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On the Ski Bowl cam, I notice some earthworks near the Ski Patrol/Lift ticket building. Any one have any idea what is being built there? :)
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Is that a couple of new tanks beside the building on the Tank Hill cam?
The tanks have been there for a few months. What I'm referring to seems to have only just started in the last week or so. It may be related. In recent months BB have been silent on any improvements/changes for the coming season, so I guess it will be "business as usual" for winter 2022.
 

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The tanks have been there for a few months. What I'm referring to seems to have only just started in the last week or so. It may be related. In recent months BB have been silent on any improvements/changes for the coming season, so I guess it will be "business as usual" for winter 2022.
Like most resorts, BB are very much aware of online comments
Could be the Hut Run load will be lower ?
Remember that they sacked an instructor when she complained on line of the uphill climb to get to the pub :)
 

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But do they get money for the really big Capital items?

Clearly, LM has had some big money spent post bushfires.

But BB’s big items - the car parks, sealed road, the ‘new hotel’ are all 1-2 decades old now.

There’s the new ice-making system and small ‘real’ SM system - they’re not cheap but I’m not sure they equate to say a $5 million dam, for instance?

there’s also the obvious fact that the two smalls are totally Government owned and run - unlike the big 3 - so should receive more help.

I do know BB’s power system is expensive (gas turbine?), old fashioned and needs to be modernised. Maybe that’s the next big item for Vic Govt. to tackle after fixing the water supply?
I have heard rumours that Baw Baw will be given " the Mt. Buffalo treatment" and will be decommisioned as a ski resort.
S.W. Gippsland snow sports folk will be on the war path if that happens. Some of us city ski people won't
be impressed either.
 
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I have heard rumours that Baw Baw will be given " the Mt. Buffalo treatment" and will be decommisioned as a ski resort.
S.W. Gippsland snow sports folk will be on the war path if that happens. Some of us city ski people won't
be impressed either.
Death by deliberate neglect (defunding!) - an ugly wavering death if it’s true?

It would probably be ‘sold’ to the public as an environmental initiative.

It’s amazing, when there’s a $ to be saved by closing infrastructure in the bush, the Govt can’t wait to act.

When the environment requires new funding, it takes years, even decades…and often never happens (think wind power and solar on the Mtn - replacing gas?)

I hope these rumours are just that. I’m no LNP lover - but if they get in in Nov, they might install one of their Gippy mates to run the lifts…not sure if the Belgravia mob woul plan another tilt?

It’s all pretty bad - BB desperately need to to bottom snowmaking (even just ice-maker >0C variety?) to guarantee some T-B skiing. But management/Govt either can’t understand this principle or more likely, can’t/won’t allocate the funding.

Why drive 180-200km to ‘play’ at the bottom of run that’s virtually bare for 2/3 length? Crazy! (Unless you’re a pure sight see-er / toboganner?)
 

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They're selling season passes for this year (resort entry to LM /combined pass ) so we must make the most of it. Can't see LNP with a realistic chance in November, but who knows?
 
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They're selling season passes for this year (resort entry to LM /combined pass ) so we must make the most of it. Can't see LNP with a realistic chance in November, but who knows?
No I can’t see Guy getting up. He/Libs Ave very few few policies other banging on about Covid Lockdowns and cutting tax. The latter is arc-welded into their letterheads and the former is old hat now we’ve largely opened up - like most states, even WA.

Re season passes: a shame (a costly one for many) that the all-resort season pass won’t be available for yet another year. Let’s just milk the public dry, shall we? It’s terrible for those that scatter their wealth (patronage) across several hills.

In this respect, we are treated quite Baldy in Vic - when you compare what a parking (visitor) dollar buys you in NSW. Divide entry $ by ski-days and we Vic have some of the dearest snow access in the world. (Talking domestic tourism). :mad:

And then Tourism Vic will trumpet the ‘accessibility and affordability of Vic’s budget options’? o_O
 
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Also, state gov't (presumably) has spent a lot of money repairing the tourist road between Icy Ck and bb turn off. I can't see that this would have happened if there was a plan to close the resort. But after another bad season or two, who knows? Fingers crossed for a good season. I bought the pass, just being optimistic.
 

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Keep in mind the ALP Gummint in Vic. think skiing of all kinds
( even cheap skate BC XC skiing up Road No. 3 in Mansfield state forest .. whatever and where ever that is )
in general is for rich LNP voting toffs who drive Toorak tractors and use $100.00 bills to wipe their backsides .
The only reason any resorts were allowed to open in
Vic. over the past two winters here in Lockdown-i-stan is because someone knew someone who went to school with someone who skied and they had some influence over Dictator Dan, The Chief Health Officer and their inflexible autocratic decision making processes.
Yes skiing in NSW is far cheaper and I am renewing my annual concession pass for the KNP/ NPWS in NSW.
A day trip out to Charlotte pass on over snow transport device and back and car camping at Island Bend in early/Mid. Sept. could be fun.
 
