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Meidjo NTN

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by lennysan, Aug 9, 2015.

  1. DPS Driver

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    Nashi san rips. Did you ski with him? I've skied his Vector Glides and they are super heavy, like skiing a Mack truck. Fun though.
    Great pic, might have to send it to DPS for a post if you're keen.
     
  2. Boodwah

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    No probs w photo - will have lots of others!
    Didn't ski w him, but tried to pick up his skis. Lead cores. Spent 2 hours in his shop.
     
  3. telecrag

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    Nice shot @Boodwah ! @mr I like my freerides inbounds, and would basically think its a touring option for the same reason that you dont see people skiing dynafit inbounds too often. Inbounds weight can be your friend.

    Tx pro are 4 buckle, comp are 3 I think?
     
  4. Boodwah

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    Anothery for @DPS Driver with the logo. Kokusai BC
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  5. GS

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    Awesome photo
     
  6. mr

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    yes the pros are 4 buckle and hmmm because i was told no comps coming this year where i was looking. not sure i want the pro (too tall for touring i think) but im not sure i want to buy a boot off the internet without trying it on, so im not sure what to do

    agree about weight, fair call there
     
  7. Boodwah

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    What shoe size are you - I'm a 29 mondo Scarpa if you want to try for size.
     
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  8. Telemark Phat

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    I count 4
     
  9. Telemark Phat

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    Whats with the beginner turn?
     
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    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    The Tx has a very soft and mushy bellows flex, the Tx Pro is a more of a modern all round boot. I use my Txs for BC only, but I also have a burly resort boot too.

    I'd rate the Meijdo as and up to 50% resort binding. It skis great and they're very light. But for resort use they have the fiddle factor and I'm not sure I'd trust them for too much resort use. Mind you I'm putting them on the skis I want to ski the most when I'm in Japan next month. I' describe the Tx as a up to 50% resort boot. If I was only allowed to have one binding and one boot that would probably be the combo I'd choose. But much more resort than about 40% I'd be hankering for a stiffer boot and I'd be starting to think about a burlier binding.
     
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    thanks boodwah, my feet are 275mm and im pretty sure my garmonts are 27.5 so you are too much man for me!

    maybe its the terminator i want then in 3 buckles.....maybe its the same height though as the 4 bucklers. anyway i have 4 buckle garmonts and find em a bit tall for touring and i thought maybe a bit lower cuff id find a sweet spot

     
  12. Boodwah

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    29ish
    I'm a beginner?
    About my 30th day on teles ever.
    So I'm happier turning tele up to knee-deep now.
    But when it starts to get thigh-waist deep I'm reverting to parallel - firstly because it (honestly) feels just as good, secondly b/c the Meidjos allow it, and lastly I'm totally scared of wasting such unbelievable pow - and also of losing a ski: clicking back in to the Meidjos in that stuff would be very challenging.
     
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  13. Boodwah

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    Saw the terminator yesterday - a nice looking boot, and lighter too.
     
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    Sheesh, the Terminator looks like the old comp, when there were only two models.

    I had a pair of the original Terminators, when there was only one plakky!
     
  15. Telemark Phat

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    It took me quite a few seasons to dump the alpine gear.
     
  16. Boodwah

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    Dumped already
     
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  18. Boodwah

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    One of us needs to buy one of those drill jigs...
     
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  20. CarveMan

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    I've got the Jigarex, just need the plates.

    I need some more, I got caught out last week by the Dynafit Radical 2.
     
  21. Telemark Phat

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    I've ordered the 85mm to 140mm one already.
     
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  23. teleho

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    Hi TP Have been waiting a while for Tele Pyrenees to ship me the Meidjo 2 Off to Japan Sat week so getting nervous about them arriving on time. Plan to mount bindings myself. Was going to use inserts but will wait till our winter when I will get a couple of kits from Quiuverkiller. I will be mounting on Armada KIufo - which I presume has a metal plate as they recommend a 3.3, 4.1 drill bit but I will just finesse the 4.1 hole thru the metal insert. As the mounting exercise will be temporary I plan to use waterproof wood glue. I have a drill press so I should get the holes straight.

    Any tips/advice?
     
  24. teleho

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    TP I should have said that I leave Hokkaido on 10 March - otherwise I would have liked to do the APSI tele course. Keep me in the loop if you have another one.
     
  25. Boodwah

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    Hey @teleho, I printed a paper template off the net (make sure Meidjo 2:0, not the 1:0 as they're quite different), and then just glued it onto the ski after obtaining and drawing mid line on the ski. Definitely watch the "how to mount" Youtube segments on the M-equipment website, as there's a certain order of doing things which differs slightly from the 1:0.
    Also don't forget to insert the little rubber stopper under the hinge. I didn't opt for brakes so can't comment on them, but can also offer advice on the AT heal-pieces if you got them too.
     
