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Telezacski

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So I guess to the original post, no, just no....

If you win Lotto don’t waste it on waterpark in Jindy! It wouldn’t work. What makes Jindy is it is an outdoor town, people like the outdoors not faux thrills.

As for matching the flanno, with the Land Rover, it does match, especially with the puffer vest and land rover truckers hat, but the glass of champers ruins the look ;)
 
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So I guess to the original post, no, just no....

If you win Lotto don’t waste it on waterpark in Jindy! It wouldn’t work. What makes Jindy is it is an outdoor town, people like the outdoors not faux thrills.

As for matching the flanno, with the Land Rover, it does match, especially with the puffer vest and land rover truckers hat, but the glass of champers ruins the look ;)
Ok fair enough
So if it’s outdoorsy what about a snow play beginners and railpark nearby out of the national park . My original intention is to relieve visitation pressure on the national park
 

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Ok fair enough
So if it’s outdoorsy what about a snow play beginners and railpark nearby out of the national park . My original intention is to relieve visitation pressure on the national park
I don't know of anywhere this could occur
 

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Needs a Ferris wheel to be taken seriously.
Monorail!

I'm actually somewhat serious, I think there should be a rail line that goes up the Thredbo Valley, has a stop at Bullocks to integrate with the Ski Tube, another at Thredbo & car travel into the NP seriously disincentivized, Zermatt style.
 

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Monorail!

I'm actually somewhat serious, I think there should be a rail line that goes up the Thredbo Valley, has a stop at Bullocks to integrate with the Ski Tube, another at Thredbo & car travel into the NP seriously disincentivized, Zermatt style.
I’ve been dreaming for years about a Skitube extension to Macdonaldtown
I’m not sure the old Cooma line is still there - maybe it’s under a road now?
or are you talking sbout a stand-alone railway from Jindy?
 

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I’ve been dreaming for years about a Skitube extension to Macdonaldtown
I’m not sure the old Cooma line is still there - maybe it’s under a road now?
The Old cooma rail line and the pushback to build it as a rail trail is an example of how fuckin hopeless and backward some people are down there
 
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It would make an awesome rail trail.
But bring back the rail! Nats are terrified of upsetting the 12* farmers on these routes and have stymied rail trails in NSW to the point where the ‘trial’ that is proposed is so short I can’t see how it will be too much of a success. Given these things need 5-10 years to ramp up once complete it’s hard to see why a ‘trial’ is needed in NSW, given we have about 10,000 examples globally to choose from.

Canberra to Cooma or Bombala would be a very, very, very popular trail. Capital city access by car, plane, bus and rail, local towns en route, scenic, great road access for support and shuttle services.... it’s be amazing.
 

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But bring back the rail! Nats are terrified of upsetting the 12* farmers on these routes and have stymied rail trails in NSW to the point where the ‘trial’ that is proposed is so short I can’t see how it will be too much of a success. Given these things need 5-10 years to ramp up once complete it’s hard to see why a ‘trial’ is needed in NSW, given we have about 10,000 examples globally to choose from.

Canberra to Cooma or Bombala would be a very, very, very popular trail. Capital city access by car, plane, bus and rail, local towns en route, scenic, great road access for support and shuttle services.... it’s be amazing.

Extend to Jindy would be awesome. Camp sites along the way.
 

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Extend to Jindy would be awesome. Camp sites along the way.
Camp, farm stay, b&b, air b&b, pub accom, it’s all the micro businesses that these things generate that are their power.

Touring cyclists are happy to spend money. Riding largely packless with a change of clothes and ‘credit card camping’ is a lovely way to travel.
 

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Camp, farm stay, b&b, air b&b, pub accom, it’s all the micro businesses that these things generate that are their power.

Touring cyclists are happy to spend money. Riding largely packless with a change of clothes and ‘credit card camping’ is a lovely way to travel.
Highest spend per day of any tourist they say
*US data.
 
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Jindy needs something BIG like the Big Banana or Merino the tourist would flock there.Maybe the BIG cow dung
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Obviously......
 
