New radars

Seafm

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Mm these wouldn't be seats under threat from Bob Katter/One Nation/Clive Palmer in the Fed election? By chance?
I recent years the BOM have upgraded many existing radars to doppler as well as as adding new ones to the network. Both of the new sites are in Bob Latter's electorate. I wouldn't call it buttering up the electorate but rather something the rest of us take for granted. Long overdue.
 

Snow Blowey

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Don't get the hangup about radars. We've got farmers demanding more so they can better plan their activities. But radar is a short term observation tool that is not very informative. Much better to look at the sat pic and on ground observations to see what is actually hitting the ground and why.
 

POW_hungry

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Don't get the hangup about radars. We've got farmers demanding more so they can better plan their activities. But radar is a short term observation tool that is not very informative. Much better to look at the sat pic and on ground observations to see what is actually hitting the ground and why.
100% agree. These were my exact thoughts.
Not many precautionary decisions are made at the point of recognizing expansive, red pings on doppler radar. Too little too late for BoM to utilize in favour of landowners/model verification IMO.
 
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snowgum

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100% agree. These were my exact thoughts.
Not many precautionary decisions are made at the point of recognizing expansive, red pings on doppler radar. Too little too late for BoM to utilize in favour of landowners/model verification IMO.

Perhaps it allows us townies to bring in the washing before it pours??
 
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nfip

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Or the builders not to pour concrete or re-roof, or even roll the leads out some days.
Think the Climate outlooks and other similiar services and modelling are better suited investing in for the cockies.
Radars may come into it with tracking severe thunderstorms but again sfa they can do by that time anyway.
Edit : it seems more to do with the ST flood threat to stock.
"The extra coverage across the North West blackspot will allow graziers such as Rob Ievers to move cattle to higher ground before severe weather and flooding persists"
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/10940368
 
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Snow Blowey

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Yeah that it. They want to ignore 10 day forecasting and blame there predicament on lack of 30minute out observation. Just another case of farmers lioking to blame everyone and everything for their shitty decisions. And ignore availability of real time rainfall obs with actual rainfall data in leui of a pretty picture. I just want me weather in an easy to see graphic only. Even though its me livelihood!
 

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Yeah that it. They want to ignore 10 day forecasting and blame there predicament on lack of 30minute out observation. Just another case of farmers lioking to blame everyone and everything for their shitty decisions. And ignore availability of real time rainfall obs with actual rainfall data in leui of a pretty picture. I just want me weather in an easy to see graphic only. Even though its me livelihood!

Its a mankind thing though - much better to blame others than own up.

I think pollies take the gold medal for this!
 

Seafm

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Mt Isa only got a weather radar just a few years ago. Between Townsville and the Isa is a major transport corridor as well with many communities servicing it. If it makes for more accurate weather forecasting I say it's a good thing.
 
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snowgum

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Mt Isa only got a weather radar just a few years ago. Between Townsville and the Isa is a major transport corridor as well with many communities servicing it. If it makes for more accurate weather forecasting I say it's a good thing.

Fwiw: totally all for more radars!

Was hamming up the old us vs them, nth vs sth rivalry - which does happen, esp. as some states are seen as ‘swing states’ & others rusted on.

...I think the Wimera (west Vic) are finally getting one. This surely will beat relying on Mildura (150km + away) and could be handy tracking systems (inc snow) arriving from SE Bight /SE SA??
 

Snow Blowey

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I have no problem with more radars. I have a problem with people acting as if they are a necessary part of observing the weather. Or considering them a necessary forecasting tool that is useful for farm planning.

They are really only good for severe storm warnings, and the warning window is so limited that you cant really change the outcome. What are you going to do? - roll out the hail covers across your 10km x 5km paddock?

Its not like you cant just look up and around and see storms building or rolling in when you are in flat open country.
 
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nfip

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Yeah that it. They want to ignore 10 day forecasting and blame there predicament on lack of 30minute out observation. Just another case of farmers lioking to blame everyone and everything for their shitty decisions. And ignore availability of real time rainfall obs with actual rainfall data in leui of a pretty picture. I just want me weather in an easy to see graphic only. Even though its me livelihood!
You're right.
I do get it.
As I said earlier better served looking at longer term options.
 

Flowin

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I only just recently joined so have not seen this thread before.
Good to see some investment in new radars and upgrades.
It is also valuable to improve radar coverage to improve now casting capabilities for flash flood risks.
My main beef is that QLD has more “black holes” in radar reach and overlap and quality than NSW.
Hope some radar investment follows in QLD and other states as well in the future.
 
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