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It's front of mind for me now as I need to get a shop to mount Lynx on those Annums.

You'll be using HDPE?
Yes. The 7TMs used a high density grey plastic shim from 7TM that was made to fit the K2 inserts with the binding screwed directly into the plastic. LDPE would make descent a bit too interesting when a binding loses interest in staying attached to the ski :emoji_astonished:. My right ankle has a block of HDPE in between the metal parts set into the tibia and on top of the talus bone. It is meant to last a while before getting worn away. Getting some from a local bonafide plastics supplier would be a better bet than chancing a chopping board from Woolies. Some offcuts of high quality material would do the job.
 
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The new auto engagement feature might end up removing the under foot plate. Possibly.
Still needed to push the claw back out of the way for tour mode.
In a thread I've been following, a guy in the USA has come up with an alternative widget to the red stick which removes the need for the stick and the under foot plate. It also means one does not need to step out of the binding to switch to tour mode.
https://www.backcountrytalk.com/for...18-idea-for-meidjo-tour-mode/page2#post103030
 

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Can anyone with this binding help me answer the following two questions as looking at the potential to use the Meidjo heel unit with an alternative toe binding?
1. What height is the boot off the ski when sitting on the heel plate when its flat?
2. How well does this heel unit work?
Trying to find a heel unit that is super easy to engage and stays in the right mode unless deliberately moved up or down. Aim is to use it simply with a front tech unit (i.e. Dynafit Speed Turn toes or ATK Tromeo toes) so looking to find a decent heel unit (most likely 'tele' oriented) that allows an AT boot to sit flat in standard touring mode.
Cheers
 

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Can anyone with this binding help me answer the following two questions as looking at the potential to use the Meidjo heel unit with an alternative toe binding?
1. What height is the boot off the ski when sitting on the heel plate when its flat?
2. How well does this heel unit work?
Trying to find a heel unit that is super easy to engage and stays in the right mode unless deliberately moved up or down. Aim is to use it simply with a front tech unit (i.e. Dynafit Speed Turn toes or ATK Tromeo toes) so looking to find a decent heel unit (most likely 'tele' oriented) that allows an AT boot to sit flat in standard touring mode.
Cheers
My understanding of the Meidjo heel is that it has a relatively low release value and that it is meant to be used in conjunction with the binding in tele mode so the overall release is the footplate release value plus the fixed value release of the Meidjo heel. Correct me if I'm wrong please those who have more experience of this binding. Mine are still in their box in the garage. I haven't bought the heels.
 

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In the video it looks like he has removed the red stick altogether. Very interesting.
A concern I have is that the wee widget could work its way around the rod while skiing downhill in tele mode and cause an unplanned switch into tour mode which could cause a dangerous pre-release. Thoughts?
 
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Thanks Goski. It’s actually info about the standard tele ‘heel kit’ that I am chasing rather than the ‘alpine heel’. Cheers
 

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Can anyone with this binding help me answer the following two questions as looking at the potential to use the Meidjo heel unit with an alternative toe binding?
1. What height is the boot off the ski when sitting on the heel plate when its flat?
2. How well does this heel unit work?
Trying to find a heel unit that is super easy to engage and stays in the right mode unless deliberately moved up or down. Aim is to use it simply with a front tech unit (i.e. Dynafit Speed Turn toes or ATK Tromeo toes) so looking to find a decent heel unit (most likely 'tele' oriented) that allows an AT boot to sit flat in standard touring mode.
Cheers
Umm, sounds like you are simply building a Meidjo.

Just buy / use a Meidjo.
 
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Currently the binding works, don’t dick around with it.
Yeah for just a couple of holes to mount the tour plate I'll be happy to try it as designed initially.
I'll be using the Meidjos predominantly for downhill resort (and hopefully some randonee style Japanese BC) and keeping my Excursions and Rossignol 110s for a lighter XC touring rig in Oz so stepping out to swap Tele to Tour on the Meidjo's isn't going to be a big deal.
If the widget proves to be a reliable winner in the field without any issues then I may have renewed interest. The USA guys can be the testers.
 
