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Niseko 2015

Discussion in 'Japan' started by jakes47, Sep 15, 2014.

  1. jakes47

    jakes47 Hard Yards

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    All booked now. Flying out on the 20th Feb with 4 nights in HK – Niseko for 10 days from the 24th.

    It was impossible to get the accommodation we wanted during and each side of the Sapporo Ice festival and apparently Chinese New Year is also a busy time so we decided to got later and hope that it wont be as busy.

    We have been to Niseko twice - 2009 and 2010 and I am wondering what changes we will see in our 5-year absence. Obviously the earthquake and tsunami would have had a nation wide effect on tourism including the ski resorts for a season or two.

    Would love to hear from anyone with restaurant suggestions, as we do like to eat out every second night at least and are looking forward to trying any recommended new ones that may have opened in recent years.
     
  2. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Don't think the earthquake/tsunami had any/much impact on Hokkaido resorts at all.
     
  3. BobGnarly

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    People would ski luminous green snow at niseko. A little radiation cant stop the unthinking masses
     
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    skichanger A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    I can tell you are back in civilisation cause you have your cynics hat back on.
     
  5. BobGnarly

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    Haha kind of back. One more night of car camping
     
  6. tr+h

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    You need some of this...

     
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  7. HoopDogg

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    I'll be there 29th jan-8th feb
    Staying in annupuri.
    Will be solo, so anyone looking for a riding partner or doesn't mind a tag-along give us a shout (will have wheels too!)
     
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    hopp dogg we will be there too happy to ride with you, booking dates tonight- at this stage 2-5 of us going
     
  9. Fonty

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    We going 13 - 29 January, cant wait......... after this year in Europe on runs that resembled an ice rink in the morning and slush in the afternoon, looking forward to some good snow :thumbs:
     
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    I think you could safely bet the house for some decent snowfall between those dates in Niseko.
     
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  11. Chondro

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    All booked. Arrive jan 30 leave Friday 13 feb! Let's hope for mostly fresh days!
     
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  12. Salacious Crumb

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    2 weeks at that time you should be blessed with a good 20+ dump
     
  13. HoopDogg

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    After a pow strike rate of 1/10 days in the middle of jan on Honshu in 2013, i'm hoping to not see the sun this time!
     
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  14. Chondro

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    similar to me in feb last year hoop! was there 7 days and saw the sun most of those
     
  15. smitty484

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    A 7 day trip is always a lottery
     
  16. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Personally I would never go for less than 2 weeks, 3+ is preferable
     
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  17. Vermillion

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    If you go for 7 days and base yourself in 1 location you run a risk. I will be doing 2 x 10 day trips this winter, but I will go where the snow is on a daily basis.
     
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  18. smackies

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    That's nice, but do you intend on skiing?
     
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  19. Salacious Crumb

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    Whole season
    last year I made that mistake . Every other trip I have been on has been 4 to 5 weeks . Of those trips have never missed out on good weather
     
  20. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    pwned
     
  21. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Honestly, I don't really buy the powder bible experience for Japan. Yeah there are some variances, but if you're on Honshu or Hokkaido, the whole place is generally affected by the same snow weather or fine weather.
     
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  22. Vermillion

    Vermillion Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah. And not into a tree either.
     
  23. Vermillion

    Vermillion Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    Sure this is quite true, but as you know the snow at Happo vs. Iwatake for example can vary significantly in quality, not to mention Happo is tracked out a lot earlier than Iwatake. And that is 2 resorts next to each other.

    Even you would agree on a fresh snow day you'd hit up Cortina for example, then the next day if it hasnt been a weekend you'll be at Iwatake or Tsugaike, and the next day out the back of Tsugaike or Norikura.
     
  24. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Kinda. But honestly if it's fine at Tsugaike its fine at Cortina. If it's snowing at Tsugaike it's just snowing more at Cortina. Happo is interesting in that it can cop snow from less conventional systems rather than the 'NW' wind. But for the most part, when the people above mention they are getting skunked, all of Honshu/Hokkaido is.
     
  25. Vermillion

    Vermillion Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm not just talking about snow quality and amount but also crowd level, although if you ride out of bounds none of this really applies anyway.
     
  26. travelislife

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    This is definitely not true. February in Niseko there was a long patch without snow, clear bluebird days, went for a day trip to Kiroro and it was absolutely dumping pretty much all day long after a nice 30cms the night before, all less than an hours drive from Niseko. So it definitely happens and can be worth chasing it rather than just sticking in the one spot.
     
  27. Vermillion

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    I guess it depends on the quality of snow you are chasing in the first place. Some people are quite happy with 10cms of elephant snot at Falls Creek. Each to their own.
     
  28. smitty484

    smitty484 Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Sorry, but I challenge "definitely not true". Sure there will be variances at times, but overall similar weather patterns affect most areas of Japan.
     
