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Discussion in 'Mt Buller' started by Dave Clark, Aug 9, 2018.
It wasnt one of those smokey buses who dropped the oil. !!!!
Yeah I reckon that would be a summer MTB game-changer. Though probably a disincentive for MTB-ers to stay in the village.
Be preferable to staying in Sawmill or Merrijig.
I'd love to know who then - it could've been worse but wasn't great in a few spots.
I stand by the comment about the extremely smokey bus or buses though. I don't think it's a good look for the resort but maybe I'm just expect too much of a sport in its infancy?
But I observe that not all diesel motors emit dark black plumes in 2019. l:-/
My VW diesel doesn’t
If they had a Gondola to the bottom and a few trails to suit all levels total game changer for summer and winter snow play.
Then may be take one of the unused cats that are decked out with seating and run from tele junction up to the top of sterling for the back country crew.
Hell I have plenty of ideas I wish they would do,
I still want a early pre lifts skimo race series (amateur as hell normal touring gear) with a tailgate BBQ breakfast after then swap to the alpine set up and head out for the day.
May be switch it up with a similar XC series.
But this is probably best for another thread.
Ooo - ouch! Dave.
That would want to be quite a good business case then?
Just think of the savings..
Cost of running buses
And Buller will be only 2 hours 40 minutes from melbourne.
In my view RMB (current business and site holders), BSL and the government should pay for it.
It would make Buller a true all season resort.
Just a few problems with that.
The $40 million building cost has to be paid for, so the gondola fee would need to be high
You can't close the road because gondolas are the wrong type of vehicle to carry luggage for overnight visitors and freight to keep the resort running like food.
So it's not suitable for overnight visitors, but many day visitors would use the road if confronted with a high gondola fee, so usage would be rather limited.
Gondolas typically move at well under 20 kmh, with extra load and unload times compared to driving straight through in a car. So they wouldn't be faster than than the current route up the bendy road.
I'm this forums biggest ski lift fan, but I can't see a gondola being viable in any way. An aerial tram would have similar problems, plus a half hour wait between departing cabins.
A rack railway might be viable if the builders weren't overly concerned with a good return on their investment, but sorry a gondola is a wonderful dream, but in reality, totally impractical.
(But I have a faint hope that they build it and prove me wrong.)
Is that for a 'modest-sized' gondola fthe on Horse Hill or a whopping big 'car-replacer' from Mirimbah?
That's say $12-15 million per km of lift?
For Horse Hill, I'd say you would be in for $15 million.
Along with what Bogong listed, the running cost of a 10km long lift would be massive.
And there is also the cost of the huge carpark at the base to construct.
How about some mid-sized low-floor hybrid buses with regen braking? Just run a few of them between the gate and HH. You'd get most of the benefits of the Gondola without the massive capital outlay
Yeah yeah yeah whatever. Have you seen how freaking cool a 3S Gondola is!
I'm going to ride a bicable Funispace lift at Verbier tomorrow - very cool but not at 3S standard.
Blackcomb is 4.1km and moves 4000 per hour(from what I read),
That’s pretty bloody good
Would save money on car park expansion, an aging bus fleet,increase summer activities and be an attraction on its own but $40m is a huge outlay and more importantly really bumps the total value of Buller up into a price bracket that may mean it’s over capitalized and in able to re sell in the future.
the Lego set is arriving
They could have called it the Red Bullet.
I guess Blackcomb has the numbers to expensive but suitable high tech solutions.
In Australia, even in major cities with decent nos, we tend to go for short-sighted, cut-down (cheap & nasty) transport solutions almost every single time. Then a few years down the track we look at each other with upturned palms, shrug and wonder why we didn't build high-tech infrastructure that would last the longer term. Perhaps even be cheaper or similar cost over the useable life - possibly with fewer emissions and less footprint & environmental damage.
But then again - this IS 'clever' (lucky) Australia!!!
see post a few posts up with a picture of the bull wheel
some more pic's for ya's.... okay, not all Blue Bullet
Cold, wet, snow...
Whitehorse stage 3
Looks like the EW pipeline has been going.
Geez that's dropped fast.
Wow it sure has! It looked like this only 5 months ago. I think even Darryl Kerrigan would struggle to find much serenity there at the moment
Why does it have those annoying foot rests that sit between your legs?
Are that many kids really falling under conventional bars?
First world problems, I know. Happy it’s been replaced but just a question.
Bring back the Bourke St Pomas...
but that is where i learnt to ski. making it to the top on the poma was a big deal. and then a very narrow strip of snow to ski the first few metres
Safety for kids. Tower 4 is pretty high!
Triple Pomas on upper Bourke Street when I was a kid made it my sort of mountain. Throw in Skyline T-bar and Baldy double chair and there were five lifts running parallel with each other.
And don't forget that for a few years when they were insane enough to crank Summit Access / Howqua Poma up to 6½ metres a second, it was the fastest ski lift in the world.
Sadly running it at three times the speed of a T-bar led to more than a little carnage, so it was subsequently slowed down to a boringly 'sensible' speed.
They're not great at shifting big queues of people, but I still love a poma. I rode a couple of really long ones in France this year, I was texting @Vermillion pics while I was on it.
and big queues were the order of the day at both ends of summit access poma, especially howqua
Would give my nuts to have that back again.
A final bit of BB1 trivia that wasn't mentioned earlier. The chairs are not the only part that will live on, the bullwheels have found a new home on a private chairlift near Albury. It will be the first chairlift with over 90% Australian components since both of the Australian chairlift makers closed down over 40 years ago.
If (or when) they replace Grimus, I hope that someone in the Buller marketing department like @Dave Clark has the time to record the whole process on video, it would be great record of how lifts are installed and be an enduring promotion for Buller. This video of Mt Batchelor's newish chairlift would be a good template. (Yes it's in America, but the video has a few Australians, including the resort manager.)
And it was an invitation to snowplow hard and get launched skywards ...
Any more info on that albury chair?
It's being built by the co-owner of an engineering and fabrication company who spent a lot of time at Falls Creek in the past. The hill rarely sees snow, but the owner really likes chairlifts and sees building one as an interesting challenge.
He's not hiding the fact (it's hard to hide an application for planning permission, an article in the local rag or a whopping great chairlift on a hill), but nor does he want people rocking up to his property for a gawk or his family being bothered about it. If people are really interested it shouldn't be too hard to find the details.
i can guess who it is from that description