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Snow Report Mt Buller 2020 - Trip Reports, Pics & Conditions

Discussion in 'Mt Buller' started by djam, Jan 9, 2020.

  1. djam

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    guess we should move forward to 2020.

    Looks like the road will be open again from tomorrow.

    Property owners and lodge members etc that haven't cleared around their respective properties should get on to it ASAP. There are a good number with long grass and so, under/next to wooden decks and the like, some abutting forest. They don't stand a chance
    if the fires hit us.
     
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  2. wolly

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    I know Mansfield Council inspect properties in the district and issue "clean up notices" and if the property isnt cleaned up the council sends in contractors to do the work at the expense of the land owner and they are fined also. Could this type of thing be initiated by the RMB to make Buller a safer place.
     
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    Surely they won’t open it tomorrow, given the extreme fire danger.
     
  5. djam

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    yes, it will stay closed while the State of Disaster Declaration remains, which has
    been extended for another 48 hours.
     
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    A few minutes ago:

    9 JANUARY 2020

    UPDATE ON FIRE RISK


    This is the Mt Buller & Mt Stirling update for Thursday, 9 January 2020.

    Tomorrow, Friday 10 January 2020, is forecast to be a day of elevated fire risk and a Total Fire Ban has been declared. There is a high chance of dry lightning in the afternoon, and gusty S to SW winds are forecast

    In relation to the fires near the Resorts; DELWP crews have undertaken aerial imaging and repel crews have been flown into the spot fires to assess for hot spots. There is currently no running edge and aircraft will bomb any hot spots detected and continue to work in the area.

    Extensive containment lines have been established along with improved road and helipad access so the area can be quickly accessed if needed, particularly on Friday when the fire risk is expected to increase. The sky and air are less smoky today, however we have been advised that we should expect smoke to persist.

    The Resorts remain closed to the public while the Victorian Government’s State of Disaster Declaration remains in force. While the Resorts are closed to the public, Mirimbah Gate Entry is manned to provide public information and control access.

    A Community Information Session has been arranged for Monday, 13/1/20 at 5:30PM at the Mansfield Performing Arts Centre. Click here for details.

    We are very grateful for all the work being undertaken by emergency services and DELWP - Forest Fire Management which is the control agency for our fires.

    The next update will be sent on the weekend.
     
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    Nice to see some damp webcams.
     
  9. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Get up there and spend some cash people:

    11 JANUARY 2020

    UPDATE ON FIRE RISK


    We are pleased to advise that the anticipated thunderstorm didn’t eventuate yesterday, and Mt Buller & Mt Stirling received a helpful soaking of rain from about 7pm last night.

    While fires are still burning up towards Mt Buffalo, it’s been a beautiful day at Buller & Stirling today (see pictures below), just the way we all like it. The mild weather forecast means that fire risk around Buller & Stirling has reduced to more normal levels.

    If the State of Disaster is lifted from midnight tonight, then we anticipate Incident Control approving Mt Buller re-opening to visitors and stakeholders on Monday. This may be subject to conditions. Mt Stirling will remain closed until further notice given it is a gateway into the Mansfield State Forest and Alpine National Park.

    There are many people throughout Victoria who have lost their homes, crops, livestock, sheds, fences and feed. There are various funds that have been established to help, with many generous donations from across Australia and around the world including from our partner Alterra Mountain Company in the USA. Alterra provides the IKON and Mountain Collective lift passes and has donated $50k to the NSW and Victorian recovery funds.

    While businesses at Buller, Stirling, Merrijig, Mansfield, Jamieson, Eildon and the surrounding areas have not been directly impacted by the fires, many have been indirectly affected by having fewer customers, having to write-off stock, or simply through lost shifts. These people also need help for their businesses to continue, and the best way is for visitors and stakeholders to start returning to the area. Buy a coffee, have a meal, stay a night, stock up on local produce and support those within our local community. We are starting to think of how we can encourage visitors to return quickly, and welcome any suggestions from our stakeholders. These can be sent to info@mtbuller.com.au.

    The next update will be sent on Sunday.

