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I heard some horror stories on the weekend of the complete no-brainers going down out there.
I'm sure we all have our share to tell.
Increasingly it seems it is not ourselves and our trusted ski buddies we need be most concerned about.
More-so the punters up-hill.
 

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My last visit it went from Greenday , to Bob Marley , to Jimi.....
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On this day we had CC music factory, Vangelis into powderfinger.....
and 13 people on the hill for the day.
This pic is 2.30..3pm ish
 

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They is big on Bob mon. Unlike homozono years ago pumping out death metal where every second word was f¥@&k, don't think the bosses spoke much engrish in those days
 

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Went to Moiwa today, sure was more my scene @Gimp 20cm of wet fresh on slightly crusty leftovers. More on lee slopes, less on windward slopes.

Patrol was top notch, they let the resort get tracked out before opening gate 10 and then 6 a little later. Good signage - and they had a beacon checker at the gate, with patrol turning away people without packs! Westerner patroller on duty gave us a run down on the way out. Great management.

good to hear ,
the Patrol couldnt care about the guy i pulled out of the Moiwa creek a while back, who had tripped up on their loose ropes,
let alone all the punters who traversed right past the scene,

was severly unimpressed, hope to never see that on/ off my home fields
 

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Hey. We'll be driving from Chitose to Annupuri in a week and a bit. Where/what would be the easiest supermarket to access on the way to stock up on some food and milk? Thanks in advance.
 

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This upgrade will also shift the lift station around 170 meters below its current location, making it an easy slide from the gondola station to the lift station and increase the level of access and accessibility to all courses

Cool:cool:
 

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Yep I just looked at the map, pretty ridiculous. It is all for 'shopping' and a beginners ski run when it is already really flat around the bottom of Niseko Village. Crazy investment if you ask me, but I am guessing they are aiming at all those Chinese tourists who will buy gondola tickets to go between the shops and the hotel!
 
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Yep I just looked at the map, pretty ridiculous. It is all for 'shopping' and a beginners ski run when it is already really flat around the bottom of Niseko Village. Crazy investment if you ask me, but I am guessing they are aiming at all those Chinese tourists who will buy gondola tickets to go between the shops and the hotel!

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

wtf is that?
$$$ waste.

Haha, you are right, but YTL is a Malaysian company, and it never snows in Malaysia, so such a very easy boring terrain is good enough to attract & entertain first timer Malaysians and other Southeast Asians who have never seen snow before;)
 
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At this rate, they will open Haru no Taki and Yu no Sawa for experts under avalanche control;)?(I heard & read they might make Haru no Taki accessible for limited number of experts in the future). I wonder who will buy Chisenupuri, it's on sale now.
 

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Yep, right, basically, oxygen deprivation is not an issue when skiing in Japan. Even the highest lifted point of Japanese ski resorts is about 2,300m above sea level(it's Shiga Kogen), and it's even lower than the base elevation of Vail and most other ski resorts in Colorado.
The highest normal resort lifted point in Japan is at Shiga Kogen (Yokoteyama, 2307m), however, it's not the highest lifted point for skiing/boarding in Japan.
Senjojiki Cirque is the highest lifted point, and usually operates from April until the end of May. (Nagano Prefecture)

The Komagatake Ropeway takes you to 2612m, and the Senjojiki Cirque T-bar takes you up another 300m. (around 2900m)

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At this rate, they will open Haru no Taki and Yu no Sawa for experts under avalanche control;)?(I heard & read they might make Haru no Taki accessible for limited number of experts in the future). I wonder who will buy Chisenupuri, it's on sale now.
Never.
IMO.
 
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A good news for people who want to work and settle in Niseko (or near Niseko).
http://dd.hokkaido-np.co.jp/news/economy/economy/1-0242188.html

Shiribeshi government want you to settle in Shiribeshi now:thumbs:. Shiribeshi is the sub-prefecture of Hokkaido where there are Kutchan, Niseko, Rusutsu, Kiroro, Otaru, etc. After ski season ends, a lot of foreigners who were working in ski resort villages in Shiribeshi leave Shiribeshi. Now Shiribeshi government want them to keep living in Shiribeshi, working for the local fishing industry, agricultural industry, tourism industry, or working as language teachers in non ski season. The local government will help you find & get a job, a place to live, etc;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiribeshi_Subprefecture
 
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I was over there today for lunch at greenleaf - yes it's phlat but sooo many beginners. It will be good for them.

Yep, and we should not forget that a Malaysian company bought Niseko Village and a Hong Kong based company bought Hanazono. It never snows in Malaysia and Hong Kong, so most visitors from Malaysia and Hong Kong are beginners, and seeing snow, shopping, and eating some yummy Japanese foods + super easy slopes are enough for the majority of them;)

Ah, Happy Birthday:cheers:
 
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LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

wtf is that?
$$$ waste.

LOL Niseko to become beginners mecca for Asian tourists. Love it, fine by me. Keep them there.
Funny also reading Luke Hurford now senior VP for the company after promoting Furano tourism in mid 2000's.
 

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LOL Niseko to become beginners mecca for Asian tourists.

Yep, for very rich Asian tourists. Niseko is the most expensive ski resort in Japan and too expensive for most Asian tourists in Japan. There are many millionaires in Hong Kong and Malaysia(including Singapore), so Niseko Village and Niseko Hanazono are mainly for them. Most other Asian tourists to Japan will go to ski resorts like Gala Yuzawa.
 

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Casino then becomes almost inevitable, if they ever get legalised in Japan.
 
