Snow Report Mt Buller 2019 - Trip Reports, Pics & Conditions

Alexg1687

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Complimentary oversnow for village drop off permit holders from the car parks to the village. Seems to be premised on those cars being parked below CSIR. Seems like a step in the right direction but not sure how it’ll work on Sunday afternoons when 10,000 other peope are waiting for cabs
 

djam

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Being as most will be on there own, just going down to pick up the car and drive it back to the village, hopefully that will make for a quicker pickup. The reason for the change, to make more car parks available for day visitors, near to the village shuttles. There will be a staircase installed soon, to connect the CSIR carpark to the road just above the toilet block in the skating rink area. The new car parking areas will extended all the way to the skills park area, where there will also be a new helipad made, as landing in carparks is often not possible any more.

Personally I'd like to see the skills park area, connected to the bottom end of Stirling road, to improve access to the village and redundancy, possibly making it a one way loop in winter. The cost to do this is substantial and I think for it to happen, would require Vic Roads to open their wallet or some other government body.

The various government bodies are all happy for Buller to provide massive financial benefits to the region, but little to none is given to the resort. Almost all funds come from Ratepayers and gate entry, so the resort has to be largely self funded from the few winter months it collects money.

On the other hand, Baw Baw and Lake Mountain received a combined $6.7 million (from memory) just to keep them open for one year (2017) as they run at a loss.
 
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snowgum

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Being as most will be on there own, just going down to pick up the car and drive it back to the village, hopefully that will make for a quicker pickup. The reason for the change, to make more car parks available for day visitors, near to the village shuttles. There will be a staircase installed soon, to connect the CSIR carpark to the road just above the toilet block in the skating rink area. The new car parking areas will extended all the way to the skills park area, where there will also be a new helipad made, as landing in carparks is often not possible any more.

Personally I'd like to see the skills park area, connected to the bottom end of Stirling road, to improve access to the village and redundancy, possibly making it a one way loop in winter. The cost to do this is substantial and I think for it to happen, would require Vic Roads to open their wallet or some other government body.

The various government bodies are all happy for Buller to provide massive financial benefits to the region, but little to none is given to the resort. Almost all funds come from Ratepayers and gate entry, so the resort has to be largely self funded from the few winter months it collects money.

On the other hand, Baw Baw and Lake Mountain received a combined $6.7 million (from memory) just to keep them open for one year (2017) as they run at a loss.

Hi djam,

I'm only partly kidding here: if Buller management got even just a small cut of the total Police takings on the Mt B road and per helps the Melba from Yarra Glen, the balance sheet would look much healthier.

Alternately operate the number plate scanner in summer and winter - both Buller & Stirling, charge a tenner a day (much cheaper than the beach!) and rake in the dollars.

Just need the Minister for Envionment to approve the latter idea. Hell they used to charge to enter many Vic NPs in summer, while in NSW they always have!

The whole idea of expecting the (barely) four 'winter' months to pay for 12 months' operation is nuts. All the Bayside & ocean-facing councils would if the reverse logic was applied.
 

Timmossy

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Hi djam,

I'm only partly kidding here: if Buller management got even just a small cut of the total Police takings on the Mt B road and per helps the Melba from Yarra Glen, the balance sheet would look much healthier.

Alternately operate the number plate scanner in summer and winter - both Buller & Stirling, charge a tenner a day (much cheaper than the beach!) and rake in the dollars.

Just need the Minister for Envionment to approve the latter idea. Hell they used to charge to enter many Vic NPs in summer, while in NSW they always have!

The whole idea of expecting the (barely) four 'winter' months to pay for 12 months' operation is nuts. All the Bayside & ocean-facing councils would if the reverse logic was applied.
Couple of years ago they were carrying out surveys to see the reception in charging an amount for summer access.

I don’t have an issue with it as I use the trails heaps, however for others they may see the whole idea of it insulting and just go elsewhere on principal.
 

snowgum

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Sadly this is exactly what would happen.

Stirling would actually be the big summer money spinner.

It would need number plate scanning/tilling to work but having do e a bit of 4 WDing over the years, inc. Stirling /Gtr Mansfield region, I don't think a fee of around $10 per say weekend/entry, or maybe $50 per summer/Autumn for any/all Victorian crown land is a unfair - providing all money raised is actually spent on related facilities, like track maintenance, camp grounds, pit toilets, signed and winter gates. So broadly along the lines of other access fees, like fishing or hunting licences.