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If you really want you can swap to tour mode with skis on.

But most folks take their skis off to put skins on so not a biggy to flick it to tour mode at the same time.
 

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M Equipment sell every part as a spare, you buy all the parts as spares and build a binding if you like.
If you really want you can swap to tour mode with skis on.

But most folks take their skis off to put skins on so not a biggy to flick it to tour mode at the same time.
Simple transition is more of a thing if using them with pattern-base skis on our rolling grounds areas which I won't be doing.
Aaargh, I do hope I get to try the M's this year but the exit end of the COVID tunnel keeps moving further into the distance for the Vics.
 
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Extremely unlikely, the hole set has evolved from folks pulling them off their skis.

It is likely that 2 holes will disappear under the foot.

And you really only need 2 of the heel piece holes.
Good point. I'll just do 2/3 holes on the heels. No pullout risk on the heel piece.
 
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Yeah for just a couple of holes to mount the tour plate I'll be happy to try it as designed initially.
I'll be using the Meidjos predominantly for downhill resort (and hopefully some randonee style Japanese BC) and keeping my Excursions and Rossignol 110s for a lighter XC touring rig in Oz so stepping out to swap Tele to Tour on the Meidjo's isn't going to be a big deal.
If the widget proves to be a reliable winner in the field without any issues then I may have renewed interest. The USA guys can be the testers.
Resort plus some touring just buy outlaws. I have two pairs of Meijdo's and soon to be 3 pairs with the release of 3.0.
 

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Resort plus some touring just buy outlaws. I have two pairs of Meijdo's and soon to be 3 pairs with the release of 3.0.
I want the independent release function of the Meidjo over the 22 Designs offerings, as well made as they are. I would ike to avoid more life-changing injuries. V3 looks like it has a stronger single toe spring over V2.1 s twin toe spring pair otherwise it look the same. Same step-in as the later V2.1s.
 

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For when and if I get to stay in Illawong hut again I'll be taking the Medijos and skins to enjoy the longer ups and longer downs but for Stirling and Gwinear days the 75mm Excursions with a pattern base will do. My ISO dream is getting to Asahidake and similar areas for sublime powdery descents on Meidjos after steady meditative climbs.
 
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I want the independent release function of the Meidjo over the 22 Designs offerings, as well made as they are. I would ike to avoid more life-changing injuries. V3 looks like it has a stronger single toe spring over V2.1 s twin toe spring pair otherwise it look the same. Same step-in as the later V2.1s.
I won’t fuss about the toe pieces, the Ms are good. But that said they all rely on very precise parts to work well and across the brands you’ll find brumby toe pieces.
 

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I won’t fuss about the toe pieces, the Ms are good. But that said they all rely on very precise parts to work well and across the brands you’ll find brumby toe pieces.
Thanks. V2.0 and V2.1 toe-pieces seem to have been fine and two pairs of toe-piece springs have worked for Dynafit for a long time. The improvement to the claw for step-in has been the significant change this year. Snow in Vic today! max of only 7-10 deg across Melbourne! Gardening in the sun with my son was very comfortable with no breeze.
 
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V3 released on My Equipment's Facebook page today.

Looks like it is what was previews earlier this year. Has the expected new toe-piece with one pair it toe jaw springs per toe-piece instead of two, as expected. Claims 40% more power. Other than that, seems to be the same as the V2.1s that I'll get around to mounting into skis one day soon. Got them delivered days before Melbourne's stage 3 lockdown in July finished my skiing before it began this year. Looking forward to trying them in X months.
Website link is
https://the-m-equipment.com/en/prod...1ttuTSlR6zrTPe4dq-UXSIzANPgGZo8KPOAx8umD8H0RE
 
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I just purchased a pair of Meidjo 3.0. Are there any fragile parts to this binding that one world recommend carrying spares for when in the backcountry?
 
