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Discussion in 'Thredbo' started by Sean Sunley, Mar 22, 2018.
Thredbo have confirmed there will be no snow play this winter.
That's right. No one is allowed to have fun. Only wealthy people who pay the resort big bucks should be able to enjoy what nature provides in a national park.
Or you can drive up the road to Dead Horse Gap.
Or go to Perisher or Selwyn.
Nature built the resort?
In fairness. The snow play area at thredbo is man made.
Or just go to Japan and let the kids play in the snow in the yard.
Might it be because snow play usually has people using toboggans and they can be a hazard to others doing snow play e.g. verbotten on the skitube from Perisher terminal up to Blue Cow?
Last time I was in Japan the heighbours were snowboarding off the roof of their accommodation
I can understand this response if you don’t understand how Thredbo is laid out and where the snowplay area was, and what it consisted of....but it really has nothing to do with wealth and privilege denying the average Joe access.
It was a snowmade patch on the tennis courts right near where they are constructing the new Gondola. Maybe in the course of remodelling and upgrading the resort over the coming years they’ll make a dedicated and much better/safer area.
It really was quite the token patch anyway - much better places for snowplay.
I’ve got my folks here at the moment for snowplay and I’d love to bring my nieces and nephews!! But I think Aus will be more accessible, they don’t even have passports, and a day at the movies is financially out of reach for them - so it’d be all on me to provide it. But I want to give them that experience so much it’s almost a physical pain! I reckon at trip to Selwyn might be on the cards.
There is a whole thread that has dealt with this issue.
Yes snow sports in Australia are definitely not a poor mans activity. I just checked the price for a week's worth of accommodation in Thredbo during school holidays, and our family's airfares to Japan and back cost us LESS !
Was that at around midnight with @LMB leading the charge after apres??
Problem is in Buller at least is that my wife and I pay over $310 to go ski for a day trip and the resources are all taken up by “snowplay” people who arrive by the van load with esky’s and suit cases of food take up all the tables and toilets and we end up sitting in the snow and waiting 45min for a bus to get back to the car while they split a tank of fuel and a $50 resort entry between 8.
People are welcome to play in the snow pretty much anywhere.
Anywhere except the middle of thredbo.
Catch a foot passenger lift up merritts for $25 and get better snow and plenty of space
and in a safer environment
We do try to tell people this!
And great views
Or catch kosci chair up to the top in all its glory
Gee elitist much?
There is a prolific poster on this forum whos motto is - happy to share. Not a bad ethos imo.
Those same people come to my beach. ..and set up tents. Ruining the view. Cooking their weird food. ....
There is not 1000 spare carparks at thredbo. When there is, all are welcome. Until then, parks go to existing paying customers.
Ever been to Bondi?
There's your problem.
Every year JB & I go for a week and spend less on the total trip than it would cost to fly overseas - by not staying at the ridiculously overpriced resorts and not going during school holidays.
How old are your kids ? .........Mine are reaching the age where I prefer them not to miss weeks of school, so that means school holiday ski trips.
This has been well dealt with in the other Thread, snow play people are not causing the parking issue! Period! They turn up after everyone else.
I only know one forum member on here who is affected by the parking and that is because he turns up after lunch on a Saturday.
No one should ever have to lap the entire village looking for a park.
But they do.
Getting there early is not a real world solution for the masses.
Parking there is, like, seven billion dollars an hour. Or something.
True, parking is a limited resource and as skier numbers increase with cheap season tickets It isn’t going to improve. I have increased my skier days from 7 to over 20 (plus summer days and o/s) and getting great value (not as good as Telecrag or Tele whippet) and I’m sure I’m not alone.
Should always be 5-10% unemployed and spare carparks.
If we were in Europe there would be a regular train from Cooma via Berridale via Jindy and up the valley to Thredbo with a station at the SkiTube.
But alas we are in Oz.
Lovely ideal but how would you make that a reality, and building a multi story car park probably isn’t the answer.
Or even a bus
I’m not sure we do simple solutions in Oz.
Because a bus would still be whatever a bus costs, +$15pp or whatever it is for Park fees. It’s insane.
The Valley Terminal snow play area will be greatly impacted by the new Merritts chair drive station and load and access associated snow making so .... time to move people on.
Golf course has to go. It's a 9hole joke for the few and it looks good in the advertising.
Put new multistory parks and land release in there.
Who said golfers could have 30% of the land and not use or pay for it.
No chance of getting a multi-storey car park anywhere and I’d say golf course would be hardest. I agree it’s a luxury piece of dirt but it’s hard enough getting approval for a couple of pylons.
Get rid of buses and over night car parks would be a good start
I know some people love the beach but that charge is definitely only targeting the insanely wealthy!
ever paid for parking in bondi!?
I've got fines.. In Roscoe st
See this is where the resort is short sighted...
Yes the COST is the bus fare plus the park entry fees, but the benefit to Thredbo of encouraging bus use is MASSIVE, so they should subsidise. Make a deal with parks that the official Thredbo bus entries get a discount price on park entry fees (like half price), and then subsidise the bus ticket price.
It’s cheaper than building more parking, there’s no lengthy negotiations for building approval and it achieves a similar outcome.
Buses seem to work in Banff, if you think Thredbo has a parking issue check out Sunshine, they would have half the space.
The bus price could be an easy add on to the season pass.
Snow play is a mental illness anyway. Who in their right mind would drive all that way to play in the dregs at the bottom of the hill? Next step...for Perisher is to get rid of all those buses stuffing up Smiggs every Saturday morning.
Those buses should be at the Tube except .... tube costs are higher.
Crazy situation where the very infrastructure designed to remove cars from the park, as DA approved, is priced to have the opposite effect.
Do you have kids?
I like the buses to Jindy idea . Surely this would be preferable for national parks management too . Discounted parks entry for bus usage with a private operator working in conjunction with resorts ( even if they didn't get on board state govt here in Newcastle subsidise buses with no one on them that used to run hourly and now run every 30 mins and still no one uses them )