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Meidjo NTN

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by lennysan, Aug 9, 2015.

  1. Untele-whippet

    Untele-whippet beard stroker Ski Pass: Gold

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    Love my TX's
    For me they work v well on my NTN Freerides, Freedoms and TTS rigs plus are comfy and tour well.
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I really like mine. They will go straight into one of the frame bindings, might be the Marker? Dyna ready but you need a plate under the bellows. But I dont think thats an issue for teletimmo. TX's for turns, but I think whippets boots are better for more touring.
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Snap, mine are TX Pro?
     
  4. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Scarpa's Terminator X has been discontinued. It's TX Pro now (or TX Comp).
    Have a look too at the Crispi Evo NTN World Cup. 102 mm wide last & roomy toe box apparently. Everest in Bright will be bringing in Crispis.
     
  5. Boodwah

    Boodwah One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I have Scarpa TX. Great boot although not as light as some of my AT boots. The new versions are not AT compatible (at the rear).
     
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    Boodwah One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    New replacement Meidjo arrived and fitted. Definitely a different stronger mould and hopefully more robust plastic.
    I can tele again!!!
    (interestingly, had a few spare days over last 3 weeks when I could have got up for a regular ski but just couldn't motivate myself in light of not being able to tele.)
     
  7. jor

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    Looking for the close up comparison photos old broken and new mounted..
     
  8. Belongil

    Belongil Hard Yards

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    I'm using the crispi evo - a great boot, but heavier and stiffer than scarpa. Works well for really active skiing but great touring. Similar fit since scarpa went wider and crispi went narrower. I got mine at telemarkdown.com and I got a 44- pretty similar sizing to scarpa
     
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    Don't spose anyone can email a copy of the Meidjo mounting template?
     
  10. Boodwah

    Boodwah One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Will see if I still have mine.
    Otherwise just email Pierre on his website - he'll get straight back to you.
    Happy to report that my replacement heal-plates are rock solid.
    Tele'd my legs spare last couple of days without incident.
     
  11. skifree

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    Yep emailed the Meidjo website a while back, no answer yet.
     
  12. DPS Driver

    DPS Driver One of Us

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    Heard this the other day. No disrespect, just thought it was funny.


    Q - What did the tele skier say when he ran out of dope?

    A - Man, these bindings suck.
     
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    Never let them think you're not serious.
     
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  15. Boodwah

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    Couple of interesting lessons today.
    First, if you have the safety leases on the inside of your boot it is feasible that the tech toe piece could 'hook' one of these leases during a big fast turn, and it might be possible to double eject onto your head underneath the chairlift.
    This never happened to me of course.
    Second, if you get mooshy snow compacting into the groove where the duck-but clicks in, it won't because it can't. You could spend hours underneath the same chair trying to click in.
    This never happened either.
     
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    DPS Driver One of Us

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    Lucky that never happened to you. Imagine how embarrassing that could be.
     
  17. teleho

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    I would like a copy also. Interested in how the Meidjos would sit on my new Armada Kufos. (Yet to put the order in for the Meidjos) Skied on Meidjos, Volkl BMT 94s and Scarpa TXs about 10 days ago. Fantastic!! Normal gear is Movement Zip skis, Voile Hardwire releasable and Garmont Synergys. (Broke my leg about 5 years ago in NZ on Hammerheads so very interested in releasable tele bindings).

    Very impressed with the above setup so got some TX Pros and Kufos and will get the Meidjos all for Japan. Last time I went BC in Japan used BD Amps and 7TM Powertour 2 with BD tele boots - weight almost killed me.
     
  18. TeleNor

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    Le bon Pierre sent 2 templates. I still have one. Will scan and email to teleho tomorrow if he promises not to steal my BMT94s again.
     
  19. Boodwah

    Boodwah One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    You can also attend , for three days , the first round of the World Cup Telemark with the best athletes ot our favourite discipline

    As last year , we will be present with 15 pairs of skis. To test our new MEIDJO 2016, we will provide you with15 pairs of shoes SCARPA and friends of CRISPI will also be present.

    You can be among the first to discover our first stop-ski and crampon interface and our alpine heel.

