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New Guthega Quad CONFIRMED for 2014

Discussion in 'Perisher' started by Bullwheel, Aug 22, 2013.

  1. person s

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    terrific - really shows how much progress they've made, not really evident from the cam
    though I was happy to see the bullwheel moving into place too :thumbs:
    this shows how quickly they're moving
     
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    So, the Kaman helicopter from Skywork
    No tail rotor


    edit: I see it's based in Wollongong from their website
    Useful lifting load is 3 tonnes.Nice!
     
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  3. Ted Harper

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    Thanks for that link - excellent photos and a great record of the construction!

    I had a look yesterday, and while none of my photos add anything to what is already posted to this thread, I'm happy to have seen it going ahead so well with my own eyes.

    What really struck me (beyond how great this is going to be - I still have the original trail map in my caravan from the 80's where it was marked as the "Proposed Quad", so I've been hoping for this lift for a while now) is how the top station stands out above the top of the hill when you look up at it from the Norwegian Road. The towers, and almost all of them are in place now, seem well-sited to not restrict skiing in any way and it _looks_ like the bottom station is just enough lower than the base of the poma was that it probably won't need skating/un-clipping to get to it from the bottom traverse or the Double Trouble ski-out - not sure until the snow is there but that's how it looked anyway.
     
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    That's how it looked to me too when I checked it out a couple of weekends back. Will make that last bit that little bit easier when you come out at the creek.
     
  5. Donza

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    Bizarre hey...
    have never seen it fly.
     
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  6. Donza

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    IMO they were crazy not too make it accessible
    That last bit is a PITA.
    After you've skied DT , then have to deal with a J bar (its not a poma really is it?)
     
  7. Ted Harper

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    Correct, Doppelmayr J-bar (actually now an ex-J-bar, pining for the fjords, etc) but everyone has always called it the Cowpastures poma.

    Super-great learning area - along with the rope tows that used to be in the saddle - but the location of the bottom of it wasn't helpful for skiing the bottom section of the Schnaxl or Fun Run (Karls) without an annoying amount of skating.
     
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    Its really going to open up the bottom of schnaxl and karls. One big advantage is they hopefully can get rid of the mid traverse that everyone one does from blue cow and have people do the lower traverse to the bottom of the chair. That will make things a lot safer for both the traverse and the people skiing down the runs.

    Agree about the making the exit of DT a lot easier. Fortunately there is still a reasonable climb to get in to double trouble from the pleasant valley quad which hopefully will keep the lazy punters away. The lower lift will also make it a lot easier to ski out of pleasant view as well, which will make that a lot better for beginners and intermediates, as well as the nice tree runs down there for the more advanced.
     
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    As much as I am looking forward to the opening of the new chairlift,I feel the days of skiing endlessly around Mother in Law, Schnaxl's and The Screw with the runs to myself may be coming to an abrupt end.
    A fantastic place after fresh snowfalls and always stays in great shape right through the day in spring, and due to the traversing at the top and bottom it kept a lot of people away.
     
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    Yeah but on the flipside. Other areas will become less popular
     
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    I'm going to miss Guthega
     
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    Not being a regular to Perisher I am curious as to whether there is snow making infrastructure at Guthega...my recollection is that there is none!
     
  13. person s

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    I think there's not much? none?
    certainly can't remember seeing any
     
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    Last to open and first to close, even last year it could have stayed open a bit longer but it costs money to run and staff the lifts, same goes for Blue Cow, could have stayed open longer. It's slightly annoying when they close an area that still has plenty of snow.
    Even more annoying for the lodge owners and guests over at Guthega.
     
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    From Perisher's website. By exclusion from this set of paras, it would seem your hunch is correct.


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    Snowmaking covers 53.4 hectares across the resort. 236 snow-guns in the snowmaking inventory allow Perisher to produce snow
    across Front Valley; from Mid Station of the Perisher Quad Express through Yabby Flat and Goats Gully back to Front Valley, including lower Escapade and the PlayStation Slopestyle Park; Snowy Trails; Happy Valley; Towers Run and Tube Town at Perisher;

    the rope tow's, carpets and Captain Cook J-bar at Smiggin Holes;

    Early Starter, Road Run to the Terminal Chairlift, Zali's, The Pony Ride and Snowsports School Rope Tow, Road Run to Roller Coaster, Showboat and Excelerator runs at Blue Cow.

    What is required for snowmaking?
    An extensive system of steel piping is required to supply the snowmaking operation with compressed air and high-pressure water through separate pipes to the snowmaking hydrants on the slopes. A pumphouse at the end of the system produces the compressed air and has high-pressure pumps to supply the water.

    Perisher has two plant rooms, one at Perisher’s Front Valley and one at the base of the Terminal Quad Chair at Blue Cow.

    Front Valley
    Front Valley has two large centrifugal compressors supplying a total of 20340m3 of compressed air per hour. During the compression process a substantial amount of heat is produced and this hot compressed air is then cooled to a usable temperature by piping it through a cooling tower. From the cooling tower the air then passes through air dryers. The dryers remove moisture by passing air through cylinders containing desiccant pellets that separate the moisture from the air. This moisture is then drained off.