    Mark Bennetts
    CEO Mt Buller Mt Stirling Resort Management


    For live images, refer to the Mt Buller and Mt Stirling web cams at:
    https://www.mtbuller.com.au/Summer/resort-info/web-cams
    https://www.mtstirling.com.au/plan/live-cams/

    For updates on fire activity, please refer to-
    www.emergency.vic.gov.au
    • VicEmergency Hotline - freecall 1800 226 226
    • VicEmergency app
    • Facebook or Twitter (#vicfires)
    • Tune in to ABC Local Radio, commercial and designated community radio stations, or Sky News TV
     
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  10. wolly

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    Mirimbah Store had also been affected. Now only open Fri. Sat and Sunday but drop in say hi. Grab a còffee and something to eat. Remember Fuel is available 24 hrs a day 7 days a week.
     
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    Very glad that the threat level has dropped for now. Hopefully that will be as bad as it gets.

    On another topic, is it just me that feels like they've made a huge mistake with the design of the new dam and all of the water is going to slide out of the right hand side and back down into Boggy Creek? Or maybe the webcam's not straight...
     
  12. Jacko4650

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    Yes, I check out this webcam every day and keep thinking the same. I constantly try to get my brain to assist by comparing the angle of buildings, ski lift pylons and so on to figure out natural levels, but it still looks like the water will run out the bottom right hand side as you say. Perhaps they will add that dam wall "later"?
     
  13. djam

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    They are still building up the right hand side, from the earth removed in the middle. Cut on the
    left, fill on the right.
     
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    HAPPY NOW
     
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    Much better. Pond skim should be epic this year... LOL
     
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    Dam done. Might come in handy for firefighting efforts in coming seasons once full!

     
  17. GS

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    I guess it will have a giant liner?

    Paint some lane markers and they can hold swimming comps up there.
     
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    Can't see the plug?
     
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    I put my level on the computer screen and water is definitely going to tip out one side.
     
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    Obviously a dodgy level that needs recalibration
     
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    Is it full yet?
    :out:
     
  22. djam

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    Buller has ...

    Downhill biking
    Cross Country biking
    Road biking and,
    now the new velodrome :rolleyes:
     
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    Whilst great for reliability it is a bit of a blight on the landscape unfortunately, and I am no greeny by any means, would happily slip a few bob for those excavators to slip down Bull Run bowl on their way home for some summer grooming.
     
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  24. CarveMan

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    Don't need an excavator, just a pruning saw.

    https://www.amazon.com.au/Bosch-0600861940-Cordless-Integrated-Lithium-Ion/dp/B07CZG5MQD/ref=asc_df_B07CZG5MQD/

    And yes I do agree I have mixed feelings about the visual impact of the dam.
     
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  25. skimax

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    Should fill it then sell floating accommodation apartments on top ;)
     
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    Finish days skiing with apartment ground floor level with top of dam. Wake up after a night of heavy snow making and climb 30 feet of vert. Up to piste level :eek:
     
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    Mt Buller waterfront apartments, ski in.... climb out
     
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    Just saw a Facebook story on snowmaking Standard from top to bottom. Good news -- bottom bit of Standard before the sharp turn was a bit gnarly last season.
     
  29. MickM

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    Looks big cos it is big!







    Yes snowmaking going down Standard makes me very happy.

     
  31. MickM

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    That will take a while to fill. Will it have any impact this year?
     
  32. CarveMan

    CarveMan Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    I seem to remember reading somewhere that it will take all year to fill so this year it might not do a whole lot.
     
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  33. djam

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    They expect it could be filled before Winter or at least in early Winter, new pumps will up the fill rate.
     
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    Apologies for the dumb questions, I have only been to Buller when it is covered in snow...

    Given the location of the dam, how will it actually fill? Is there a creek that flows into it?? Is Boggy Creek actually a creek? Will they pump water into it from the Delatite?
     
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    Water will be pumped up from Boggy Creek - which is actually a creek - where there is a small holding dam down below the resort boundary.
     
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    You learn something new every day... I didn't know there was a dam on Boggy Creek
     
  37. Bogong

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    I haven't seen it, but I'm led to understand that it's very small and that calling it a diversion weir might be more appropriate than calling it a dam.
     
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  38. CarveMan

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    Yes I’m led to believe the same thing.
     