  29. Vermillion

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    That's a pretty general statement. You could say the same thing about snow-bearing systems in Australia too, and we know that also isnt always the case.

    Back on Japan - You've skied the Hakuba valley enough to know there are many times when Cortina has 10cms overnight and Happo or 47 has a foot, and vice versa.
     
  30. JosieJ

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    Heading over 23rd January to the 17th February 111 days 20 hours 39 minutes 22secs :clap:
     
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  31. Tennex

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    I am off to Niseko on the 20th Feb for 10 days. At 54 my first overseas skiing trip! Staying at the Hilton.
    Already like a cat on a hot tin roof! Building up the legs with exercise everyday.
     
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    Have fun. I am staying home for the first time in a while. Like a cat on a hot tin roof !
     
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    Big change on the cams above in the last 48 hours.
     
  34. scalymanfish

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    Good stuff, you're going to love it.:thumbs:
     
  35. blutek

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    Hiltons a good choice (for us older crew).
     
  36. Fonty

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    What happened to the Livestream webcam outside of Rhythm?
     
  37. Tubby Beaver

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    I disagree, late Jan-early Feb last year, Niseko was hurting for snowfall and the whole place was tracked like a junkies arm……but over at Teine it was dumping, regular powder top-ups and fresh tracks. There can be quite significant variances in the weather over not so large distances
     
  38. Seemore

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    yeah massive differences in short disrtances
     
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    Hi all, hope it's the right forum.
    Just wondering if anyone knows of any eating establishments in the hirafu area that can cater for a party of 20 (11 adults, 9 kids). Yes, crazy trip with six families so a little logistically challenging. Have been to niseko several times pre-kiddies and never needed to think about this eating issue. Going in mid Jan 2015 so keen to get some restaurant bookings sorted for the peak season silliness. Thanks in advance for all replies. Jack
     
  40. LMB

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    The newly opened Amaru (Tex-Mex/the old Wild Bills style) looks like it would have enough seating - but. I haven't been in yet, so don't quote me.
    Jo Jo's can fit a crowd - and the kids enjoy the food type and being able to hit the climbing wall while parents have a few drinks and chat.
    The restaurant at the Vale could probably seat that many in the area to the right of the bar.
    The Japanese restaurant opposite Seicomarto has heaps of seating, might have to occupy 2 separate areas, but maybe carve the kids off from the parents (if they are old enough).
    Shiki can do it, but you'd need to book early - we used them for a 16th birthday - there was 14 of us.

    Some others might be able to but can't think of names off hand.
    It'll be about GETTING the bookings rather than fitting in some cases. I'd do the rounds on day one and book in wherever you can.
     
  41. JosieJ

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    Go and see Cezar at Niseko Pizza located in J Sekka building he can easily accomodate that many. He also has a private upstairs dining area for large crowds and VIP'S.
     
  42. Olgreg

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    He's come a long way from the days of serving pizza from a caravan.
     
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    A lot of restaurants have a private room that can accommodate that many, just have to call and book in advance. Just stress to them that you have 9 kids as when you say 20 they might say they can't fit you. We had a big group earlier this year and it all worked out but I can't remember the actual names of the restaurants.
     
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    I think the Japanese restaurant that LM is referring to is Fuji Zushi. They have some booths out the back that could handle large groups, see http://360niseko.com/location/fuji-zushi the fish soup rocks!
     
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    And Fuji Zushi has some large Japanese style rooms downstairs that can handle big groups.
     
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    AbuCha2 website refers to, "when groups are in excess of 15..."
     
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    Thanks all. Will put abucha 2, fuzjisushi and jojos on the list. I remember fujizushi well. On the corner of the main drag. Unfortunately kamimura will not be on the list this trip. I am sure niseko pizza will see us at least a few times.
    Any one know of any other options? We have to fill out 10 nights somehow....
     
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    Yummy's pizza in the lower-middle hirafu (I think) was pretty good. We tried to go to niseko pizza but it was too busy so we walked down a bit and found this place....good pizza, good size, not so expensive
     
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    I would try places with enough tables to seat you in groups and go/ book at 6 when they are quiet. Down the street opposite the bus stop down from seikomart, try Yosaku, they have separate spaces with room for groups, and Niseko Ramen further down, quick, cheap and tasty. Both on the right as you go down. Yosaku needs a booking, Niseko ramen just roll up early
    Jam Bar in the middle village might take a booking from you, the kids will love its cuteness, and Raku is fantastic but does not take bookings so I would get there before 6. It's all pot luck, forgive the atrocious pun, with so many in your group. And if you can get them all on the bus, the sushi place on the hirafu side of Kutchan is big enough. Good luck
     
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    Is Hurry Slowly down the bottom of the pension village still there? It used to be excellent.
     
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