North America's 2016-2017 season. (USA/Canada)

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  1. Chowder11

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    They will need to, or need to look at a maximum ticket per day.
    If it keeps going like this its going to get out of control quickly
     
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    How's that Squamish development coming along...? Agree totally about Whistler, it can be heaven or hell depending on the day. Even given the crowds the last time I spent any time there (2010/11) it would be a non-event if the terrain wasn't so good. Probably not somewhere I'm going to go back to for a serious snow trip, maybe as a warm up heading out of Vancouver.
     
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    The Vail ownership model may not help. I was chatting with a veteran ski industry local recently and he told me that on the 29th Dec just gone, Whistler had 4500 more people than its previous highest daily attendance record. His theory is that the flooding of the market with discount season passes, under the Vail model, is the reason, and that it will only get worse. Just his theory mind you, only time will tell.
     
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    Contributing factor maybe. But you can't forget Whistler just had a thumper of a start to the season & the American dollar has reclaimed significant ground. Did you know; Whistler's previous December (2015) out-performed the 10-year visitation average? It's a resort that has moved from strength-to-strength in a busy North American market IMO.

    Aaaanyway, back on topic. Jackson, WY due for 10-15inches tonight and puking, according to the cams. Winter storm warning currently in effect.
    http://www.google.org/publicalerts/alert?aid=78ed582b98677297&hl=en&gl=AU&source=wweather

    ...like they need it.
     
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    11" of fresh cocaine in 'The Hole'. Wow, what a season they're having.
     
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    Yep the American dollar would have a lot to do with it also.
    I was chatting to a bloke from NY on a chairlift last year at Whistler, he was saying he and his family do a 2 week ski holiday out west every year, they used to do always go to Colorado.
    But he said due the the US vs CAD dollar it costs them pretty much 30% less to go to Whistler than any of the Western US resorts.
     
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    Bit like Australians an Japan!
     
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    Quiet week ahead for the US & Canadian resorts. Cold and relatively dry in the East.
    Warm, almost spring-like, clear conditions in the West ahead of the next moderate cold front on Wednesday (PNW and Cali).
     
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    EC Next 10 Days.
    20-45 inches for California (Better higher up) with higher totals possible.
    25-45 inches for parts of the BC coast
    5-12 inches for Utah and Colorado.
    15-30 inches for PNW.
    10-20 inches for interior BC Rockies
     
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    I'd be cautious of those figures given nearly-all of that QPF isn't due until Wed-Saturday next week. Looong way out yet.
    I think they're quite generous at the moment IMO.
     
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    Looking forward to seeing some of T-Rice's action from this season, could make a whole movie out of the amount of Pow they have received so far!
     
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    Perhaps you are right. I'll see how the next two days worth of charts go. Certainly not coming to any conclusions.
     
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    He's been in Japan for a while so I am sure you'll get faceshots to huck in like nobody's business. Can't wait to see his next instalment.
     
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    They're calling it now. Not just in Cali, but for the entire country.
     
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    Wow, trumps really getting down to business.:crap:
     
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    Dept of Misinformation?
     
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    will back up his negative views of climate change.

    Not really related, but I bet he uses this info in a speech soon
     
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    Should have stayed in Japan. Courteous locals and plenty of fresh. Whistler ATM is hard packed ice under a thin layer of man made on grooming & huge queues unless you know how to avoid them. Hope next system delivers for mid week.
     
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    Unless you get there on a powder day. During weekends, the smart ones go out back if it's safe.
     
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    Sounds pretty dry in Canada at the moment, I'd be heading for California or Jackson buddy
     
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    January in Canada. About right really
     
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    In fact I would not be entirely surprised if we see a big shift in patterns and North America dries right up, then Europe starts to get pounded
     
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    Europe currently looks like it is getting pounded for the next 2 weeks at least.
     
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    I think we might see the East coast of America start to fire a bit
     
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    This... from a bit over a week ago @FourSquare04
    Certainly shifted. Doesn't appear to look like a sustained scenario though, it weakens a lot for Europe over the next two weeks.
     
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    Charts have changed, coming week looks great for a European snow and then dry.
     
