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MULHAUSER SPUR ACCESS

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by Ubiquitous Steve, Feb 29, 2008.

  1. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    UPDATE TO FOLLOW IN NEXT FEW WEEKS WHEN I BECOME MORE PROFICIENT
    WITH THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY!

    2 WD ACCESS NEARLY TO CAMP MULHAUSER ALONG ABOUT 4KM. OF REASONABLE FOREST TRACK FROM SNOWY LOGGING ROAD(intersection at old logging coupe;highest point of logging road before it descends to first creek) LOGGING COUPE IS TEN KMS ROUGHLY IN FROM BITUMEN OF OMEO HIGHWAY(BOGONG SADDLE)

    JUST BEFORE CAMP MULHAUSER(OLD HUT RUIN) IS A STEEP HILL;4WD NECESSARY IN WET/WINTER . POSSIBLE IN DRY WITH 2WD. BUT PLACE TO TURN AROUND AT BOTTOM OF HILL.

    ALWAYS BRING CHAINSAW AND SPARE CHAIN(VERY SHARP) AS TREES FALL ALONG SNOWY LOGGING ROAD. CROW BAR IS GOOD TOO. WITH 4WD BRING SNIG CHAINS TO PULL BIG OBSTACLES OUT OF WAY TOO.

    CAMP MULHAUSER GOOD CAMP SITE WATCH NO TREES DIRECTLY OVERHEAD.
    BRING IN WATER FROM FIRST BRIDGE ON SNOWY LOGGING RD.ABOUT 1KM IN FROM OMEO HIGHWAY.

    NO PICTURES YET OR PHOTOS COS NOT CAPABLE OF MUCH YET.

    FOOT TRACK ABOVE C.MUL ABOUT 1 KM. TO LONG SPUR TRACK.DONOT TAKE 4WD ABOVE CAMPSITE AS ONLY FOOT TRACK AND YOU WILL GET STUCK IN 4WD QUICK!

    FOOT TRACK WELL DEFINED AND PLEASANT WALK WITH STUNNING VIEWS INTO SPACE.CDMA AND NEXT G WILL WORK AS YOU CLIMB OUT OF CAMPSITE.

    ALLOW 2&HALF HOURS TO CLEVE COLE HUT;ALL IN PROTECTION OF SNOW GUMS.
     
  2. Bogong

    Bogong Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Well the first thing we do is buy poor Steve a new keyboard.
    The poor blokes Caps Lock button is obviously stuck on. [​IMG]

    Seriously, thanks for the information and welcome to our strange little world. [​IMG]
     
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  3. SimonInAustralia

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    ...second thing is to show Steve how to post in the correct forum within the site.
     
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  4. trappers

    trappers Safety not guaranteed Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah this is not the correct forum it should probably be in BC where the greenies will kill him [​IMG]
     
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  5. Bogong

    Bogong Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Trappers, there aren't many Greenies left on the backcountry forum these days. [​IMG]

    I think Wolvy had most of them shot. [​IMG]
     
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  6. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks for posting Steve.

    Useful info.

    Backtrack in BC posts to see lots more on this topic ;-}
     
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  8. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    SIA, did you get to do that recce in this area that you were planning?
     
  9. positron

    positron Hard Yards Endless Winter

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    Or a 240 Volvo. [​IMG]
     
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  10. SimonInAustralia

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    Not yet, has taken some time getting my 4WD Campervan (Landcruiser Bushcamper - Troop Carrier with high fibreglass roof) ready to go...took a while to get the turbo fitted, and then had to remove the bullbar/winch to lessen the weight for cheaper rego costs each year. Had some problems with the bullbar mounts being twisted a little, so a mechanic is sorting that out, and putting some larger/wider tyres and wheels on it, should get it back this weekend.

    Might head down from Canberra to Corryong on Saturday for a MTB ride with a friend, I think it is called Tiger Trail...up Mount Youngal, along the ridgeline, and then drops down into Khancoben.

    If I do that on Saturday, then while I'm down that way I'll probably head in to do the planned reccy around Mount Bogong. Will drive in from the West and check the winter access routes in from that side, then check Mullhauser Spur, and come out on the Eastern side towards Omeo Highway.
     
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  11. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    With chains and attitude ;-}
     
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  12. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Mulhauser access ok as of 2/3/08 all way from bogong saddle to Camp Mulhauser.southern end of snowy log rd i hear is clear.
     