    We look forward to your visit 26-28 november 2015 in Hintertux (Austria)

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  20. Boodwah

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    So looks like brakes, crampons and AT heal now available.
     
  21. TeleNor

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    For those wondering about the location of the screw holes for Meidjo bindings, I was hoping to attach a scanned drawing, but I've discovered that you can't post attachments here. Perhaps I can email it to those interested if you can PM me. For actually mounting the bindings, you'll want at least to use the supplied paper templates. A jig or drill press would be better, especially for skis with air channels where screw holes can go out of alignment while being drilled. Measure thrice and drill once!


    · Total distance from front toe holes to rear heel holes is 33.1 cm (my bindings are size L, which covers boots of mondopoint sizes 26.5 to 31).

    · The diameter of the screw holes themselves are larger than shown on the sketch, and of course inserts if used would be larger again.

    · Screws 1 to 8 all fix the toe piece to the ski. Screws 7 and 8 are behind the pivot point for the spring box. Note that these last two screws were added for version 2. Version 1 only had screws 1 to 6, and these were found to be insufficient for the forces generated by some skiers. The paper templates I received with the bindings reflected the v1 configuration. All v2 Meidjos should have 8 screws securing the toe-piece.

    · Screws 9 and 10 fix the slide on which the spring box (which holds the duckbutt) is cocked when you step into the binding. Much less force is applied to these 2 screws than to the 8 which hold the toepiece.

    · Screws 11 to 13 fix the heel piece, which has a moulded void for the (optional) Resqski device.

    · There are countersunk holes in the sides of the toe piece designed to take Meidjo ski brakes, which will apparently be available in early November. So far I have used the brake holes for ski leashes, but there are other places leashes can be attached to the binding.


    I had my Meidjos mounted on Volkl V-Werks BMT94 skis by Rhythm Sports in Cooma, using Meidjo-supplied Quiver Killer inserts and epoxy glue to spread the load of the screws given the light construction of the skis, and to allow the bindings to be swapped to other skis. As you may know, Volkl's web site recommends that only Marker AT bindings be mounted on these skis. It has also been said that use of any other binding will void the skis' warranty. My experience has been that with careful mounting, Meidjo bindings work perfectly well on BMT94s. Volkl USA owns Marker, so you can work out what's going on here!


    (For comparison purposes, I have used Scarpa TX boots and am not a very aggressive skier. And since you ask, yes, this is a combination made in skiing heaven! It performs and feels far better than my old combination of BD Voodoos, BD01 bindings and Scarpa T2 Eco boots. The TXs are much more comfortable for me than T2s as they are made from a wider last, the BMT 94s are incredibly light, especially in the ends, and ski beautifully, and the bindings are, well, just not noticeable, which is as I like it. I haven't tried the bindings with the (included) extra pairs of resistance springs yet, although it's said that adding them brings a Meidjo binding close to the activity level of Hammerheads at position #5.)
     
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  22. Boodwah

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    Nice rig.
    Brakes and crampon slots now available Telemark Pyrenees, easy to retrofit.
     
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  23. TeleNor

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    Thanks! Note to self: 1. Buy brakes and crampons, 2. Visit travel agent.
     
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    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Heel thingy is for the weak! Just buy a dynafit ya lilly legged little powder puffs!

    Front bit looks OK though.
     
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  26. Boodwah

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    Like a lot.
    Pretty revolutionary binding really: ultra-lightweight touring, NTN tele, AT hybrid.
    I got so in to tele this year that I renounced any training heals.
    However, it would be fine to have the option of all modes of skiing. Might lock the heals for tight steep chutes, or otherwise trying terrain.
     
  27. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Doing a long run down in crap snow with a pack - bending the knee is tiring and a risk to the knees.
     
  28. Angus_McCrory

    Angus_McCrory Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Was going to say, could suit you..... best of both worlds :thumbs:
     
  29. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I can parallel after a fashion on 75mm bindings and in fact spent time working on it this winter. But the surface was often hard and that probably contributed to the meniscus tear. No escape from the kisses of time.
     
  30. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    NTN parallels very well, but you still cant blast through shit like someone on alpine. If I could get used to it, I might use it if the snow was really shit.

