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Meidjo NTN

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by lennysan, Aug 9, 2015.

  1. Boodwah

    Boodwah One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Have drilled in 4 30mm screws and epoxy. Hope it holds...
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    Pity you can't just print one off in the 3D printer if the plastic was suitable .
     
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    Boodwah wins the MacGyver Award this week.:)
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  4. jor

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  5. jor

    jor First Runs

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    I went on the pre order for the meidjo binding last year. They finally arrived about xmas. I mounted them with inserts onto G3 zenoxides to take to Japan in early Jan. Had 5 days on them before tearing my ACL (not their fault). Sent them back on the recall (first 100 were made "poorly". They replaced some of the parts.

    Just had 16 days at Falls on them, one of those days was on touring skis (is swapped them over-love the quiver killer insert concept) and a morning of skinning up as well.

    I put the second spring into the tube for Falls Creek-wish I had done that for Japan-mostly did P turns. The stronger activeness makes them more like the Rottefella Free Ride to ski. Having skied badly on duckbill non active bindings for years ( including my beloved Skyhoys), active bindings have been a godsend to my enjoyment of tele skiing. "better skiing thru technology" is so true for me.

    negative thoughts
    The stepin of the m equipment bindings is fiddly and easily messed up if the snow is covering those little bits of the binding or your eye sight is "compromised" with age. The ski crampon attachments have not been manufactured as yet nor has the brakes. The latter would be very handy to hold the ski in place when stepping in.

    I am spoilt-started using stepin bindings in 2002, ie Skyhoys and then the Rottefella NTNs so its a pain to have to use a safety strap and BEND OVER. I do hope Pierre gets his act together soon.

    Overall, I love these flimsy little bindings that are a well thought out mix of plastic and metal. Mine are beta for sure #27.
    Anyone want to buy some rottefella NYN Free rides?
     
  6. Telemark Phat

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    A big part of why I prefer Freerides for the resort.
     
  7. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm interested.
     
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  8. Boodwah

    Boodwah One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Telemark-Pyrenees express shipping (X2) broken bits.
     
  9. jor

    jor First Runs

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    they are advertised on gumtree if you want to see photos
     
  10. jor

    jor First Runs

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    How much for the broken bits are TP charging? How did you break them? I am assuming you were not in the pins at the time but had the NTN rear pf the sole attached????
     
  11. Boodwah

    Boodwah One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not charging anything.
    For the retrofits they express couriered them free of charge.
    I was just skiing, not too aggressively - with Meidjo, you're always in the pins: in fact once I'd busted the spring-box, I just skied in the pins for the rest of the day.
     
  12. jor

    jor First Runs

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    Wow! Resort skiing? ?? I noticed from the photo you had both sets of springs onboard (as i do). You said it was your fault. What did you mean? Were your meidjos within the first 100 made ? What boots were you wearing?
    I am overly nosey but i do own a pair and want to know how not to break them ha ha!
     
  13. Boodwah

    Boodwah One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'd be surprised if they were 1st 100. Didn't say it was my fault anywhere - I think that this (my) incarnation of the Meidjo just needs strengthening. Boots are Scarpa FX Pro. I'd triple spring them if that was an option.
    This was only my 7th day on teles ever, so mostly resort at this stage although had a day touring on Stirling and did some runs on Machinery Saturday before they broke on Sunday. I took it up partly bc something to do whilst teaching the kids to ski inbounds, but now i'm hooked! I can't compare the Meidjos to anything else, but I think they're a really elegant design and they'll be the ducks nuts once they're a little more robust. i probably won't end up skiing on much else.
     
  14. jor

    jor First Runs

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    Sorry my misreading about "fault".
    Just read this about version 2
    http://www.earnyourturns.com/30778/upgrade-details-to-meidjo-v-2/
    but there is no mention on Telemark Pyrenees nor m equipment about version 2.
    It is obvious that the spring box needs beefing up.
    I have had 15 or 16 days (Japanese powder and Falls Creek groomed) on the Meidjos and I wonder how much longer they will last.
    Show us photos of the replacement bits from France if you will. cheers
     
  15. Boodwah

    Boodwah One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    So after Telemark Pyrenees instantly ships me free replacement parts, I get several emails from Pierre Mouyard the inventor. Basically wanting to see the damage so he can improve on his product - assures me that modifications have recently been made and that I won't experience any more probs with the replacements being shipped. Pretty good service i reckon.
    As soon as I can afford it, I'll be mounting another pair of these on some Rossi BC 125s pattern based that are currently sitting in the garage mounted w Dynafit.
     
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  16. Untele-whippet

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    Sounds like great customer service from Pierre and TP.
    Here's hoping for no more probs and goodly fun skiing.
     
  17. Belongil

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    Thats pretty awesome service, makes me feel better about mine. I just have the single springs and pretty stiff (i think)crispi boots and they are plenty active enough for me. A joy to tour in and the only issue I have had is a release when I doubled up on some largish icy moguls- it wasnt pretty, however I think if i really really wanted to stay in - like some crevasse ridden glacier in NZ (next month!) I will just lock them just in case.... The release preload seems to be unscrew to add pressure..a bit counter intuitive but hey.. Is that your understanding Boodwah?
     