    Water is supplied from a pump station at North Perisher that fills a storage tank adjacent to the Front Valley plant room as well as a feed line from Pump Station 1 at Blue Cow. Both air and water are then fed into the dual underground reticulation system onto Front Valley, Goat’s Gully, Yabby Flat, Snowy Trails, Happy Valley T-bar, and Towers runs.

    Blue Cow
    The Blue Cow plant room has two centrifugal compressors supplying 20340m3 of compressed air and four screw compressors supplying 10080m3 of compressed air, providing a total of 30480m3 of compressed air per hour. As in the Front Valley plant room, the air is then cooled and dried.

    Water for Blue Cow is pumped from a Snowy Hydro aqueduct near the bottom of the Ridge Chair. Both air and water is then fed into the dual underground reticulation system onto the Early Starter, Rope Tows, Zali’s, Exelerator and Roller Coaster runs.

    Smiggin Holes
    Smiggin Holes uses fan guns. A submersible pump in a submerged tank pumps water for use by the snow guns.
     
  16. person s

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    yep
    note that 'Perisher' is now the name for the whole resort
     
  17. Hammer

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    I would hope for the amount of effort they have taken this past 6-8 months to plug the new Guthega Quad that it would be open and the terrain skiable just as much as the other well used locations...I would have thought snow making would have been logical but it might be logistically more difficult to happen.
     
  18. VSG

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    True that. Been that way for a while. :)
     
  19. VSG

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    Looking at the original media release, not much to go on: http://www.perisher.com.au/media-ro...-business-to-build-new-freedom-chairlift.html
     
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    The aspect is good for natural snow retention. The "weak spot" is the saddle back to Blue Cow.
     
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  21. person s

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    needs to be on this page

    [​IMG]
     
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    Imo snowmaking at Guthega makes no sense. Financial vs benefit
     
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    Not suprised by this as Mid Traverse has some difficult crossings for skidoos of Schnaxl and Karls to avoid skiers. With the increased traffic on these runs with the new quad I can understand this change.
     
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    not much activity on the site today - did they run away when someone mentioned snow?
     
  27. Mr. Mook

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    not a lot over the last few days.
    my guess is they are waiting for the towers & the bottom station to finish, then mount the cable before finishing off the top station
     
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    No hopefully simple wet weather , not up to speed what they doing exactly hands on but power tools and moisture don't mix.
    It is really hard when it is stop start , wet dry , nuisance rain not worth the setting up / pack up multiple times. Legalese speak, "wet day " and justified contract extension is most sensible. Depends on the "contract "which from experience are not so rational.
     
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    hope it's fine for a while so they can finish soon!
     
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    Then it can puke like crazy. :woohoo:
     
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    Looks like the cable is going on the Freedom chair today.
     
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    Yep, it looks like it is on from the cams. They would be hoping for no more snow at this point so they can get the covers and chairs on in the next few weeks. Guns are already blasting on front valley and we only have four weeks until the season starts.
     
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    they were splicing the cable yesterday.
     
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    Hey. I wanna know more about that. Where is the join? Watched alot of chairlift cable over the years, cannot spot the seam.
     
  36. person s

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    v glad they have the camera pointing at this
    if only it were a bit cooler
     
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    you won't see a good splice it will just blend in perfect
    watch from around 3:10
     
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    Beaudy mate thanks.

    :thumbs:
     
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    Wow...always wondered how they joined them together without any obvious connection...thanks Jamesc.
     
  40. VSG

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    Looks like a job even @Heli could do (towing pylons around and dumping them on to the ground). ;)

    Great vid, thanks. Spliced section is 140 feet! That's about 42m for young ones. ;)
     
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    I always love the views from the top of Guthega looking west and south west. This web cam is sensational and will be an awesome marketing tool for Perisher. It has been fascinating watching the build. Wouldn't this be an awesome spot for a restaurant - right up there with some of the best from around the world..
     
  42. person s

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    not sure NPWS would be up for that
    it would have to be ski-in/out?
     
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    I would love a little shop at the bottom of the Ridge quad similar to the one at the bottom of Eyre, that way when the queue is really long you can decide its time for a drinks break.

    At least in Guthega no matter where you are you can always say stuff the queue and take a break at the Burning Log.

    Obviously the spot atop Guthega would be beautiful though.
     
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    Mark, just bury some grog and sweeties near the bottom of roller coaster. Tell me when you've planted the stash and I guard it for you.
     
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    Not a good spot. You have to be travelling by the time you are at the bottom of RC to make it across the flat. Somewhere near the bottom of the T bar so you can watch the monitor to see when the estimated queue time is reasonable would be ideal.
     
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    Fk. U are right.
     
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    Blue Cow still has logistical issues.
     
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    When that sign is out it is usually a good time to head to the Ridge, people see the sign and don't go, so it clears. It's always a gamble sign or no sign. But if the sign is up, you usually get a less crowded run down Rollercoaster and if you can do that run without having to dodge carcasses or morons who are out of control the wait is worth it.
     
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    Just need to complete the picture... these are from the Perisher slopes master plan from early 00s.

    The quad being discussed is clearly shown in orange, as is a fixed grip quad lift taking punters back to Perisher, heading South East, in the second image. Also in second image is a T taking folks back to the BlueCow Terminal.

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