North America's 2016-2017 season. (USA/Canada)

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  1. Born2ski

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    The Old Farmers' Almanac forecasts are out.

    Winter Weather Forecast 2016 – 2017
    The Winter Weather Forecast from the Old Farmer’s Almanac is here. We’re less than 100 days away from opening day at some resorts in North America and the question on everyone’s mind is: Where will it snow?

    The Old Farmers’ Almanac released their long range Winter Weather Forecast for 2016-2017, and things are looking good for a strong winter in North America. Their regional forecasts, which are calculated 18 months in advance and claim to have an 80% accuracy rate, purport the Northeast and Pacific Northwest to have the most favorable winters for snow enthusiasts.

    Dive into their regional winter weather predictions for a glimmer of where you could score the deepest days this year, and stay tuned for NOAA’s official Long Range Winter Prediction and dropping later this month.

    More detail here -
    http://snowboarding.transworld.net/...armers-almanac-2016-2017/#u0etcIIGdtKfY17q.99

    I'm happy with their forecast. :D

    Southern British Columbia

    Winter will be colder than normal, with above-normal precipitation and snowfall. The coldest periods will be in early and mid- to late December and mid- to late January, with the snowiest periods in early and mid-December and mid-January.
     
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    Kicking Horse also reporting light snowfalls the last few days
     
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    I notice the Colorado, Grand Targhee & Grand Tetons got an inch or so on Tuesday morning.
     
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    When a weather forecaster tells you "I have no idea". I had an interesting chat with the chief meteorologist with Open Snow about the upcoming North American season and he reckons anyone that is giving a seasonal analysis is guessing as there's nothing to back it up. An interesting and different perspective - I appreciate his honesty!
    http://thesnowgauge.net/united-stat...forecasters-could-be-having-a-lend/#more-1729
     
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    Kinda refreshing to hear from an expert tell the truth.

    The misses and I are moving to Canada for a few years Feb next year, so I have been sucked into reading long term forecasts already, however I have taken them with a grain of salt, but pretty much everything I have read has been for a bumper season.
    We are moving to the East coast of Canada and all these long term forecasts are calling for a really cold, including one I read saying possible record winter.
    All this is based off the breakdown of the El Nino into a more La Nina pattern and last time this happened Toronto had a record winter in terms of temps and snowfall. But the report states there is no actual evidence of this pattern with alot of flip flopping.
    Doing 3 weeks of skiing on the way over so keeping an eye on the Canadian Rockies forecasts which have a similar theme.

    But then again it is no different to the Aussie snow fields in terms of talking up forecasts, conditions, long term forecast to drive the marketing team into $$$ spent, in this day and age I'm assuming Nth America is no different.

    Then again, even a bad year for places like Whistler, Big White, Sun peaks, LL etc still beats the crap out of a good year in Aus
     
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    Good luck with the move :thumbs:
     
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    Cheers mate.

    Looking forward to it.
     
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    Sorry to put a dampener on it @Chowder11 but east coast Canada isn't the greatest for skiing. You've got Quebec which has Tremblent, Mt St Anne and Stoneham. You can quite easily trip down to some of the US resorts in Vermont though which aren't too shabby, like Stowe, Mt Snow, etc.

    As a general rule observing weather in the past over there, the east side has a decent winter every few years and tends to have a good winter when the west coast is having a below average season.

    Good luck with the move though!
     
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    Nah no dampener.
    I have done a fair bit of research into the Eastern Nt American snow fields and I'm fully aware of what's there/lack off.
    The move isn't far from skiing based anyway, so not to worried about that at this stage.

    There are a few small (and I mean small) resorts situated not to far from Toronto which will keep the SDS at bay whilst we are there, but we will definitely do some trips West. Cheap internal flights to Calgary/Vancouver etc.....
    At the end of the day we are much closer than Australia.

    Its the beaches and surf which Im going to miss the most about this exercise.
     
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    You're right, there are a couple of smaller hills closer to TO where you can get your fix.

    Blue Mountain is probably the most well known up around Wasaga Beach.

    Also, closer to TO is another called Mt St Louis Moonstone.

    There's probably others but they are the 2 I'm aware of......
     
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    Yep, had a look at Blue Mountain just out of Collingwood.
    Had a look a a few youtube home video's of people skiing there and it looks acceptable for a slide, if you can get up there after a fresh snowfall I think it would be pretty good.

    There is also Horseshoe just out of Barrie which looks ok also.
    These resorts are all about a 90 minute drive from Downtown Toronto, so that is also a big positive, making day trips so easy.

    Much better than the 4.5-5 hour drive to Hotham/Falls creek from Melbourne.
     
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    Jackson Hole has already wound up with nearly 2 feet of fresh in the last few days...

     
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    Nice start.
    Looks like a few of the Canadian rockies got a bit over the last week or so as well
     
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    Nice.

    Have always found Snow-Forecast way over forecasts Whistler though, but is pretty good for temps.

    So id expect to see about half to 3/4's of those totals on the peaks.
    Still excellent to have half a meter to a meter this time of the year.
     