  18. mr

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    to convert a toes piece over for tts or these meidjos with dynafit i need an ntn tele boot is that right? i cant convert 75mm can i. do i need a boot made for the inserts? cheers. im trying to work out if my boot is the limit to upgrade
     
  19. mr

    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    boodwah must be the first telemarker in his first 7 days to bust the **** out of a binding
     
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  20. Untele-whippet

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    You need a NTN boot with tech inserts.
    75 mm boot = no no.
     
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  21. Telemark Phat

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    I killed my Pit Bulls on the first day a long time ago.
     
  22. mr

    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    ok....thanks tw. that means 'next year' then cause there aint no boots i can try
     
  23. Boodwah

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    Need the duck butt and pin-tech holes. You're welcome to try mine, I'm a 29 mondo
     
  24. dossa5

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    Boodwah perhaps we can meet for a few turns at Hotham.
    No weekends please.
     
  25. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    @Boodwah I have also been a low fan, and have broken bindings. The problem is liking really active stiff binding action, in combination with going low. IMO it puts extra strain on the binding. I broke a few Hammerheads.

    I wonder how long the duckbutt lasts. Wish Scarpa did the replaceable one like the now defunct Garmont. I am still loving my Freerides, but they suck for touring. Thinking about a wide PB with maybe these meeheehaas!
     
  26. Boodwah

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    @telecrag no doubt about extra strain on whole rig when you're down very low - but it's just such an awesome feeling! Having exchanged a few emails w the guy who makes them, I think they'll continue to evolve into something at least as robust as your standard AT tech system. I'll probably buy another pair next year to slap on an old pair of pattern base, which would be ideal for, example, Razorback or undulating Main Range.
    @dossa5 next up at hotham midweek on the10th. Mike
     
  27. mr

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    thanks boodwah! im 28.5 so it purty close. ill let you know... .i kinda half ordered a pair at the start of the year but a 3 mon th holiday got in the way...

    im thinking my bellows are just about done on my 75mm... first 2 or 3 inches of lift do nothing
     
  28. Ziggy

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    What boots & bindings mr?
     
  29. Ziggy

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    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    right now ive got garmont Energy (? - 4 buckle, bought 2009 with Kevin Rudds $900) and 7TM tours w release etc

    Im ok with the boot but the binding is too heavy...i dont mind how it goes, its more about me.....

    like the look of the TTS binding, obviously its a boot / binding package

    bit bloody tempted to put my old touring Riva3s back on everything and get it over with
     
  31. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    heheh.
    Rivas would happily release in a crash and burn too.
    But, as always, depends on whether your emphasis is on turning or touring, and what kind of turning.
     
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    [​IMG]
    Just bought the 2.0 upgrade for my Bishops. There's no breaking these puppies. Had a few days in the resort on them...brilliant.
     
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  33. Ziggy

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    Work of art.
     
  34. mr

    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    so...im looking at a 75mm binding, with a tour mode (?), without a release or brakes, yeah? Weight wise how to they fair?
     
  35. mr

    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    The Details:

    • Materials: Stainless Steel and Aluminum
    • Color: Orange
    • Weight per pair: 4.0 lbs. (1810 grams)
    • Customized flex with 3 different Thru Axle positions
    • Adjustable boot position one centimeter forwards and backwards
    • Boot Range: US Men’s 5 to 13, US womans 6 to 12, (Mondo 23 to 31 cm)
    • Total height from top of ski to top of binding (where boot rests): 35 mm
    • All adjustments with a 5 mm Hex Key
    • Climbing bail gives you 15 degrees of hill climbing rise
    • Bottle opener in the heel clip works on import, domestic, and craft beverages
     
  36. mr

    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    similar weight to the 7TMs, definitely cooler and probably more rigid
     
  37. Telemark Phat

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    They ski a lot better than the 7tMs did too.
     
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  38. Ziggy

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    No free pivot?
     
  39. mr

    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    according to the bishop site they are for badass rail jams, backflips in the park and general badassness
     
  40. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yo, bro.
    As heavy as Axls but not as flexible. But can open beer.
     
  41. Majikthise

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    The bottle opener is genius
     
  42. telemarx

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    I'll be honest, not great to tour on. But you can ski anything in them, totally rigid. I've never busted out of them. Alas, no release....
     
  43. DPS Driver

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    Bottle opener built in! Now that's engineering at its best.
     
  44. telecrag

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    i thought bombers were the bomb, but imo ntn is better, more progressive feel in the action, makes the bombers feel on/off. Still have some bombers though, what is the upgrade?

    Rolo broke his, they sent replacement parts, he is the only one I know who has managed it.
     
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    Apparently the ownership of the business changed. The new owner changed the design slightly & has gone to the market with Version 2.0. I wanted to change the springs & renew all the bushes etc but he has an upgrade kit that changes the binding so all the parts are compatible with 2.0 so I did that. Doesn't ski any different. I haven't tried NTN so can't make the comparison. I'll have to give them a try sometime.
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah, they stopped making them for quite a while, Mine would be over 10years old. Typical, I remember saying when I first saw them, why not just go alpine and have done with it. Words eaten.
     
  47. Majikthise

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    this comes as no surprise...
     
  48. Untele-whippet

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    Big litigation issue from a snow board binding accident put the brakes on development for a while.
     
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    I'm seriously contemplating buying this binding for my new BC setup. Does anyone have any opinions as to which boot would pair well with it? I'm thinking of the Scarpa Tx. Also, do you think they will come out with a new version this fall?

    Cheers
     
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    I've heard very good things about the Scarpa Tx and it's super versatile. You can ski it as an AT boot as well.