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Most Vertical Skied in a Day Challenge

Discussion in 'Snow Talk' started by Makeo, Jun 27, 2016.

  1. sly_karma

    sly_karma Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    With a cable length of 2148 m and a speed of 8 m/s, that would be a ride time of 7:16 on the main cable, plus the load and unload sections which must be lengthy to accommodate the logistics of loading 30 persons per car. Say 60 sec for each of those for all up ride time of 9:16. Add another 30 sec top and bottom for ski removal/replacement and walking through load corral areas, now you are at 10:16 of skis not gliding.

    To the skiing portion: I dont know what this piste is like, but let's say an appropriately equipped elite skier going flat out can match the 300 vert m per minute that our Apex competitors did. So that would give a run time of 2:50. Total lap time of 13:06 which if sustained over 6.5 hours would yield 30 laps of 853 m for 25, 590 m vert.

    I would question whether those speeds could be sustained. There's a big difference between a 2 minute run and a 3 minute run in terms of anaerobic time and lactic buildup. It is no coincidence that the longest course on the world cup DH circuit is a shade over 2:30, and most run just under 2 minutes.
     
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    I wonder if someone at Maydena will beat that. It's 30% higher and bloody steeper!
    Uplift is slow compared to a lift though.
     
  3. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    150,000 feet in a week. I got mine in 6 days without particularly trying.
     
  4. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    They ran the Olympic downhill on the Face Bellevarde, hence the name of the lift.
     
  5. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    That sounds about right. Have to see if I can can find that badge.
     
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  6. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    It was also the days when you bought an extra ticket, on top of your normal pass, to ride the tram. It was a disincentive to ride the tram.
     
  7. dustmonkey

    dustmonkey Early Days

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    Was riding the T-bar at Rainbow, and was wondering aloud how many rides there would be in a typical day. The single I was riding with said that a son and friend had done 51 laps, which equates to about 11200 metres -not bad, considering it isn't the fastest of T-bars.

    A photo of the lap, taken a couple of days ago.

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. Townsend

    Townsend One of Us

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    Jackson used to give away buckles when you reached three milestones. I think they were 100,000ft, 500,000 ft and one million feet!
     
  9. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    The 100,000 and 150,000 were just badges.
     
  10. Townsend

    Townsend One of Us

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    I think I might have a 100,000 buckle...it was a long time ago!
     
  11. Timmossy

    Timmossy One of Us

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    I haven’t read through the previous pages so may have already been mentioned but I did a bit of research on this recently.

    In Victoria the quickest way of all resorts to do vert is the International Poma at falls and jump off at the corner.

    Quickest at Buller is Fed.

    At Hotham I will confirm this weekend when I can confirm lift speeds!

    Quickest of all time in history was the Sun Valley Poma @ Buller.
     
  12. Bogong

    Bogong Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Do you have a rough idea of its speed, or where you heard that?

    The Summit Access / Howqua double ended Poma at Buller ran at 6½ metres a second for a few years before the inevitable carnage caused Orange to slow it down to below 5 m/s. That is the fastest known speed of any ski lift in Australia and possibly the fastest surface lift in the world (although there are very vague hearsay stories of a kiwi nutcracker tow running at 7 m/s).

    So if the short lived Sun Valley Poma went as fast, or faster, than Summit Access / Howqua, that is sort of important as far as records go. With the cut throat competition at Buller, Blue may well have run their Poma faster than Orange ran theirs.
     
  13. Timmossy

    Timmossy One of Us

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    The speed is only part of the equation for vert, the lifts gradient also comes into play. There’s a good photo of it in the Mt Buller 2019 thread - it’s steep AF. Steeper than Brockoff.
     
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  14. sly_karma

    sly_karma Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    If you'd read the rest of the thread you'd agree that the terrain is just as important as the lift serving it. You need steep wide groomed black run right under the lift or very close to it to minimize time wasted traversing. Massive vert isnt the advantage you'd think it was, because it's better to have short breaks between descents rather than long runs with skier fatigue and changing snow down the big vert.
     
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    Most vertical skied in a run, summit of Mt Blanc.
    In a day, probably laps of Mt Vallon in Meribel on a zero lift queue day.
     
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    Dave6 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    robbo mcs One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    There are 4-5 people that I know of at Perisher that have done more than 20,000m in a day, the most being 22,000m. A forum member did 25,000m in a day this season, but that included night skiing
     
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    But Foote (the guy in the link) skinned up as well as skied down!
     
  19. robbo mcs

    robbo mcs One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes I know. Impressive:)

    I wasn’t really referencing that, just more the discussion in general.
     