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    Are mountain bikes allowed on the trails from Camp Mulhauser up to Mount Bogong?

    I assume they are not, as it is a walking track, but couldn't find any mention of it on the Parks Vic website.
     
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    Correct. MTB's cannot be used on designated walking tracks within National Parks.
     
  15. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Mulhauser spur access is outside ALPINE np. ACCESS from BIG RIVER SADDLE is meant to be good
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Alpine NP BOUNDARY is west of Mt.MULHAUSER
     
  17. SimonInAustralia

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    So...is there much walking track in state forest from Camp Mulhauser towards Bogong, before you get to the NP boundary? And is the NP boundary fenced/marked on the walking track?

    Is MTB riding on a walking track in state forest allowed?
     
  18. Bogong

    Bogong Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    There are no restrictions in state forest, you can do whatever you like. [​IMG]

    The forest/park boundary is marked on every map of the area, even the obselite VicMap ones.
     
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  19. SimonInAustralia

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    So, is the Alpine NP boundary further towards Mount Bogong from Camp Mulhauser, and therefore the walking track is in state forest up until that boundary, meaning I could ride in some of the way?

    If so, any idea how far I could ride from Camp Mulhauser until I get to the boundary, and is the Alpine NP boundary marked on the walking track?
     
  20. Bogong

    Bogong Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    PV has a weird system of "official" walking tracks and unofficial ones. No one quite understands the system used to decide this. But Mulhauser Spur is an unofficial track in the sense that PV pretends that it doesn't exist [​IMG], so it is unlikely that there will be a sign on the state forest/park border.

    However, just do what you like, as long as it doesn't affect others. Things are very informal around there. There is a one in a million chance that anyone will notice, even then it is extremely unlikely you will be fined, unless you are rude or arrogant.
     
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    positron Hard Yards Endless Winter

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    There is a sign when you cross over into Nat Park. Just ride it, they allow horses up there....
     
  22. Ubiquitous Steve

    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Riding in along Long Spur to top(all most)of MT MULHAUSER should be good as it is a 4wd track.Foot track along to CLEVE COLE there after is only foot or horse or may be difficult MT.BIKE. Certainly MT bike along SNOWY LOG RD and MULHAUSER TRACK to CAMP MULHAUSER would be quite easy. NOTE WATCH FOR CUT PLANT STEMS.STAY IN WHEEL RUTS!
     
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    Steve, I think I met you at Cleve Cole a few months back....didn't break your skis did you.....? We were the two dodgy blokes in their early 20's...
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes i broke GTS.FISCHER waxing telemark skis. Been abusing them for years. Skied into dip in wlking track just short of Cleve Cole Hut. But had a good day over on Hooker Plateau and Mt.Bogong before hand.Wos happening this season? I may see you at Camp Mulhauser or at C/C.in JUNE/JULY.
     
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    Will see you there for sure dude. The other guy I was with now has a 4wd, so Mulhauser it is. That way we can lug in even more junk than normal.

    If the white stuff in falling on Queens Bday like last year, I will be there...otherwise July for sure...

    Nick (the hairy one)
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Some distances from Bogong Saddle for those comming up the Hume Highway from Melb.via Wodonga.(taking the Tallangatta/Albury T/F.
    Red Rooster(Tallangatta T/F) 110Km.KFC(East Wodonga) 107Km.
    Dartmouth T/F on Murray Valley Highway 81.5Km. Lockhart Gap 65.6Km. Lockhart Gap Rd and Omeo HWY 56.5kM. Camping Area 51.6 Km.ESKDALE 45.8Km Mitta Mitta INT/Airport 32.4Km Dartmouth T/F 30.9Km Trappers Gap T/F 30.4Km MITTA MITTA 28Km. Granite Flat 18.7Km Hollowway T/F 16.3Km.(end of tar) Chestnuts Camping Area 14.1Km Last Farm House(phone)Bitumen resumes8.9Km
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Lightening Ck Picnic Ground is 6.3km from Bogong Saddle and that last section is a nice bit of sealed road sweeping up the hill,
     
  28. SimonInAustralia

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    The Omeo Highway isn't really much of a highway down that end, very twisty/turny, and unsealed/dirt.

    I'm still not convinced that it is better for me to go in that way, or up Eskdale Spur via Mount Beauty. I think that driving in would be a lot quicker via Mount Beauty to Camp Gap(?) carpark for Eskdale Spur access, and the trail in from where the car would be parked seems a lot shorter, though a lot steeper than Long Spur.