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    Quite a warm pool of air at 10hPa near the North Pole
    But you can see the cold pool above the Atlantic and Western Europe and the implications that would bring.
     
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    I dunno. There is more weather on the charts for Montana than I've seen in weeks right out till 10-15 of feb. that coupled with the arrival of my other half (which will keep me mostly sidelined) are all the ingredients needed for dumpage.
     
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    Super-unique scenario for MT over the next week. It benefits nicely fromsome lee side troughing of the Low hitting PNW Thursday.
    New system due Tuesday night (your time), it will ebb and flow as the High restablishes itself early next week.
     
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    60 degree temp rise, pffft I had that 2 weeks ago when I flew from the Yukon back to Sydney! Now that was being in the hurt locker! But seriously that's quite a spike!
     
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    The Monday night sneaky system just delivered a foot from late last night till this arvo so I can't wait to see what tonight producers (Tuesday). Will try get some flicks but haven't really been thinking about it. Never seen more unpredictable weather than MT.
     
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    Looks good to go IMO.
    Similar to last night is all I see on the meso analysis. Thursday looks like your other big day to 'make hay' so to speak.
    NAM 4km
     
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    No sure if anyone from Aus is currently there but would've been great to witness this avi control in Telluride over the weekend.
     
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    Thanks but 5 cm fresh Sunday was welcomed and great skiing on bluebird days since due to Artic temps. No crowds this week and sweet snow still around in secret areas today. Locals excited over forecasts of snow Friday to Tuesday if Artic air mass moves. So am I. Canadian $ and Japanese Y much friendlier to Aussie than US $. Staying here to enjoy the next few weeks.
     
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    You're in Whistler right? I wouldn't be going anywhere if I were you...
     
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    ....And we're back on for the PacNW. Snow accum totals over the next 3 days.
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    Yup, large. Fernie is on.
     
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    Yep Fernie looks like it should finally get some love over the next few days. All the locals will be closing up shop it's been a long time in between drinks
     
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    Only 167cm base for early Feb - ouch. Not Fernie's season this year. Better prey they get some follow ups over the next few weeks...
     
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    Yep even after 4m of snow some piste runs were like skiing the gibber desert! A few nice core shots to fill an edges to fix grrrrr first world problems I know.
     
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    It's been dumping since yesterday morning and looks like continuing on and off for most of the next week - it's been seriously cold as well and snow quality is excellent. I'm not going anywhere soon.
     
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    How are the crowds @Mctavish they must be ravenous?
     
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    Solid pineapple Express system bound for PacNW and lower BC this Thursday. Plenty of rain below 1300m for coastal resorts (Cali Resorts to see rain below 2000m for much of it). Snow by the weekend though.
     
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    The current situation in Jackson, WY.

    And... due for another 10" tonight...
     
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    Because of the cold, they never got that big sludgey base building system earlier in the season. So the locals told me. Then the usual January dry spell.
     
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    This was on the local news while we were there, I think it was actually something to do with a movie or some promotional activity, not strictly avi control. I do have a postcard from Telluride from 20 odd years ago which is almost the exact same image as some of the scenes from that video.

    I wonder how John Wayne and his fellow actors would have coped had the been "holed up in box canyon" during that :)
     
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    Hopefully February dumps and makes up for it. Also not uncommon to get some good storms in early March too ;)
     
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    @Wardy not sure if you're aware of this but this is a good unofficial site for Fernie: http://far.redtree.com/far

    Have a look back in the Archives and check out March 20th, 2002 ;)
     
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    Didn't know it. Thanks man will have a look
     
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    Quiet as mid week. Only on weekends if you don't know how the mountain works - brilliant snow all weekend - knee deep POW from Saturday and stashes still around today. The mountains are so big and I don't do queues. The last two weeks have been sensational due to the perishing cold temps - -14 to -16 in Alpine and -8 to -10 at village. Wind chill at 84 kph today was -36! Snow has stayed light and dry and it's Epic ATM with further dumps due from tomorrow arvo. Weekend will be busy as it's a public holiday in BC but there are always ways to not queue if you know how
     
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