...as it stands, This 'poverty' ( fix only when it's dire) model really lets all users down but if we won't pay a small contribution in this user pay era, maybe 'we're' the real loser??
 

wolly

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The new Toboggan run is taking shape, complete with hay bales to stop you down the bottom
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Jacko4650

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Been watching what is happening to the Blue bullet on the webcams for some months now. In parallel, watching the build of new lifts in New Zealand so I can't get over the sheer number of tradies and engineering going into this build in Oz. What are they building? ie: they pulled down half a big building and are now building other buildings at the top - more than one??
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CarveMan

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Been watching what is happening to the Blue bullet on the webcams for some months now. In parallel, watching the build of new lifts in New Zealand so I can't get over the sheer number of tradies and engineering going into this build in Oz. What are they building? ie: they pulled down half a big building and are now building other buildings at the top - more than one??
mtbuller-bluff-view01.jpg
That will be used to store the chairs overnight / summer etc.
 
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Timmossy

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Will be interisting to see how things pan out now that RMB have sub-contracted out the resorts marketing to BSL. Not much of a conflict of interest here......

Non BSL businesses / summer activities are really going to thrive.

RMB should be delivering to the public, not the private pockets of the lift co.
 

djam

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the old BB mid building is going to be a food place. Timber floor currently
going in.

The chairs store under the lift stations on this new chair, they pack together
to make them fit.
 

snowgum

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Sorry in advance here but have to ask about CH Rd widening.

Oops...part#2.

Just how far is the Road going to be widened? And why? Is it part of the long-mooted greater alternate access /one way system? Or just a short widening on the section near the skating rink?

We all know the road isn't bad to the quarry but it's always been pretty rough and narrow (4wd only) from there on to Howqua Gap. So this is an interesting development?

DELWP are suitably vague with the reasons...
 
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FixedGrip

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My understanding is they are only widening the road up to the helipad point to improve access, and possibly expand parking capability somewhat.
 

snowgum

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I read somewhere that they are putting more overnight parking up there.

That makes sense, they can plonk quite a few cars there - out of the way of the daytripper Warriors.

I presume RM will seal this section then? It will make for a quicker MtnB return from Corn Hill - which is rather handy.

As for the expanded road system, I assume RM are still waiting for environmental approval?
 

snowgum

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yes, will be sealed before winter, widened to allow two way traffic and parking along
most of the road, looking at around 220 extra car spaces with these changes :)

Wow, that must be worth hundreds $K if not a mill or two to the resort in peak periods. Just in parking. Then flow on from more beds on beds, lift tickets, ski school, rental, food & drink.

Some folks just won't go if they have to park below and wait for a bus.
 

Madski

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Will be interisting to see how things pan out now that RMB have sub-contracted out the resorts marketing to BSL. Not much of a conflict of interest here......

Non BSL businesses / summer activities are really going to thrive.

RMB should be delivering to the public, not the private pockets of the lift co.

I reckon this is a great move as RMB will be saving on wages that can be put back into other services. They can deal with the non BSL businesses via the contract and set KPI’s.

It’s good to see RMB actually get on and doing things parking, larger village square, app for taxis etc
 

djam

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I reckon this is a great move as RMB will be saving on wages that can be put back into other services. They can deal with the non BSL businesses via the contract and set KPI’s.

It’s good to see RMB actually get on and doing things parking, larger village square, app for taxis etc

BSL still have to get approval for any changes, no money is paid to do the extra work to BSL and
the RMB save on labour. BSL save time by not doing the work between two bodies, i.e. less
meetings etc. It's a one year trial to start with. All summer, Stirling etc get the same marketing
as is has been with the current arrangement.
 

Amelia1810

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Just on the Buller website and saw this. Encouraging weekend snowplayers to park at the bottom for a discounted price (vs parking at the village for $46.40 online).
Apologies if already been posted.
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nezumi

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Just on the Buller website and saw this. Encouraging weekend snowplayers to park at the bottom for a discounted price (vs parking at the village for $46.40 online).
Apologies if already been posted.
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In order to sell this service more, I think they need to highlight whether or not people would still need to carry chains. If day trippers can avoid the cost of carrying chains as well as saving some bikkies on the entry, it looks good!
 
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Jacko4650

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New Chairlift towers up, bullwheels on, cable being installed, snow piling up below: what are the odds of Mt Buller gunning for the honour of first tracks in 2019? Afterall, somebody has to test it so why not sneak in a slide (in front of cameras of course)? Even better if there were a few natural snowflakes around; like next week???? Imagine the PR value.
 

djam

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they started the two slurpee machines late this year, because of the lift works. Last
weeks weather gave the piles some headwinds, maybe a big fall late this week might
change the position. I know the builders, Whitehorse, Kooroora, Bella Vista and some
smaller jobs will be hoping otherwise.

BB1 cable ready to splice, some electrics yet to be completed, the chairs (29?) are
sitting on top of the supermarket. Expect BB1 will be ready well before time.
 
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ski2much

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A few picks from this morning. Sorry for no better pics - the young lad went for a walk and took the photos.

Nice new chairs.. looks like we did not get heated seats?

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