my garden hose....

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  1. Biggy

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    hypothetically, if i lived in jyndabyne and waited for the temps to drop below 0c and sprayed my garden hose on fine mist i could make snow in my backyard??
     
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    With just a hose? Unlikley i think.

    But Vermillion will know more [​IMG] !
     
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    or would it result in a thin layer of ice??
     
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    no, you would get water that would eventually freeze on the ground. it doesnt work below about -20C because the droplets will be too big and not have enough hang time to freeze. if u did it in -20C or below, it would work.
     
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    So the issue is the misting effect correct?

    If it was sprayed as a very fine mist - wouldnt that work.

    Dont quite understand your point vermillion? Especially as we see snow guns working at close to zero temps.
     
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    :goose: scratch that off my to do list before i die then....javascript:void(0)
    Goose
     
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    Well the mist of a garden hose wouldn't seperate the droplets enough. Thats the whole point of a compressor *i think*, to 'blow' apart the droplets into small droplets that will take a shorter time to freeze?

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    I recall someone in the Weather forum recently (PoW comes to mind, but i know i'm wrong :p ) saying they tried doing this at a resort (with a gardned hose) at -2C and nothing happened...except with the odd ice droplet forming.

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    correct BN, sorry i was eating so i couldnt be stuffed typing more than i needed to.

    there are small droplets and then there are small enough droplets to grant sufficient time to freeze in the air. For example, put your garden hose on the highest fog setting it will go, now, u should see little, almost 'clouds' of mist that go upwards and take a long time to settle. This is by and far NOT the majority of the mist coming through the hose. what you need is this mist and a propellant (the compressor) to separate these particles.

    You need a mist that has droplets so fine they take a long time to settle down on the ground, giving more freezing time. This is done by 2 methods:
    - Fan Gun
    - A/W Gun
    a garden hose set on mist will not do this sufficiently unless u have very cold temperatures, at which im guessing the water in the hose would freeze anyway.
     
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    POW did it with a pressure washer.
     
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    plausible?
     
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    plausible, but not practical in Australia. If u lived in Siberia then yes, u could do it.
     
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    try it with a garden hose and a fuel injection nozzle and a water tank and a compressor. put the fuel injection nozzle on the end of the hose, hook the hose up to hte water tank, hook the compressor up to the water tank, pump up the system and blow water out the injector, should be snow before it hits the ground.
    Good luck in finding an airproof water tank.

    Or make a blended system like Vermillion.
    Ever noticed that man made snow is really sharp whereas natural snow is soft.
     
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    yes, if u did that you would basically make a sheet of ice though. Using a proper internal/external mix is the way to go to get soft snow.

    we all remember what snowmaking snow was when it first came out.
     
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    i dont, wasn't alive.....
     
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    i wasnt either but aparentely u hit it and then stopped. compare snowmaking in the 90's to now, its come a long way.
     
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    say global warming doesnt have THAT much effect on climate temperatures, i could imagine what snowmaking will do for resorts in the future...

    i hit what then stopped?
     
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    you went from natural to manmade snow and u could tell the difference, manmade was like mush like the bottom of LBS on a saturday arvo.
     
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    maybe australia just wasnt made for snowsports....
     
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    This is more like Snow Talk