    Have to try them both out in winter and see which I prefer.

    I had a good bath a couple of times just upstream from Lightning Creek campground, though it was a little chilly, have to get a water heater/pump/shower hooked up to my car radiator for winter.
     
  29. Graeme

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    one difference, Simon, is that in bad weather there is still places to ski around Cleve Cole Hut, when conditions might be such that heading up top from Michel Hut would be unwise. In other circumstances Michel Hut is closer to the main action though.
     
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    Yep, agreed, not much cover from the weather on the Michell Hut side, pretty exposed that whole side.

    Where is OK to ski in bad weather near Cleve Cole Hut...that area out the front door of the hut?
     
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    Ubiquitous Steve Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Only 7.4Km of unsealed highway before Bogong Saddle on Omeo Highway. Half of which has been improved and has no holes or
    corrugations. They appear to be going to seal it soon. 15 Km from there to Camp Mulhauser which is a heap better than 4X4 Access from Trappers Gap to Base of Eskdale Spur or on towards Granite Flat.
     
  32. Ziggy

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    From which direction? Mitta Mitta?
     
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  33. Mr Bent Knee

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    Simon, there is some of the Mt's best deep pow pow tree gully skiing within 10 mins of the hut. Walking out takes a fair bit longer, as in twice as long as Cairn Gully if the snow if waist deep, as it is when you should be skiing it. Or boarding, if your into that kind of thing....

    Look at the map in the hut and find escarpment chutes. Head nth wst (?) along the map and see the treeless hidden gullies...

    I can't believe I just gave away those gems....most people probaly know them anyway....They are the place to go while you ae waiting out the big storm at Cleve Cole. Two days of Wotan action, then the rest up top....
     
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    Some ideas...

    [​IMG]
     
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  35. SimonInAustralia

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    Thanks for that, I have a (blurry) photo of the hut map, so can see where you are talking about.
     
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    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]
     
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    thanks, MBK - I knew the area to start looking for the goods, but I haven't been there yet in those conditions - hopefully 2008, late August trip chalked in.
     
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    NOT tree run or haunted as VSG has indicated....

    What you need to do is kinda of a really low (south) Howman's Traverse...you will be rewarded.

    I said up there in a post that you head north west from the hut. Ignore that, especially you GPS users, since the real direction is east, which has absolutley nothing to do with north west at all! What on earth was I talking about! Astounding!

    Righty o....
     
  39. Ziggy

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    Senior's moment? ;-}
     
  40. Graeme

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    um...here was I thinking you meant NW from Escarpment Chutes rather than from the hut, MBK. The chutes as marked is where I would have started looking in the right conditions, but your post got me thinking about the gullies leading into Wotan Creek on the map.
     
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    Well Graeme, let's give it that meaning then, because that makes sense...perhaps that was what I meant...? Farked if I know. But yes, they are the gullies of destruction....I have some pics, but you should check them out for yourselves.
     
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    Yes only short distance of gravel road comming south from Granite Flat and some of that has been fine tuned! Note access down Snowy Log Rd. blocked about 2and half Kms from Mulhauser Track turn off comming in from Big River Saddle end(comming from sthn section of Snowy Log Rd.(as of Easter Monday) Long spur 4wd track and Big River RD. are pretty good except for a couple trees that can be driven around. Access via Snowy Log Rd from Bogong Saddle to Mulhauser T/F is very good.MULHAUSER TRACK to camp Mulhee is superb and walking track to top gate(top of Long spur) is excellent! Also Dunstans Log Rd to Lightening creek appears to have been freshly graded. Cheers!
     
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    Blocked by fallen trees i mean.
     
  44. Ziggy

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    Thanks Steve.
     
  45. Ian

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    I just heard on the grapevine that this access method will be closed this winter, bad luck guys...

    In fact the whole mountain will be shut during August, some hotshot VIPs doing some ski testing, better stick to Baw Baw...
     
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    WTF...you serious?
     
  47. iGlenn

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    Even taking into account the confusion with daylight savings, Ian's poor attempt at an April Fools Day joke is still mistimed. [​IMG]
     
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    I suppose I should be used to it, seeing it is my birthday tomorrow.
     
  49. Ziggy

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    Boom tish.
     
  50. Ian

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    No, I'm deadly serious...

    We're mapping soot deposition and we can't have anyone disturbing the snow surface for the first two weeks in August...

    Especially the nice powder gullys just south of Cleve Cole hut...
     
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