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Yep, and we should not forget that a Malaysian company bought Niseko Village and a Hong Kong based company bought Hanazono. It never snows in Malaysia and Hong Kong, so most visitors from Malaysia and Hong Kong are beginners, and seeing snow, shopping, and eating some yummy Japanese foods + super easy slopes are enough for the majority of them;)

Ah, Happy Birthday:cheers:
Ha! Domo Arogatou Gozaimasu! :cheers:
It's been an awesome day.
 
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LOL Niseko to become beginners mecca for Asian tourists. Love it, fine by me. Keep them there.
Funny also reading Luke Hurford now senior VP for the company after promoting Furano tourism in mid 2000's.
Niseko VILLAGE. The Gash. They're not skilled enough to go up and over :thumbs:
 

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LOL Is The Gash now the official term for Higashiyama? I had assumed it was just a Donzaism.
 
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What a load of scheisse!! The last thing Japan needs is more poorly designed lifts and tacky shopping experiences. There is more than enough lifts traversing flat volcanic aprons all across northern Japan.
 

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Is there a shuttle from hirafu to moiwa? Can anyone help with the details? I know you can ski, but I want to take my gf, she's not up to much bc.

Can't deal with the swarms here... its crazy. Never seen a mountain get so tracked out so fast. Even in March! The pow was good... for like 2 hours. Plenty of other places in Hokkaido you can ride fresh the whole day.. or multiple days. Crowds + high prices + no culture = pretty low on my list of places to return to in Hokkaido.
 
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Is there a shuttle from hirafu to moiwa? Can anyone help with the details? I know you can ski, but I want to take my gf, she's not up to much bc.

Can't deal with the swarms here... its crazy. Never seen a mountain get so tracked out so fast. Even in March! The pow was good... for like 2 hours. Plenty of other places in Hokkaido you can ride fresh the whole day.. or multiple days. Crowds + high prices + no culture = pretty low on my list of places to return to in Hokkaido.
LOL
Yes there is a shuttle.
Leaves from main bus stop. Or you can ski over.
But by now that's probably tracked too. New snow on the way.
Get yourself to Hanazono for lift opening after freshies - do shinya or the trees left of shinya on repeat. You can thank me later.
 

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What a load of scheisse!! The last thing Japan needs is more poorly designed lifts and tacky shopping experiences. There is more than enough lifts traversing flat volcanic aprons all across northern Japan.
Demand = supply.
They're here and willing to spend.
 
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Do you mean skiers left of shinya?
We did blueberries and strawberries.

Maybe I'm being too harsh... if there was 20cm fresh everyday (looks like there has been close to it in Feb), perhaps I could handle it. Still... I wouldn't come back for more than a few days.

Our guide the other day said Sapporo was where its at and I agree. Teine, Kiroro, Kokusai, Rusutsu all doable without car. Plus a handful of smaller fields. Way cheaper food and accom, way better nightlife, way more to do on days off.
 

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Do you mean skiers left of shinya?
We did blueberries and strawberries.

Maybe I'm being too harsh... if there was 20cm fresh everyday (looks like there has been close to it in Feb), perhaps I could handle it. Still... I wouldn't come back for more than a few days.

Our guide the other day said Sapporo was where its at and I agree. Teine, Kiroro, Kokusai, Rusutsu all doable without car. Plus a handful of smaller fields. Way cheaper food and accom, way better nightlife, way more to do on days off.
Yes, Skiers Left of Shinya.
Seems to be ignored by those looking for Strawberrys and Blueberries.... Tracks out later than those.

I'd agree with Kiroro.
I love that place.

Rusutsu - it's great but being based there would do my head in (personal preference YMMV)

The others are still on my to do list.

And yes, I totally agree that fresh every day makes it better LOL
But I wouldn't do the same spot on repeat day in and day out. No matter how good you've gotta mix it up a bit!

RE: days off.
The Nikka distillery in Yoichi.
I'm not a Whisky drinker but I spent hours there and loved it!
 

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Casino then becomes almost inevitable, if they ever get legalised in Japan.

I heard 8 places are rumored as casino sites. Hokkaido (I guess somewhere around Niseko, Sapporo or the international airport), Chiba(=Tokyo bay), Tokyo (=Tokyo bay), Kanagawa(=Yokohama bay), Osaka(=Osaka bay), Nagasaki(=near Huis Ten Bosch, the Dutch theme park), Okinawa, and Miyazaki(Why Miyazaki?).
 

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I heard 8 places are rumored as casino sites. Hokkaido (I guess somewhere around Niseko, Sapporo or the international airport), Chiba(=Tokyo bay), Tokyo (=Tokyo bay), Kanagawa(=Yokohama bay), Osaka(=Osaka bay), Nagasaki(=near Huis Ten Bosch, the Dutch theme park), Okinawa, and Miyazaki(Why Miyazaki?).

And guaranteed I won't be visiting any of them if they happen.
 

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And guaranteed I won't be visiting any of them if they happen.

The funny thing is, some Japanese people around me who hate gambling want casinos legalized. I mean, they hate pachinko very much and they think if casinos are legalized, pachinko hall operators will go bankrupt because a lot of people who like gambling will go to casinos instead of pachinko halls . Even if casinos get legalized, they will be controlled by the government very strictly and they can't build casinos freely.

Two or three casinos might be built in the next ten years, but never more than four, I assume.
 

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I guess I can understand that sentiment. I hate pachinko parlours, casinos and gambling in general. When in Sendai last weekend I was leaving the shopping mall by the railway station as it was 9pm and they were closing. Unfortunately the exit I took was directly into a pachinko place and I was stuck in there for the next 30 or so seconds desperately trying to find the exit outside. Can't stand that noise and smoke. A casino I guess would be less bad on that front, but I still have always had zero interest in visiting them wherever they are.
 
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