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Nihongo Questions

Discussion in 'Japan' started by LMB, Sep 16, 2019.

  1. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Hi, experts!
    I was wondering if anyone who is Nihongo Josu desu would be able to help me out.

    Pay pass
    Pay wave
    Tap and go

    I can’t find anything on a term for this. I have asked a few native speakers and got the old giggle, shrug and wakarimasen.

    Context - mainly Niseko region but also spending time in Sapporo, Tokyo and Kyoto next month and I love using my Garmin pay on the watch - so simple! No need to take my backpack off and dig around for my wallet. It’d be great if I had a simple question I could ask that would quickly make it clear that I’m asking if they have this available.

    Others, feel free to hijack thread for your own help with language.
     
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    Hermannator One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    ojisan Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I can see how you got the odd giggle if you asked someone how to say tap & go in japanese LOL
     
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  4. Ramenman

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    Cashless has already become a new Japanese word, so most people will understand.

    Cashless Kessai dekiru?. Dekiru = Can / Be able to. Kessai = Payment in this case.

    Deki-masuka sounds polite, so "Cashless Kessai Deki-masuka?" sounds more polite.

    More simply, Cashless?. Then, they'll understand you want to pay by use of something like Suica, smartphone, credit card, etc.

    If you are using a Suica, credit card or smartphone, you don't need to say anything in many cases, I mean, they'll understand you if you show them your Suica / credit card / smartphone, but paying by use of a smartwatch is not common in Japan, so they might not understand you, so you need to say "Cashless Kessai dekiru?" while pointing at your smartwatch.
     
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    These are product brand names by Australian banks to describe their contactless payment technologies. Even if you found the Japanese equivalent for these three I doubt the words will mean anything to anyone.
    Additionally, at some point years ago I heard that Australia had invented its own standard of contactless payments, deviating from the established international standard. Suggesting that our RFID cards won't work internationally. However I believe I also heard that we were leading the field and many countries were following suit.

    Perhaps you can translate wireless / contactless payments, and show people the little wifi symbol on your credit card, and see what they say.
    edit, @Ramenman got you covered.

    I'm not holding my breath for contactless payments in a country where banks don't have online facilities, requires 3 phone calls to manage a single international transaction, still use printed passbooks, where it takes 6 months to open an account, and bank ATMs only work during business hours.
    If you have a spare 20-30mins the next time you're Narita or Haneda, look for a bank run international cash exchange instead of a machine. You can witness a hilarious exchange of 5-6 people passing notes, filling out forms and intricate filing systems to retrieve a petty amount of cash.

    It would be great tho. I have used cash exactly twice in Australia in the last 3-4 years. Not having to deal with notes and shrapnel and having a record of purchases in my internet bacnking is great.
     
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  6. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    So far Lawson’s, green farm and the cafe at Ki also take contactless- I’ll keep trying at each place and add to the list over time.

    I actually tried pay pass and payWave - didn’t ask tap and go.

    Thank you
    Exactly what I was looking for.

    I’m used to carrying bulk cash but if I can leave the credit card at home it’ll be better - don’t want to break it on the hill if I can avoid it. Will have a suica fully loaded and ready to go also and breaking that will be less of a stress.
     
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