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Discussion in 'Mt Buller' started by D-eye, Jan 1, 2019.
Stay off the home trail to carpark.
Summit and Koflers look nice...
Though there probably isn’t enough snow for Howqua and Summit into Koflers.
That is the saddest cam at Buller, cos it faces West and shows you there's absolutely nothing in terms of hills out West. It's the magnet for freezing rain. There are more hills in Perth than there are West of Buller.
Adding abom, skyline and fox for the weekend.
well that was a lot of suspense for not a lot.
I’m very surprised and a little disappointed that wombat isn’t running. Looking at the snow cams, I’ve seen it open with much, MUCH less.
It'll be the access trail that's the issue I would imagine. And they wouldnt have had enough time to make and farm enough snow to use to fill gaps in the access trail, hence it not being open.
Yep that’s what I heard.
That's what the issue usually is.
There’s probably still a chance we could see Wombat open on Sunday.
Give it just a bit more time for down the bottom.
Ahhhh yes ye old access trail situation in lean times.
First time I ever skied Buller, LBS was half mud (or close to it lol). And yet Wombat not announced? Queues are gonna be long for those 3 chairs.
I remember I think it was two QBWs ago, when it was Baldy, Skyline and Bourke St.
Skyline’s queue went 50m up the hill or so. Biggest I have ever seen there.
On the plus side, many won’t go unless Wombat opens.
People actually ski QBW? I thought it was all about
I figure my Saturday will go something like this,
Ski Bourke st 3 times, shakey knees twice, coffee at snow pony, shakey knees another 5 times, baldy once to get to skyline twice or until bored, lunch at the lodge then start drinking
No more skiing after that.
Sunday- repeat and pray for wombat
Out of interest does the mid-station ever get used on Wombat? Didn't see it used once last year. Always wondered why it's there and never seen it used. Assuming it is actually a mid-station of course and not just a hut adjacent to the lift...
Previously used for loading before snowmaking, when there was not snow down the very bottom.
Ah ok, which is kind of why I asked. If the problem is the access trail at the bottom then couldn't they just load at mid-station like they do on Grimus when the snow's disappeared lower down? It's not exactly a lot higher up at the mid-station mind you.
Probably wouldn’t be a lot of snow at the mid load either.
TBH I think they are trying to build a bit of a base down there, before opening, particularly with rain in the forecast.
I reckon the mid loads at Buller were set up more for end of season melt line, than early season snow line. Remember lots of early October loads on Fed, Grimus etc.
They have to run it quite a bit slower as fixed grip chairs are a lot harder to bump coming through on a mid station compared with coming around a bull wheel. It actually results in a slower trip than from the bottom.
One of the downsides of moving the bottom loads farther down hill
The Bull and Fed T bars bottom loads were a fair way up the hill from the current chairs, particularly Fed.
Mid load on Wombat chair is awful. The chair runs extremely slow and I still have memories from around 10 years ago of 30+ minute wait to in line for a chair after each run on a busy Saturday.
I wouldnt go anywhere near Wombat when it's on mid-load, thankfully I cant remember having this happen in the past 10 years, the snowmaking system for the bottom section has been set up pretty good to be able to 1 - generate enough snow and 2 - farm it for the majority of the season. In the past couple of seasons the load trail was the last part of the run to melt.
Yeah cool, and the runs were also a lot shorter and it was shit.
"One of the downsides"
Are you actually @mx_boarder ?
That **** wouldnt do 3 runs.
I stand by my statement.
what is happening here
The portable snow machine is pretty clever IMO. They can move it back to heli flat late season if lower bourke st starts to burn out.
Is that the new second snowmachine that was sitting next to ski school at easter, the original was still up at heli flat I am pretty sure?
but why is it there . I cannot tell if it is going up hill or down hill
yes, the portable, about half the capacity of the fixed unit, above BB1.
too make snow on the toboggan run.
but the "boggan run ' has its own snowmakers
This thing will cake that area in a few days.
So does Bourke Street.. this is just the icing on the cake
220 cubic metres in a 24 hr period. less than 10 cubic metres an hour
220 in 24 is a fair amount of daiquiri’s
and it's got to be cold enough to use the guns whereas they can pump ice out of that box at +10C or something cant they?
Any temp I think
So the snowmaker is owned by BSL. My understanding is the toboggan slope is managed by RMB. So do the lift company hire the snowmaker to RMB.? Or is all that too complex to think about
I don’t even pack skis half the time.
My understanding RMB and BSL go 50/50 on the cost of snowmaking. It’s in the RMB annual report.
on the whole mountain or just the toboggan areas?
It’s the Ron Jeremy of snow makers.
More like the Peter North.......