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Resource Moveable classic XC ski skin bindings. WOW!

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by Mister Tee on XC Skis, Oct 5, 2020.

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  1. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis Not your average unconventional eccentric. Ski Pass: Gold Ski Pass: Silver

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    Moveable classic XC ski skin bindings. WOW.
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Given the trouble we went to in the workshop to get xc bindings in exactly the right spot on each pair of skis it’s curious to see a need to grossly change the position.

    @Telemark Phat
     
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    teckel "I'm not a cat" Ski Pass: Gold

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    They may be OK for top racers wanting to move their position during the race for different terrain and/or conditions, but almost everybody else has no need or interest in moving their position.
    Mister T, with most Rottefella bindings these days, you get a little 'key' that allows you to move your bindings when the skis are not on the snow. These Move bindings allow you to do it while on snow.
     
  4. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    It would work, but it's a gimmick I'd never bother to use.
     
  5. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis Not your average unconventional eccentric. Ski Pass: Gold Ski Pass: Silver

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    At first I did think WOW and rushed to share this with some of you more experienced skiers but now I can see it is a bit of a gimmick. I like the fish scale pattern base and the binding being where it is. Kicker skins are easy to add and subtract if needed.
     
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    Sometimes it's preferable to move off the standard mounting position for dropping cliffs and doing reverse airs. Also helps for skating backwards. New school.
     
  7. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    It was a thing. Fischer made a twin tip skate ski for a while.
     
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    I have been moving my bindings forward or back for years to adjust for different conditions. It works. Want more glide, move the binding back. Need a bit more grip move the binding forward.
     
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    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    Or you can just adjust your technique.
     
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    BilbyBill One of Us

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    I can do that too.
     
  11. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Still find this a very curious need given in the workshop we were always locating the binding to the optimum balance point for any given ski and this is different for classic and skate so the ski would behave correctly on each stride. Surely dicking about with this requires a variety of strides to learn to accommodate the different ski movement associated with each change in balance point and resulting ski behaviour?
     
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  12. Mister Tee on XC Skis

    Mister Tee on XC Skis Not your average unconventional eccentric. Ski Pass: Gold Ski Pass: Silver

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    A very salient point indeed!
     
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    My theory on this is in line with @Telemark Phat re adjusting technique.

    It's the same with surfboards. When I was making surf boards for a living we would experiment with shapes, fin placement, rocker, concave, V & rails etc in an attempt to find that perfect board. Many times you would create a pig which needed to be re-jigged to make it work. But mostly it was a case of adjusting your surfing (technique), stance, front versus back foot, etc etc to make them work

    I find it exactly the same with skis, including XC skis. Would I bother changing my mount position for climbing, versus gliding versus skating etc. Nah! couldn't be bother when all I have to do is adjust my technique. It's quicker and more effective.

    I've stated this many times on this forum re alpine skis. Ski them for 3 days and you'll dial them in or more accurately you'll dial your technique in to accommodate the ski.
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    This.:thumbs:
     
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    DidSurfNowSki One of them Ski Pass: Gold

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    The bindings on my old K2 rictors automatically move in the direction you apply pressure . Does that count ? :D
     
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    What about moveable tips and tails, so the binding stays firmly anchored in one sturdy spot but the tips and tails can be extended or retracted via a Glide-Grip App to change the binding / boot interface point of balance?
    And another Gnarly Turn App to shorten the inside ski and lengthen the outside ski for purrfect turns.
     
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    What you smokin' Willis?
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    He’s an ideas man, gotta look after em. Good ideas are hard to find.
     
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    Good ideas men are even harder to find......
     
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    Cruel......