stenmark's record too if she can avoid injury. I guess it's her endlessly competitive nature.
     
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    Amelie Reymond has won a lot more races than Vonn
     
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    Hopefully it will be done in the same fashion as phelps v shark
     
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    Chalk and cheese.
     
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    Yep, no one in skiing has won as much as Amelie
     
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    I reckon it's amazing the way he carries that bloody camera!!!!
     
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    Its a nudie run for Playboy, Hef left a little something in the will.
     
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    I would love a VR version!!
     
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    Except those "races" have judges. Hippy dippy like freestyle, does not count.

    PS, I would use one of those smiley face thingoes to indicate joke, but I've declined to use them post whoring gadgets all these years and I ain't gonna start now.
     
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