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    Especially considering there's already snow up there.

    Today's webcam.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Have seen a few social media photos of some local Whislter pros already skiing the peaks around the area.
    Aka Dana Flahr, Stan Rey
     
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    Getting ready for the vertical metre contest I see... ;)
     
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    Yep.
    Plus they get paid by their sponsors to do these things.
    Im pretty sure Stan Rey is sponsored by Whistler so they would be demanding him to be sending early season snow turns to get the punters froth going.
    He absolutely rips though.
     
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    Mega storm currently hitting Pacific Northwest.
     
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    From TGR

    UP TO 10 FEET FORECASTED MT.BAKER BY SUNDAY
    I didn't see anything posted for the PNW on the first page, so thought I'd put this up. it starts from October 6th thru sunday and you are warned that it is from one of them knuckle dragger climate denier sites, but I don't care; an early snow storm is an early snow storm:

    https://iceagenow.info/10-ft-305-cm-...-sunday-night/

    Up to 10 ft (305 cm) of snow for Mt Baker by Sunday night

    Tonight
    Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 20. Breezy, with a south wind 24 to 26 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total nighttime snow accumulation of 23 to 29 inches possible.
    Friday
    Snow showers. High near 27. Breezy, with a west southwest wind 23 to 28 mph, with gusts as high as 36 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 10 to 16 inches possible.
    Friday Night
    A chance of snow showers before 11pm, then snow likely after 11pm. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 24. Breezy, with a west southwest wind 18 to 23 mph becoming west southwest 8 to 13 mph after midnight. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of around an inch possible.
    Saturday
    Snow. High near 33. South southwest wind 14 to 16 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 8 to 12 inches possible.
    Saturday Night
    Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 30. Southwest wind around 18 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 22 to 28 inches possible.
    Sunday
    Snow. High near 33. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 12 to 18 inches possible.
    Sunday Night
    Snow. Low around 28. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 13 to 19 inches possible.
     
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    6th Oct, I am a little confused. Did this eventuate?
    Looks like not...

    That said, Canadian resorts are kicking things off with an good pre-season.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Baker resort was a bit to low and warm for this storm.
    Mostly fell as rain.
    Whistler Mid-station and above has copped a good 1m+ from this. Looking at the cams it looks like a mid Feb storm.

    More to come later this week also, but starts off a bit warm with freeze levels above peak level dropping later on.
    Nice sticky base building snow though.
     
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    Was looking at the cams at Mt Bachelor yesterday. Looked like they have received plenty!!!
    On track to open November 25.
     
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    Jackson Hole getting it's weekly top-up (LIVE).
     
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    Awesome
     
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    Most West and Rockies resorts received something overnight. 8" for Timberline, OR. Jackson reported 12" on their insta.

     
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    Well... NW States season looking healthy with this sort of snow-porn for OCTOBER!
     
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    Such an awesome shot
     
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    RE: US Season ahead.
    - NOAA Season Forecast
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    In other words. Head North.
     
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    Agreed (but then I think anything with snow in it is an awesome shot :D)

    Where? Can see or the runs in the treeline - is it lifted to the peak?

    Re the NOAA forecast @POW_hungry - BAH HUMBUG :p
     
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    It is Mt Bachelor in Oregon.
    Not sure if it is lifted to the top though
     
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    Quick google images search of the trail map. Looks like it is lifted to pretty much the peak.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Cheers @Chowder11 - of course if I had just actually clicked POW's pic it overlays a few tabs 1 at the peak named mtbachelor LOL

    Reason why I clicked was to see if it zoomed as you should be able to see the chair from your trail map as the perspective/orientation is pretty much the same vs pic and trailmap thanks to that bowl up the top providing a good reference. Anyway - Its pretty cool looking at it in Google Maps.
     
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    Would love to go top-bottom on a bluebird pow day.
    Mt Hood not to far from there is a similar set-up on a volcano, looks pretty nice aslo, would love to tick those 2 joints off the to-ski-list.
     
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    50cm snow depth at the top of Red Mountain in Canada and it's even snowing down to the base of the resort.

    http://www.redresort.com/mountain/report/

    Also some more good falls at Fernie with snow moving further down the mountain.

    [​IMG]
    (cam will update)

    Looking good for an early start to the season. :D
     
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    North American Season is a go!!!
     
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    Looks like the East coast resorts got their first snowfall over night
     
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    Base Elevation 653m asl i.e.: same elevation as Canberra so even when it snows down low can be like skiing the bottom of Super-trail. Even top of Whistler is only 2,182m no wonder Aussies love it, its just like home. :) and before you go off yes I am making a slightly tongue in cheek point.
     
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    Skiing home at the end of the day, the bottom few hundred meters of vert is like skiing Aus.
    Its pretty cool doing top to bottom on a pow day, you get dry pow, wet pow and aussie pow all in one long quad burning run.
     
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    Approaching 20cm in the last 24hrs for Fernie.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Haven't been there but I've heard Bachelor is epic - especially good is the terrain for snowboarding too.