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Niseko 2016

Discussion in 'Japan' started by blutek, Jun 3, 2015.

  1. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    And Kiroro.
     
  2. Gimp

    Gimp One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thought Moiwa would be more you @sbm, chilled vibe, BC type peeps with gear and knowledge
     
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    Gimp One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    And chilled patrollers caring about your day out the gate
     
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    Yoshi still at la Ponte?
     
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    Good music on the chairlift loudspeakers too.
     
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    nfip Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I heard some horror stories on the weekend of the complete no-brainers going down out there.
    I'm sure we all have our share to tell.
    Increasingly it seems it is not ourselves and our trusted ski buddies we need be most concerned about.
    More-so the punters up-hill.
     
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    nfip Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    My last visit it went from Greenday , to Bob Marley , to Jimi.....
     
  8. Donza

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    [​IMG]

    On this day we had CC music factory, Vangelis into powderfinger.....
    and 13 people on the hill for the day.
    This pic is 2.30..3pm ish
     
  9. Gimp

    Gimp One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    They is big on Bob mon. Unlike homozono years ago pumping out death metal where every second word was f¥@&k, don't think the bosses spoke much engrish in those days
     
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    good to hear ,
    the Patrol couldnt care about the guy i pulled out of the Moiwa creek a while back, who had tripped up on their loose ropes,
    let alone all the punters who traversed right past the scene,

    was severly unimpressed, hope to never see that on/ off my home fields
     
  11. muzzalicious123

    muzzalicious123 First Runs

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    Hey. We'll be driving from Chitose to Annupuri in a week and a bit. Where/what would be the easiest supermarket to access on the way to stock up on some food and milk? Thanks in advance.
     
  12. blutek

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    The usual are in Kutchan - Max Value, or the Co-op next to JR.
    But from Annupuri, Niseko Town is close (but don't know about the supermarket).
     
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    Tanuki A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Co-op next to the JR station looked fully stocked
     
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    Cool:cool:
     
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    travelislife One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yep I just looked at the map, pretty ridiculous. It is all for 'shopping' and a beginners ski run when it is already really flat around the bottom of Niseko Village. Crazy investment if you ask me, but I am guessing they are aiming at all those Chinese tourists who will buy gondola tickets to go between the shops and the hotel!
     
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    Oh man.
    what a waste of a press announcement
     
  20. Ramenman

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    Haha, you are right, but YTL is a Malaysian company, and it never snows in Malaysia, so such a very easy boring terrain is good enough to attract & entertain first timer Malaysians and other Southeast Asians who have never seen snow before;)
     
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  21. Ramenman

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    At this rate, they will open Haru no Taki and Yu no Sawa for experts under avalanche control;)?(I heard & read they might make Haru no Taki accessible for limited number of experts in the future). I wonder who will buy Chisenupuri, it's on sale now.
     
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    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    The highest normal resort lifted point in Japan is at Shiga Kogen (Yokoteyama, 2307m), however, it's not the highest lifted point for skiing/boarding in Japan.
    Senjojiki Cirque is the highest lifted point, and usually operates from April until the end of May. (Nagano Prefecture)

    The Komagatake Ropeway takes you to 2612m, and the Senjojiki Cirque T-bar takes you up another 300m. (around 2900m)

    [​IMG]
     
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  23. Donza

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    Never.
    IMO.
     
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    Vermillion Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    This. Those are not areas that can be 'controlled' prior to allowing people to ski on them. Haru no taki especially. Those areas WILL kill people, there's no way.
     
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  25. Ramenman

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    A good news for people who want to work and settle in Niseko (or near Niseko).
    http://dd.hokkaido-np.co.jp/news/economy/economy/1-0242188.html

    Shiribeshi government want you to settle in Shiribeshi now:thumbs:. Shiribeshi is the sub-prefecture of Hokkaido where there are Kutchan, Niseko, Rusutsu, Kiroro, Otaru, etc. After ski season ends, a lot of foreigners who were working in ski resort villages in Shiribeshi leave Shiribeshi. Now Shiribeshi government want them to keep living in Shiribeshi, working for the local fishing industry, agricultural industry, tourism industry, or working as language teachers in non ski season. The local government will help you find & get a job, a place to live, etc;)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiribeshi_Subprefecture
     
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  26. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    I was over there today for lunch at greenleaf - yes it's phlat but sooo many beginners. It will be good for them.
     
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    SP comes to Japan. :p
     
  28. Ramenman

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    Yep, and we should not forget that a Malaysian company bought Niseko Village and a Hong Kong based company bought Hanazono. It never snows in Malaysia and Hong Kong, so most visitors from Malaysia and Hong Kong are beginners, and seeing snow, shopping, and eating some yummy Japanese foods + super easy slopes are enough for the majority of them;)

    Ah, Happy Birthday:cheers:
     
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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    LOL Niseko to become beginners mecca for Asian tourists. Love it, fine by me. Keep them there.
    Funny also reading Luke Hurford now senior VP for the company after promoting Furano tourism in mid 2000's.
     