  39. Vermillion

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    I figured it would be a weir with a small pumphouse to ensure there's consistent depth for the pump to operate. The pump that puts water back into the snowflake dam. I reckon I know where this is, it's not far below the rope/boundary in a small clearing that flattens out a little bit. I reckon i've skied past it before, there are a couple of tracks near it (not runs) but i'm not sure what they're called. Actually glad this topic came up because i've never thought about it, even though I know they pump water back up from Boggy Ck. The fact i've never actually seen it and knowing it must be on Boggy Ck means that i'm either thinking the wrong location, or more worryingly i've skied over it, as I only ski that area when there's bulk snow.
     
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    Power was out for most of the day for some reason, or was it, or at least most of the cam images not updated from 5pm yesterday including ours, except for 2 BSL ones this morning at 6 AM.
     
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    yep power out from dinner time saturday till 3 pm sunday, a huge localised storm hit, no power , no internet , no mobiles no nothing, it affected lots of areas in North East Victoria. Mansfield , Eildon, Yea, Yarck , Kevington, just to name a few
     
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    You could use the phone if you selected a nice high position (not that high really, but outside),
    with 3G, expect it was getting connected from far away. I think all the batteries for the Buller
    towers went flat sometime during Saturday night before the power returned Sunday afternoon.
    Plenty of generators ran during the blackout.

    Up at Spurs I could get 4G from somewhere.

    The phone system (both landlines and mobiles) should really have generator backup.
     
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    Hope I can help...
    • The dam is tilty because the mountain is on an angle perpendicular to sea level so if it was straight the water would fall out
    • It gets filled multiple ways 1) at night when it cools water vapour condenses from the atmosphere 2) there is a natural spring which flows into the southern side 3) run-off from showers
     
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    Mate you gon be waiting a while for it to be full if you're relying on atmospheric water vapour.
     
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    Looking less jarring with topsoil on the wall:

     
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    Transport update: https://talkbox.impactapp.com.au/communications/view/Email/WtbUd5k43agUnEMrS0YDSQ==/pDyh

    Update on RMB’s transport arrangements for the 2020 season

    TravelSafe was awarded a long-term transport contract in 2019 through public tender. It had numerous issues in its first season which resulted in significant problems with service levels. MMBL provided some services from mid-July to help improve service levels. TravelSafe also learned and improved throughout the season. The perennial issue of long queues in the Village Square was largely eliminated, the new SnowPlay Express service performed well, and improvements were made to the transport app.

    Further discussions with stakeholders, TravelSafe and MMBL throughout 2019 resulted in a consensus on further transport changes to increase options for visitors and make overnight visits more affordable. This included repositioning valet taxis as a ride-share service, allowing a limited number of taxi operators to provide on-demand services, and allowing commercial accommodation houses, lodge managers and apartment managers to provide courtesy transfers to/from the overnight carparks for their guests.

    Therefore TravelSafe will continue to deliver carpark shuttles, village shuttles and SnowPlay Express services in 2020, and has partnered with BusFleet to provide and manage vehicles and drivers. The 5 low-rider buses from 2019 have been refurbished and 3 new low-riders will be added for 2020. The racks on the village shuttles will be improved for 2020.

    The ride-share service was offered for separate tender in November 2019, with MMBL and TravelSafe invited to participate. The tender focused on service and cost which were equally weighted. After a lengthy evaluation, the contract has been awarded to TravelSafe in partnership with BusFleet. BusFleet will provide all on-road services with a fleet of at least 20 vehicles and up to 8 more if required. TravelSafe will provide the associated technology and booking services, encourage customers to book their downward trip prior to arrival, advise when their downward vehicle has been despatched, and advise when there are any service delays.

    The RMB believes that TravelSafe learned a lot from its first season at Mt Buller, which coupled with its formal arrangement with BusFleet, the changes outlined above, and active management from the RMB will result in a much improved service for stakeholders and visitors in 2020 and beyond.

    Expressions of Interest will be released in the next few weeks for people interested in providing on-demand taxi services, and for commercial accommodation houses, lodge managers and apartment managers interested in providing courtesy transfers to/from the overnight carparks for their guests.
     
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    I dunno mate I take pretty long showers.
     
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    Obviously a huge cost when you consider all the earthmoving equipment in place for such a long period of time. More complicated than getting a few excavators and digging a hole! I've enjoyed watching the progress and appreciate some of the different cameras angles posted by a few people. I will also enjoy watching it fill up.
     
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