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Niseko 2016

Discussion in 'Japan' started by blutek, Jun 3, 2015.

  1. blutek

    blutek One of Us

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    Just checked prices for two hotels next February, prices seem to have increased sharply from the discounted rate we paid last season. Hopefully it's not indicative of other accomodation options.
     
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    The more property changes hands at exorbitant rates the dearer it's going to get.
    Suck it up or look elsewhere will be your choices I'm afraid.
     
  3. blutek

    blutek One of Us

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    I think it is CNY (8 Feb) causing the higher costs. So maybe Asahikawa first, then Niseko.
     
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  4. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Probably spot on.
    High demand weeks will have high prices....And huge lift queues....and difficulty getting into restaurants.
    Go elsewhere that week if you can.
     
  5. gibbsy

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    ROFLWow, way to kick things off for the season on a cheerful note
     
  6. Donza

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    why go to Niseko?
     
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    Snows there in spring?
     
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  8. WotSoWot

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    Planning my trip there for jan-feb next year and I've planned for around 50-75 bucks a day, would this be alright?
     
  9. Donza

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    for um what?
     
  10. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    What would you expect that to cover? Just food? Food + lift tickets? ??
     
  11. WotSoWot

    WotSoWot Hard Yards

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    just food and drink
     
  12. Donza

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    Oh easy... unless you drink alot at dinner.
     
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  13. WotSoWot

    WotSoWot Hard Yards

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    Yeah my vague plan was to go out every 2-3 nights and spend whatever I had left over, I was only worried because this amount was recommended on a thread quite a few years ago and I wasn't sure if the cost of living had gone up.
     
  14. Donza

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    Things don't really go up in japan.
    You'll find Kutchan supermarkets the cheapest for everything.
     
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    WotSoWot Hard Yards

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    Thanks
     
  16. travelislife

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    How long's a piece of string? You could do it easy on $30 a day if you like ramen and noodles and katsu curry and a can of beer from the seico mart. But if you are keen to eat out for lunch and dinner at the western places and drink like a horse you will blow that pretty quickly.
     
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  17. BobGnarly

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    This.
    I lived on about $15 a day very easily on 2013, could have been cheaper if I wasn't an alcoholic too lol
     
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    Sounds like he wants to do this on some days and splash out on others...

    This is what i have done in the past and the last time i came home with money (i never do that on a holiday!) when i allowed $100 on incidentals (ie over and above accom and lift tickets) that included purchasing a tee shirt etc here and there.
     
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    Ozgirl A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    2016 I am going with @Lady Mamabear and after what i saw on the weekend i suspect I wont be coming home with much! LOL
     
  20. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Oi!
    Are you confirming my booze hag tag?!
    LOL

    Nah....when the snows on, the drinking is moderated (somewhat).
    Crap snow - what ya gonna do?!
     
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  21. shred_gnar

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    Geez niseko is pretty well full as far as seasonal accom. Friend of mine said all the businesses in town have already booked out anything available for their staff. Looks like i might be heading south next season
     
  22. BobGnarly

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    There are other resorts in Hokkaido ;)
     
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    None that could keep us as interested for 4 straight months
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Have you checked out Kutchan?
     
  25. BobGnarly

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    kuruma
     
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  26. shred_gnar

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    Yeah we would rather do a season else where if we had to live in kutchan. We like the mountain town vibe/feel of hirafu, kutchan just doesnt have that and its too far away. Yes, we are picky.
    Kuruma?
     
  27. BobGnarly

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    There is a reason niseko is so popular, cause you wont get all those boxes ticked anywhere else in japan.
    It's different.
    You have to embrace the difference or try and find a place in niseko
     
  28. Donza

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    if you embrace Hirafu.
    try whistler
     
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    Ha! Been there done that
     
  30. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Makes it difficult for you then. That kind of accommodation is getting harder and harder to find, so getting locked away early. Loads of seasonaires live in Kutchan now. Friends of ours used to rent out their un renovated place in the upper village to season workers, but sold it a couple of years back - it's now a ski shop. That's 10 places gone in one property...and the same has happened all over the village.
     
  31. Donza

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    niseko is not skiing in japan IMO
     
  32. BobGnarly

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    Yeah but you can see why guys like SG like it. Live on mountain with night life and lots of mountain all connected.
    Not my cup of tea but I get its appeal.
     
  33. Crispy013

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    Kuruma = car.

    Besides Niseko, there aren't too many large village set-ups like NA or CA in Japan that will really sustain a long (3 month+) stay without you getting pretty bored. A car changes everything. Echoing what others have been trying to say - base yourself in one place close to a number of resorts and commute each day - Hakuba? Yuzawa? Iiyama? Even Furano?
     
  34. Pat42

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    there were some ex pat ski school instructors at naeba the last time i was there, the guy was bored out of his mind

    really for doing a season i would be going to europe/us/canada, i love japan but the season is short and the terrain could get repetitive

    in whistler i was riding good snow on decent terrain from early november all the way to may
     
  35. neck_deep

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    Short season? Kurodake or others in November, loads of pow till feb and hokkoda San, cherry blossom boarding in May plus other endless options down Nagano way. How's the Japan season short. If you have a car interesting would be an understatement.
     
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    We're going to be hiring a car whilst staying in Hirafu so we can do day trips to nearby resorts. The place we're planning on staying at doesn't have car parking so I was wondering if anybody knows whether you can park a car overnight in any of the public car parks around Hirafu?
     
  37. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Judging by the car burials people do.
    Where are you staying?
     
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    At this stage, looking at staying at Pension Berg
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Righto, that's very close to me. There is a car park next to our place and opposite. I'm not sure if it's restricted, but I've seen cars in both for days on end. Used by a lot of staff, but particularly the one on the same side of the road as Rhythm I've seen tourists parking there. The street running between Rhythm and Shiki one back and parallel to the main road #343.
     
  40. maddog84

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    Thanks for that. From what I've been able to find, it doesn't appear to be very clear what parking restrictions exist. Have heard conflicting reports about the main car park further up the hill towards the lift.
     
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    There's a sizable car park at Pension berg. If they won't let you park there which I don't think would be an issue if you are staying there, park in from of Koropokkuru, just up the lane.
     
  42. DPS Driver

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    What a crock of sh!te. There are heaps of places in Hokkaido where you could easily spend 4 months and not get bored. Look harder.
     
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    Thanks for the help! Looks like there are a couple of options to work with.

    By the way, completely agree with DPS Driver, plenty of options in Hokkaido to keep you busy if you were spending a season! Hire a car and go exploring, there is plenty of potential if you know what you're doing and not afraid of touring around.
     
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    anyone hear if Chisenupuri will reopen for the season ?
     
  45. DPS Driver

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    I haven't heard that it is.

    If it were to open it would be by new owners / managers and I've not heard of it changing hands.
     
  46. shred_gnar

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    Ok then, fire away.
    4 months SAME resort.
    That doesn't include driving around to other resorts. Most seasonaires cant afford a car, or a rental car every second week.
     
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    ^^Stay in asahikawa and hitch.
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Sounds about accurate.
    Bit like the tiny Niseko version of the Entertainment Book..

    I'd like to see what the vouchers are for specifically, already get 10% off at places like rhythm, no point buying something that gives you even 50% off something you won't use ;)
     
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