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Most Vertical Skied in a Day Challenge

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by Makeo, Jun 27, 2016.

  1. Makeo

    Makeo Hard Yards

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    I'm launching a social media fund raising campaign to raise money for Water Aid called #waterwager.

    https://waterinnovators2016.everydayhero.com/au/david

    The basic premise of which is that participants challenge their friends and colleagues to a competitive endeavour, the loser of which donates a pre-determined amount to Water Aid. So for example I might challenge you to a game of tennis with the loser to donate $20 to water aid. The choice of the competitive endeavour is left open to the participants so it could be anything from chess to who can eat the most bugs.

    I'm thinking that a good challenge would be to see who could ski the most vertical in a single day over a period of a month.

    There could be two categories.

    1. Participants commit to the challenge and are then randomly paired with someone else, the person who skis the least one day total for the month loses and has to donate to Water Aid.
    2. Everyone enters the pool and only the winner for the single highest daily total over the month doesn't donate.

    Recording would be via an app like Ski Tracker.

    Is there any interest in participating in a challenge like this for a good cause? (and glory of course)

    You can see some of the challenges that have been laid down so far on the Facebook or Twitter Account.

    https://www.facebook.com/waterwager
    https://twitter.com/waterwager
     
  2. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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  3. DidSurfNowSki

    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    I try to get within a million VMs of Normo in a season. Does that count ?
     
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  4. Makeo

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    It would be for a single day total only, not cumulative.
     
  5. Doonks

    Doonks Let's cook! Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Normo still wins
     
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    D_Dog Hard Yards

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    This raises an interesting question. What is the best way to get the most vertical metres in a day?

    I would think lapping the supertrail using kosi express would win hands down...in that case, unless Normo skis at Thredbo he might be in trouble.
     
  7. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    There was a similar type challenge planned in Japan last season, but postponed until next season. It ran along the lines of a single day competition (about $60 entry fee)
    - Individual: Fastest to do Mt Fuji vertical 3776m
    - Team: Fastest to do Mt Everest vertical 8848m

    Personally, I felt that the Everest vertical was doable by an individual in one day.

    Strategy, selection of location:
    - Steepest groomed vertical that does not mogul up
    - Fastest lift speed (usually a detachable quad)
    - Smallest queue

    In that case, it was a detachable quad with 380m vertical, lift line is usually 0-2 people. 24 runs of this would get you Everest, in my estimation would take 6 hours or less. Many others were planning to use the maximum vertical (Gondola, about 745m vert), but the speed and lift lines would slow things, PLUS the bottom 150m is flat.
     
  8. DidSurfNowSki

    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    Put Normo on a magic carpet --- he wins
    Put Normo on a T-bar --- he wins
    Put Normo on a Chair --- he wins
    Put Normo on a Gondola --- he wins

    Spot the pattern ?
     
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  9. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hmm ...... What happen on this day ??? :D

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. kaegee

    kaegee One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Talking DSNS into crash tackling Normo at every gate doesn't count . :);)
     
  11. nfip

    nfip Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    When I saw that a few weeks back I knew you'd be dining out on it sooner or later.
    Likely both ! LOL
    A good determined early season scalp Astro , well done.
     
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  12. DidSurfNowSki

    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    ROFL
    1 day wonderboy
     
  13. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo Ski Pass: Gold

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    Says the guy who came equal second. Sounds like sour grapes to me. :p
     
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  14. Makeo

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    Hey Astro66, what's this from?

     
  15. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo Ski Pass: Gold

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    Sunday of Opening Weekend. They opened the V8 at about 1pm. Managed about 41 odd laps.

    Normo and DSNS managed 41- 1.

    <BTW. Don't tell them but i was completely shagged afterwards> LOL
     
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    nfip Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    and busting for that p*&ss they had and you didn't.
     
  17. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo Ski Pass: Gold

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    Shat and pissed my pants. But it was worth it. LOL
     
  18. Makeo

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    Sorry, I meant what app? Also was this in a thread on the forums?
     
  19. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo Ski Pass: Gold

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    Perisher App. In leaderboard. Though Android stopped working on Sunday and was out for the rest of the week.

    So I took a photo of DSNS iphone screen.

    And yes it was posted in the Perisher TR thread.
     
  20. piolet

    piolet Better make it three Ski Pass: Gold

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    41 laps of the v8?
    Crikey
     
  21. SkiMountaineer

    SkiMountaineer One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I have often wondered this. I ski Perisher when "in resort", and have been amazed when I skied hard, fast and non-stop one day and thought to check the vert, that I was nowhere near the top vertical metre achievers (like 1000s metres out). I probably lost a few metres by using lifts without metering devices, and still wanted to ski interesting terrain and enjoy myself, so wasn't trying to lap the Village Idiot or jump on the Quad Express and "trick" the lift by jumping off at mid station. I wondered what lift the top guys were lapping.
     
  22. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo Ski Pass: Gold

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    Quad Express only metred to Mid station. If you go to the top. You get nothing extra.

    Timers also used on lifts to prevent double scans and jumping off early.

    Every metre earned downhill at Perisher is a true metre downhill.
     
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  23. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo Ski Pass: Gold

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    Perisher have listed Statistics and Lift Travel Times for all lifts. There is an algorithm to mathamatically calculate which lift is the most efficient.