    I think it may be nearly 30 years since I had a go on alpine.
     
  31. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah. dossa5 advised me to move to NTN if I wanted to do more parallels but I'll leave them in the category of survival techniques for the moment.
     
  32. Untele-whippet

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    Good article, agree w everything he had to say - as well as stiffer boot options would also like to see them lighter.
     
  34. telecrag

    telecrag Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    @tele-whippet , your comps have the inserts, but are a softer boot? Have to say I find my Pro's comfy for touring generally. When they talk stiffer, are they talking cuff? Softer is maybe better if you like to go low?

    Carbon boots where art thou?
     
  35. Untele-whippet

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    The Pro's are way stiffer and a bit heavier 1750 g than the TX's 1630 g.
    I'd have to check but my gut feeling is that the TX's have a greater cuff range of movement than the Pro's for touring.
     
  36. Boodwah

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    Have a pair of Dynafit carbons that i don't use much - might try and hammer a bellows into them...
    Meidjos 2.0 creeping up to $1000 AUD if you want healpiece and brakes.
     
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    like to try them but my boots TX Comps don't allow... if only!
     
  39. TeleNor

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    Just bought the new brakes from Telemark Pyrenees for my existing version 1.2 Meidjos. All seemed good with the fitting except that I couldn't persuade the springs to go where I thought they needed to go. TP is producing a video for dills like me on how to fit the brakes, so I assume it will be available on the TP web site, perhaps also that of The M Equipment.
     
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    !!!!!!!
     
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    Dwarf?
    Actually have a pair of those Atomics in 210, but can't imagine the point of putting Meidjos on them.
     
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    Photobucket not working atm, so just a link to Meidjos 2:0.

    https://picasaweb.google.com/117594649296923899307/January202016?authuser=0&feat=directlink

    PITA to mount, mostly because they came with no instructions or templates, as well as several missing pieces. Suspect M-equipment has gone into overload-busy because they aren't responding to any of my emails, and another mate has been told that the 2:0 has sold out already.
    Like all things tele, the modus operandi seems to be "feel free to just ****en toughen up and cope"
    So I found some online printable templates for the front bits, but otherwise pretty much used line of sight and the bindings (and boots) themselves as templates.
    The Alpine tech-heal is novel and very light, but doesn't seem terribly robust - more of a reminder that you've temporarily chosen to not tele. I give it a few days at most...
     
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    First impressions good, maybe not as stiff as the 1:0 so have had to crank up (double) springs. With the heal piece the binding is harder to step in to - especially w one ski lacking the little plastic piece that helps cock the toe-plate. The heal piece in AT mode works a treat - big wide cranking turns in pow felt solid. And yet it does release: I stepped out of it just whilst messing around kick-turning.
    Glad I bought the heals - I'm still struggling to tele in deep powder and ate a lot of snow yesterday.
    The DPS tour is an outstanding ski.
     
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    Struggling to tele in deep powder sounds like a terrible problem to have.
     
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    so brains trust......scarpa tx pro + meidjos 2 are the shiz yeah? ill get the boots locally but ordering the bindings on line from pyreness telemark. any thing special i need to ask for on the internerds? i assume 'long' for 28 mondo? any other variables? they say 8 feb they will have more
     
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    Trigger, pull!

    For touring I assume.
     
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    ideally both tour and resort? any reasons they dont suit both??....but yeah the main reason is to get some weight off my feet. also i have 2 buckle tourers and 4 buckle bombers in 75mm and the tx 3 buckle seems a good balance of the 2
     
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    So I'm getting the hang of tele-ing in deep pow. In waist deep stuff like today, it's essentially a parallel turn for me and the Meidjo allows that. I'm regretting the heal-piece now b/c I don't think I'll be using it much. Had to engineer missing step-in cocking device out of plastic and a screw, but once you've the hang of it, Meidjo is definitely step in. Also definitely both tour and resort @mr.
    Had a chat to this guru today who was intrigued by the Meidjos:
    http://www.grand-hirafu.jp/blog/50th/english/2011/07
    They were certainly lighter than his skis.
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