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But bring back the rail! Nats are terrified of upsetting the 12* farmers on these routes and have stymied rail trails in NSW to the point where the ‘trial’ that is proposed is so short I can’t see how it will be too much of a success. Given these things need 5-10 years to ramp up once complete it’s hard to see why a ‘trial’ is needed in NSW, given we have about 10,000 examples globally to choose from.

Canberra to Cooma or Bombala would be a very, very, very popular trail. Capital city access by car, plane, bus and rail, local towns en route, scenic, great road access for support and shuttle services.... it’s be amazing.


You oboviously haven't been up to the Northern Tablelands of late. Big signs along the New England saying:

"Trains not Bikes"
 

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You oboviously haven't been up to the Northern Tablelands of late. Big signs along the New England saying:

"Trains not Bikes"
Pretty much the case across NSW.

I suspect part of the reason the member for Monaro in NSW has provided funds for an investigation into a new line form Eden up the escarpment and 'return to rail' is to try and squash rail trails on the Monaro.

I can't for the life of me work out why anyone thinks a local regional rail line will bring any funds to a local region. Local people drive. No one hops off every station and spends $200 and then gets back on five days in a row.

Meanwhile, across the rest of the world...
 

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Tumut / batelow is another trail that would be good but for a few militant farmers who have made all sorts of threats.

Unfortunately some of the promoters of the trails need to pull their heads in as well, yes they will eventually turn a profit but don’t expect 20mil In year 1 and don’t expect $20mil from a one day ride.
 

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Pretty much the case across NSW.

I suspect part of the reason the member for Monaro in NSW has provided funds for an investigation into a new line form Eden up the escarpment and 'return to rail' is to try and squash rail trails on the Monaro.

I can't for the life of me work out why anyone thinks a local regional rail line will bring any funds to a local region. Local people drive. No one hops off every station and spends $200 and then gets back on five days in a row.

Meanwhile, across the rest of the world...
Lets build a container wharf at Eden....
Freight is time specific
Then lets haul it 500kms to where its needed.
costing a couple of extra thousand bucks
makes sense
 
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Tumut-Batlow linked to the next one along would go well. Again, near a capital.

They kind of don't turn a 'profit' but provide a platform which allows small local businesses to get a foothold and operate - they return a regional economic benefit. Derby (not a rail trail but similar in that it's publicly-provided local recreation infrastructure which is free to use but is a platform for local business to develop and operate according market forces) is the best example I've seen as stand-alone MTB. Derby is self-supporting in that donation tins and charging $4 for a hot shower at the free campsites pays for it - Council has staff which look after the trails, clean the loos and showers (which are all top notch well kept).

Rail trails have done very very very well for regional Victoria and NZ especially where they are multiday.
 

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In the olden days the Cooma Mail went south on Friday night, but did not return on Sunday night. Doh. Then they tried the Snow Train for a year or 2. Promoted as a party experience, not (as made sense to me) sleep on Friday and Sunday night and get 2 days skiing.
 

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When I say profit I guess that’s what I meant, regional business generate an income from trail users, I think the one in Bright is supposed to generate around $20mil.

The batelow trail, is Batelow, Tumut, adelong and maybe gundagai.
 
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When I say profit I guess that’s what I meant, regional business generate an income from trail users, I think the one in Bright is supposed to generate around $20mil.

The batelow trail, is Batelow, Tumut, adelong and maybe gundagai.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03...tmV1JsummhX_sRiok9Ekp0spO_wmyMqZZUOV7VDhhyq58

Local accommodation provider Kay Bristow said research from other rail trails shows cycle tourists spend at least $180 a night.

"They're good tourists because they move slowly through an area and they have a higher daily spend than other tourists do," Ms Bristow said.

"And for every dollar invested in cycle tourism infrastructure, about $3 is returned within the first two years to the local communities."
 
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We we having the same conversation at Guyra. Here is a town 30km from Armidale and 70km from Glen Innes and as a resuult is in decline. If i am in a car looking for a place to stop and have a bite, or to find a room, or to get on the piss, i'll probably continue on to the larger town either side. If i'm on a bike i'll probably stop and spend in every town along the way, if not stay the night in all.
 
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