  26. teleho

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    Thanks B I was all set to get the heel pieces as well but at @ $1100 for the whole rig I was in danger of a lifetime of mockery from my lockdown heel sons.
     
  27. Boodwah

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    I wouldnt bother - they ski well without the need, and possibly not robust enough to rely on anyway.
     
  28. Telemark Phat

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    According to armada that ski doesn't have metal in it, so I'd be cautious about using a 4.1 x 9 bit. Their description of a 3.5 x 4.1 x 9 drill bit is confusing. I'd use a 3.1 x 9 bit and if it's too hard to screw the binding into the ski redrill the holes with a 4.1 x 9 bit. Or if you see metal shavings switch to a 4.1 x 9 bit.

    If there really is metal in those skis you should tap the holes.

    I don't bother with epoxy and only ever use urethane glue, like every ski shop in the world.

    You'll need to redrill the holes for the inserts with the installation bit, 6.5 for binding freedom inserts from memory.
     
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    Just change your booking ;)
    I'll post the Australian course dates soon and we'll have our Japan dates set in Spring for next year.
     
  30. DPS Driver

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    ^^^^ what he said. Use a 3.6 or 4.1 x 9 and tap it, regardless of whether it has a metal mounting plate or not.
     
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    Tapping is certainly better, but I'm not convinced it's necessary in skis without metal, and I wonder whether or not it really is necessary in most modern metal laminate skis (not race skis obviously) where the metal is more like a sheet of foil than a sheet of metal.
     
  32. teleho

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    Thanks Might be a couple of others in my lodge that are also interested in the course.
    Tele Pyrenees said the Meidjos are on their way!
    Armada specify their expensive proprietary bit on the topsheet but if there is no metal its pointless. I will use a 3.5 bit.
    Also got some BD Glidelights to trim - going to be a fun time.
    Unfortunately heavy rain predicted for Furano this w'end - hope its not a sign of things to come.
     
  33. DPS Driver

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    It's conversation / argument we have at DPS. Myself and our chief ski tech insist on tapping where others just don't bother. Our take is that by tapping you are not mangling the fibres as much which translates to a better seal.
     
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    By tapping do you mean a smaller hole first?
     
  35. Telemark Phat

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    Does DPS still recommend epoxy?
     
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    Tapping is pre cutting the thread in the hole with, funnily enough, a tap!
     
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    Yes or one part polyurethane which is what I use. Gorilla Glue.
     
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    Oh, hang on, I thought it was dancing with metal plates on your shoes while mounting your bindings. Quite difficult which is why some don't tapROFL
     
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    Tapping with a tap
     
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    Good summary.
    I'd add that robust stocks are a good idea - i snapped the tips off a pair of carbon fibre poles, and even aluminium poles had a bit too much flex to engage the system on occasion. i ended up carrying a screwdriver around for a bit before i eventually lost any interest in heal retention anyway.
     
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    Those 75mm boots look so odd to me these days
     
  46. teleho

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    Quick report on the Meidjos based on 12 days BC in Hokkaido - Furano, Asahi Dake, Tocachi Mtns and Tomamu, etc. Boots: Scarpa TX Pro Took about 3 days for the Intuition liners to bed in but great after that - much easier for touring than the Garmont Synergys I think. They are softer tho. Skiis: Armada Kufo - GREAT! Flat tail made it really stable on the groomers - rocker up front great on powder. Skied as fast as 112 DPS Wailers.
    The Meidjos: I really enjoyed the light weight, not too difficult to get into - but I decided not to use the ski brakes for Japan and used leashes instead. Only used one set of springs, set about 3.5 - worked for me in the powder. Set release springs at low (1st 'square') Had 2 fall releases on groomers - no releases at all in the powder. My main criticism is snow build up on the hook. I had to clear ice/snow from the 'flippers' after almost every long uphill. Its a major problem. Clearing the ice with the points of stocks resulted in gouging of the soft plastic. Ended up using a flat screwdriver. Next time I will make a flat blade I can attach to my gloves somehow.
    Overall a great package and would recommend the Meidjos. (They are great for paralleling when you wimp out in the really deep stuff!)
     
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    Commonly reported icing issues

    C/- earnyourturns
     
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    Every AT binding I've tried whether frame or tech/dynafit has icing issues though, it seems to be a bit inherent in the function. Tech telemark systems welcome to the club.
     
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    good thing we only get powder in australia!