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  20. Timmossy

    Timmossy One of Us

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    I incorporated the best descent route into my calcs, hence why international to the corner at falls wins because there’s a groomed decent down directly adjacent to the lift line.
     
  21. Zeroz

    Zeroz A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Zeroz A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    robbo mcs One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    If we are talking seasons, I seriously doubt anyone will ever beat @Normo best Australian season of 1.2M vertical metres in 2014. That season he skiied every day of the Australian season, and nearly every day was first to last lifts. Doing 1.2mill on relatively slow Australian lifts at Perisher is a pretty amazing achievement:)
     
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  24. Legs Akimbo

    Legs Akimbo Grumblebum Ski Pass: Gold

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    Sure. But it broke him. There are rumours that this year he discovered Blue Cow and Guthega as part of his recovery.;)
     
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  25. Normo

    Normo Mostly Harmless Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not Broken.............just Severely Bent!
    :D
     
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  26. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I reached a million vertical metres heli-skiing with HMH in NZ last year. Just that it took me a total of 218 days over 35 years to get there.
     
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    I wouldn’t have the foggiest idea how many vertical metres I’ve skied ever. I know the height of some mountains I’ve climbed to ski but never bothered with the vertical metres skied.

    I’ve had ski partners tell me we skied x amount of metres today, to wit I’d answer, “that’s nice” or cool or sweet or who gives a fck.

    It’s never been a priority. Different strokes for different folks.

    Although! @Normo thats impressive, you crazy mofo.
     
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  28. Scooter

    Scooter One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hey @Normo - Seeing this thread prompted me to see how you were going on that Perisher leaderboard and it looks like you have slowed down a fair bit (which makes sense - don't see you posting pics etc. in that Perisher thread as much these days - I seem to recall you started the season strong however). Whats the story? You taking it a bit easier this year?

    In regards to VM's I had a quick look on my phone to see what I did last season and lo and behold I didn't track a single day so I obviously wasn't that much of a keeny beeny LOL

    @DPS Driver I use that Ski Tracks app - it is pretty cool so you should check it out - even if all you do is use it for the GPS plots that you can then mess around with in Google Earth etc.

    Past seasons were cleared from my phone (would be backed up with pics and vids etc.) but I did have the season prior to last still there and all it tells me I should probably be going harder than I am :oops: Lots of 3 hour entries etc. but then as I was there for awhile (couple of months) I could afford to have days off and go out for a few hours rather than doing first to last lifts. TBH the only time I really go hard is on powder days and even then it is only for a few hours etc. because if I am honest I am wrecked after a couple of hours going really hard so most of my time is just mucking around with the family doing trees etc.

    So with that in mind picking a handful of bigger days from what was on my phone (7000 meters in 4.30, 6839 in 4.42, 7101 in 4.19, 7298 in 4.56) I'm pretty confident I could rack up a decent total if that was what I wanted to do :D
     
  29. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I've been using the Ski Tracks app the last couple of years for the heli-skiing in NZ. Works well and much easier than tryig to track from the heli altimeter. Don't bother using it at resorts though. In Austria the skiline.cc system is great - most resorts feed into it. Using the good lift systems there it is quite easy to do 10,000m+ a day without having to go too hard if skiing the pistes. Have had a few days of 12 & 13K.
     
  30. DPS Driver

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    I try not to ski with a phone if I can help it.

    Skitude is a good app that we work with.
     
  31. LDJ

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    yes it is did 18000 vms via ski tracks app in saalbach without really trying due to super efficient lifts and long fast red runs
     
  32. Normo

    Normo Mostly Harmless Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hi Scooter,
    Yeah, decided to listen to my body a bit more and ease up on the big metres.
    I'm generally not skiing weekends and am mostly off the hill by 3pm. I've done a couple of full days when conditions have been great but have been happy to stop when things are less than ideal.
    There's quite a few guys doing great posts and pics in the Perisher thread so I've got a bit lazy there too!
    Hope all is good for you and the family! :thumbs:
     
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    [​IMG]

    :p
     
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    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    I've managed to out ski @Normo on a good day.

    I've never been able to out ski @Normo on two consecutive days...

    Don't know how he does it.
     
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    Yeah all good mate :thumbs:

    Looks like you you just kicked over half a million VM's and 70 days so your not taking it too easy LOL

    Sounds like skipping the weekends is probably a good strategy as sentiment seems to be that weekends have been pretty busy this season. How have you rated it (the season generally) to date?
     
  36. Normo

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    Fantastic. Great snow base, lots of bluebird days, resort opened in May and will remain open til the 13th October. The crowds were generally tolerable. Lots of fun!:)
     
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