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    Yep, for very rich Asian tourists. Niseko is the most expensive ski resort in Japan and too expensive for most Asian tourists in Japan. There are many millionaires in Hong Kong and Malaysia(including Singapore), so Niseko Village and Niseko Hanazono are mainly for them. Most other Asian tourists to Japan will go to ski resorts like Gala Yuzawa.
     
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    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Casino then becomes almost inevitable, if they ever get legalised in Japan.
     
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  32. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Ha! Domo Arogatou Gozaimasu! :cheers:
    It's been an awesome day.
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Niseko VILLAGE. The Gash. They're not skilled enough to go up and over :thumbs:
     
  34. Heinz

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    LOL Is The Gash now the official term for Higashiyama? I had assumed it was just a Donzaism.
     
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    Lol...cool kids called it the gash yonks ago
     
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    What a load of scheisse!! The last thing Japan needs is more poorly designed lifts and tacky shopping experiences. There is more than enough lifts traversing flat volcanic aprons all across northern Japan.
     
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    Is there a shuttle from hirafu to moiwa? Can anyone help with the details? I know you can ski, but I want to take my gf, she's not up to much bc.

    Can't deal with the swarms here... its crazy. Never seen a mountain get so tracked out so fast. Even in March! The pow was good... for like 2 hours. Plenty of other places in Hokkaido you can ride fresh the whole day.. or multiple days. Crowds + high prices + no culture = pretty low on my list of places to return to in Hokkaido.
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    LOL
    Yes there is a shuttle.
    Leaves from main bus stop. Or you can ski over.
    But by now that's probably tracked too. New snow on the way.
    Get yourself to Hanazono for lift opening after freshies - do shinya or the trees left of shinya on repeat. You can thank me later.
     
  41. LMB

    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Demand = supply.
    They're here and willing to spend.
     
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    Do you mean skiers left of shinya?
    We did blueberries and strawberries.

    Maybe I'm being too harsh... if there was 20cm fresh everyday (looks like there has been close to it in Feb), perhaps I could handle it. Still... I wouldn't come back for more than a few days.

    Our guide the other day said Sapporo was where its at and I agree. Teine, Kiroro, Kokusai, Rusutsu all doable without car. Plus a handful of smaller fields. Way cheaper food and accom, way better nightlife, way more to do on days off.
     
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    LMB Old but definitely not Crusty! Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yes, Skiers Left of Shinya.
    Seems to be ignored by those looking for Strawberrys and Blueberries.... Tracks out later than those.

    I'd agree with Kiroro.
    I love that place.

    Rusutsu - it's great but being based there would do my head in (personal preference YMMV)

    The others are still on my to do list.

    And yes, I totally agree that fresh every day makes it better LOL
    But I wouldn't do the same spot on repeat day in and day out. No matter how good you've gotta mix it up a bit!

    RE: days off.
    The Nikka distillery in Yoichi.
    I'm not a Whisky drinker but I spent hours there and loved it!
     
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    Is anyone able to recommend an affordable hotel/apartment in Niseko?
     
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    LOL good luck with that. What is your definition of affordable?
     
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    I left before the cool kids arrived
     
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    I heard 8 places are rumored as casino sites. Hokkaido (I guess somewhere around Niseko, Sapporo or the international airport), Chiba(=Tokyo bay), Tokyo (=Tokyo bay), Kanagawa(=Yokohama bay), Osaka(=Osaka bay), Nagasaki(=near Huis Ten Bosch, the Dutch theme park), Okinawa, and Miyazaki(Why Miyazaki?).
     
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    And guaranteed I won't be visiting any of them if they happen.
     
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    The funny thing is, some Japanese people around me who hate gambling want casinos legalized. I mean, they hate pachinko very much and they think if casinos are legalized, pachinko hall operators will go bankrupt because a lot of people who like gambling will go to casinos instead of pachinko halls . Even if casinos get legalized, they will be controlled by the government very strictly and they can't build casinos freely.

    Two or three casinos might be built in the next ten years, but never more than four, I assume.
     
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    I guess I can understand that sentiment. I hate pachinko parlours, casinos and gambling in general. When in Sendai last weekend I was leaving the shopping mall by the railway station as it was 9pm and they were closing. Unfortunately the exit I took was directly into a pachinko place and I was stuck in there for the next 30 or so seconds desperately trying to find the exit outside. Can't stand that noise and smoke. A casino I guess would be less bad on that front, but I still have always had zero interest in visiting them wherever they are.
     
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