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in general is for rich LNP voting toffs who drive Toorak tractors and use $100.00 bills to wipe their backsides .
The only reason any resorts were allowed to open in
Vic. over the past two winters here in Lockdown-i-stan is because someone knew someone who went to school with someone who skied and they had some influence over Dictator Dan, The Chief Health Officer and their inflexible autocratic decision making processes.
Yes skiing in NSW is far cheaper and I am renewing my annual concession pass for the KNP/ NPWS in NSW.
A day trip out to Charlotte pass on over snow transport device and back and car camping at Island Bend in Mid. Sept. could be fun.

Agreed! Skiers, know skiers, who know someone important! Yarda. Terrible really!

Just be careful with using oversnow T, it’s now $120 return but I think Charlotte may include OS with their accommodation packs and one-day lift deals.


Maybe someone here knows more about the deals. 75% of a Perisher day lift ticket price is really milking it.

But look me (& gang) up if you head up in first week of September. ⛷❄️
 

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I see from the Hut Roll cam that BB have fired up their slushie machine.

I think I will need to send a message to all the resort governing bodies and Baw Baw management pointing out that if they had offered the All-Resorts Pass this year, I would have been visiting Baw Baw midweek, but given the decision to make it single-resort only, I'm going to have to stick to just Hotham - which is unfortunate for the food vendors etc on the hill.
 

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Anyone got the text for those without a subscription?
Here it is:

'Resort owners allege the board used snow ploughs to block their staff from accessing Cascade Apartments

The owners of a Mt Baw Baw ski resort allege they were victimised and subject to unlawful discrimination.

Miles Proust

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May 14, 2022 - 3:45PM

Sunday Herald Sun




Cascade Apartments' owners Andrea and Andrew Braslis claim they've been discriminated against by Mt Baw Baw operators.



A Victorian ski resort has been embroiled in scandal amid claims of “favouritism” by the resort’s management and allegations snow ploughs were used to block access to a business.

Andrea and Andrew Braslis, who own and operate Cascade Apartments at Mt Baw Baw ski resort, allege they were victimised and subject to unlawful discrimination by the resort’s administration, Southern Alpine Resort Management Board, after whistleblowing on fraud allegations more than a decade ago.

In a claim filed with the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal in April last year, the couple allege the board used snow ploughs to block their staff from accessing Cascade Apartments.

Other allegations include Cascade Apartments’ employees were denied entry to the Alpine Hotel bar which was owned by the board and the resort’s owners played favourites among various hospitality and accommodation businesses.

The couple claim board members gave free gate entry and ski passes to their family and friends but didn’t allow others to do the same with the “unjust and inconsistent” treatment raised on numerous occasions to no avail.

A group of business owners were told the board “owns our land over winter” and can “do what they want” according to the couple’s VCAT claim.

The couple said the board also spent two years objecting to a permit which would allow them to open a cafe bar and were told to stop installing windows once it was under construction without reason.

According to the couple’s VCAT claim, they were subject to ongoing discrimination after they were the main whistleblowers during a fraud case brought against the board in 2011 which led to “negative findings”.

“The Applicants say that they have now been led to the Tribunal in an attempt to stop these issues which have never gone away and have again grown,” VCAT documents state.

“The Applicants say that these issues have affected their business, health and rights.”

The couple argued they had been discriminated against under the Equal Opportunity Act in relation to “social and economic disadvantage” and “different groups have different outcomes”.

But most of the submissions were struck out on Tuesday following a dismissal application by the board, with VCAT member Ian Scott finding the tribunal did not have jurisdiction to hear the claim.

Mr Scott also found claims of victimisation and discrimination were “misconceived” and “lacking in substance”.

The only surviving claim related to the couple’s allegation of unlawful discrimination when

the board closed road access forcing Ms Braslis, who is vision impaired, to leave her property.

Mr Scott found the board could contravene Section 45 of the Equal Opportunity Act by failing to make adjustments for a person with disability.

“I am not satisfied that the Respondent has discharged its burden in this regard as I am not persuaded that the surviving claim is absolutely hopeless regardless of how remote its prospect of success may or may not be,” Mr Scott said.

The matter will return to VCAT on May 31.'
 

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I think I will need to send a message to all the resort governing bodies and Baw Baw management pointing out that if they had offered the All-Resorts Pass this year, I would have been visiting Baw Baw midweek, but given the decision to make it single-resort only, I'm going to have to stick to just Hotham - which is unfortunate for the food vendors etc on the hill.

This is seriously a major pain compared to NSW where annual parks pass is available. I’d like to get to Buller, Hotham and Baw Baw this year, but the parking costs just add up and up making it not as feasible to do as many trips as I would like to be able to duck up for day half a day with the kids. If I had the sunk cost of a multi resort access/carpark pass they would see more of me and my $$!
 
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I don't know the ins and outs of it all vs NSW

But National Parks is very different to Parks VIC and the way the ski resorts operate. It also from memory used to be a lot more $$ for the seasonal Kosciusko pass in NSW back in my uni days it was unattainable but was lucky i worked for an employer on mtn so it was about $22 for the season
 

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Hi all,

Not sure where to post this so mods please delete or move if not the correct thread.

Trying to find some accommodation for early July but finding all websites relating to Baw Baw a bit clunky.
I am after something to comfortably accommodate a family of 5. Happy with a lodge but would want our own room with ensuite as our kids are on the younger side.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Kind regards
Justin
 
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