    This information is a closely guarded by, "The Brotherhood of VM".
     
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    sbm One of Us

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    Actually as an aside, I suspect that the general algorithm to maximize your vertical, with average lift times and run times given for any trail map you care to try, and starting and ending at the same point, would turn out to be a variation of the infamously difficult Traveling Salesman Problem, which there is currently a million dollar prize to solve. In the specific case of Perisher Valley though it's probably solvable.

    That's just a suspicion though...you should get your son to look at it Astro he's more qualified than me!
     
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  25. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    The algorithm would have to include time in lift lines and how that varies according to time of day. Which would also have to include variations caused by wind and other weather conditions.

    Does Normo ski with a supercomputer?
     
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  26. Makeo

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    So is there any interest in some form of event/competition to raise money for wateraid? Could be something like $10 per participants. If people were randomly assigned only the person with the least amount of vertical would donate.
     
  27. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo Ski Pass: Gold

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    Wateraid is a very good cause. Sydney Water is a huge supporter. But respectfully I wouldn't donate through that crowd funding site as fees are nearly 9%.

    I donate about $300 a year to my charity. I find directly donating sees more of the funds ending up actually making a difference.

    But I wish you luck with your venture. :thumbs:
     
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  28. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    I donate $300.01
     
  29. Astro66

    Astro66 Still looking for a park in Thredbo Ski Pass: Gold

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    BC Snowmobile Aid ???
     
  30. VSG

    VSG Crayon Master Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    quote

    Strategy, selection of location:
    - Steepest groomed vertical that does not mogul up
    - Fastest lift speed (usually a detachable quad)
    - Smallest queue


    That will do it.

    Most Australian resorts. Nope.

    Eyre at Perisher, non school hols, Monday or Tuesday. Crank it.
     
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  31. nfip

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    Solid effort that !
     
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    Last edited: Jun 28, 2016
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  32. dawooduck

    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    This a friend at Thredbo today. One Run High Noon.

     
  33. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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  34. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    Jackson Hole used to have a 150,000 feet in a week challenge. I think I did it in 6 days, which is about 7,500 metres/day. All self reporting in the 1980s, but I didn't fudge. It was the 4th week in a row, and I was young, fit and stupid, but I don't recall it as being anything more than first lifts to last lifts. January, so no crowds, and good weather. The Tram helped, of course.
     
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    mr Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    how bout an earn your turns version?
     
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  36. Makeo

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    Cool, I'm open to any suggestions. How would it work do you think?
     
  37. Normo

    Normo Mostly Harmless Ski Pass: Gold

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    An iPhone and the "vibe". :D
     
  38. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    skiline in Europe (extensive in Austria) is good at tracking VM based on your lift ticket - no app required.
    Spring skiing on grooomers does make it easier.

     
  39. Karicta

    Karicta A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I tend to view 100kph on public runs as generally negligent,although if empty, good vis and in very partic spots I spose there are exceptions. Edit: Given whose friend it is, I presume it's Stephen Lee or someone similar so j really should shut up.

    (Fuk I'm getting old)
     
  40. dawooduck

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    nfip Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I get this for sure.
    I do a fair bit of skiing with an Italian mate we call Tomba who taught me to really let them run... he's instructions many years ago was no moar skidding OK ??? !!. Took me to another level.
    There have been moments when I've been tailing him I've pulled back ( fear of death )and watched the snow melt under his planks. Icier the better for him.
    Complete control .
    Even armpit deep Japow on his 68w !!!
     
  42. DidSurfNowSki

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    Not a relative by any chance ? You don't need to answer ;)
     
  43. Slushii

    Slushii Mostly missing in action... Moderator

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    @scullee and I completed/exceeded the Everest vertical last Feb at Vail... lots of high speed runs towards the end (plus we were robbed for a couple as the EpicMix sensors didn't pick up our rfid tags. I ended up doing... officially, 32,134 ft that day, after adding in ones missed by the system, it was 35,982 ft, 26 lift rides in one day.
     
  44. soda

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    Big day at Snowbird.

    [​IMG]
     
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    So back a million years ago when Perisher Blue first came into being, there was a ski column in the Canberra Times that organised a "ski all 50 lifts in a day" challenge. They followed that up with a maximum vertical in a day challenge at Thredbo. They organised a couple of ski racers (I think Steve Lee might have been one of them), then arranged lift line priority on the Kossie quad and let them at it. Off the top of my head I remember them doing something like 35 laps for a total of around 20000 VM.

    @VSG has a memory for these sort of things.
     
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    I know the chap who did the 98kms on Hi Noon. He is a very good skiier and the only person I have ever seen him take out was himself at the end of the Thredbo Masters race when he went over the fence at the end of the course and ended up inside the timing hut!
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Wasn't @hipo was it?
    He has an affinity for fences ;)

    Sorry @Makeo, I think you've lost this crowd - you mention 'most VMs' and now the tape measures are out ROFL

    Good cause.
    I'm not likely to be around much this season, only got 2 days planned in Thredbo. But you'd think with the competiveness of this lot you'd be on a winner... Go figure!
     
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    Twas a big day

    I know of 3-4 lifts it missed for me too. First lifts to last lifts and i was smoked.
     
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    I remember high tailing it down HN once thinking how good I am, and some cheeky bugger flew past me going backwards. My ego has never recovered.
     
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