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Id take a red peg if you have been using them a while. Thats the only thing thats gone / worn on mine (2.0s, 2.1s). Im not a particularly hard skier however
 

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Dunno.
Pierre and I stopped talking.
Be better in metal I reckon

Is it almost time to try a Lynx?

I can’t stand gear that’s unreliable - especially when heading into remote places. Just how many spares and tools (& weight?) should one take on a short day trip

FWIW: I’m hoping to try my new Voile UltraVector BC and 22D Axl set up this winter. The latter are reputedly bomber - I hope to report the same after my late July Falls jaunt.

Good luck for a timely resolution!
 

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I imagine your three sets have been 2.1s, do you suspect the 3.0 will have the same issues or have they strengthened some of the components?

I’ve been wondering this prior to upgrading my 2.1s. But haven’t come across any real info one way or the other.
 

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Took new Meidjo 3.0s out for spin today (see BC thread for pics).

The 3.0 get lots of tidy ups from the 2.0 & 2.1, upgraded plastic for a lot of elements (stronger, lighter, apparently greener), a completely new tech toe and flat or no cocked step in.

The new tech works well, feel smooth and rigid.

The step in works well and is remarkably simple.

Internal changes are claimed to make it more powerful, I'm not sure about this but it's operation is a little smoother than previous and more rigid edge to edge.

It's claimed to be slightly lighter than previous but I forgot to weigh it prior to fixing it to the skis. I'll try and remember to weigh it when I pull them off to pack the skis away for the journey home.

Pretty happy I coughed up $ and upgraded, can recommend.
 

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Took new Meidjo 3.0s out for spin today (see BC thread for pics).

The 3.0 get lots of tidy ups from the 2.0 & 2.1, upgraded plastic for a lot of elements (stronger, lighter, apparently greener), a completely new tech toe and flat or no cocked step in.

The new tech works well, feel smooth and rigid.

The step in works well and is remarkably simple.

Internal changes are claimed to make it more powerful, I'm not sure about this but it's operation is a little smoother than previous and more rigid edge to edge.

It's claimed to be slightly lighter than previous but I forgot to weigh it prior to fixing it to the skis. I'll try and remember to weigh it when I pull them off to pack the skis away for the journey home.

Pretty happy I coughed up $ and upgraded, can recommend.

Damned pretty skis :thumbs:
 
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Took new Meidjo 3.0s out for spin today (see BC thread for pics).

The 3.0 get lots of tidy ups from the 2.0 & 2.1, upgraded plastic for a lot of elements (stronger, lighter, apparently greener), a completely new tech toe and flat or no cocked step in.

The new tech works well, feel smooth and rigid.

The step in works well and is remarkably simple.

Internal changes are claimed to make it more powerful, I'm not sure about this but it's operation is a little smoother than previous and more rigid edge to edge.

It's claimed to be slightly lighter than previous but I forgot to weigh it prior to fixing it to the skis. I'll try and remember to weigh it when I pull them off to pack the skis away for the journey home.

Pretty happy I coughed up $ and upgraded, can recommend.
Nice rig. But I suppose you get told that all the time. :D :thumbs:
 

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NVS. Still not allowed to go skiing. Which particular DPS skis are the meidjo mk 3 bindings mounted on, please?
P.S. Where are pics and TR? Cannot find.
 

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NVS. Still not allowed to go skiing. Which particular DPS skis are the meidjo mk 3 bindings mounted on, please?
P.S. Where are pics and TR? Cannot find.

The M3s are on Powdersworks Wailer 100s.

Pics are in BC chatter.
 
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Well there you go, I’ve learnt a couple of things this arvo, I never looked up much about the skis, just went a skied them. They are bloody good, tho their older brothers possibly have a slightly wider range of conditions in firmer snow conditions. Not that I’ve skied the brothers for over 2 years. Maybe I’ll take em for a run over the next few days?
 
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