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Nozawa Onsen 2014/15 Thread

Discussion in 'Japan' started by M_G, Jul 18, 2014.

  1. BobGnarly

    BobGnarly One of Us

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    all rain so far
     
  2. M_G

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    Actually they do, but in the typical Japanese manner they are too polite to show displeasure.
     
  3. dr80

    dr80 One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    The whole bogan thing is a bit of a smokescreen imo.
    I think what some here are disappointed about, is simply an increase in
    obnoxious drunken and loud boorish behaviour over the past couple of years.
     
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    Like most here we would love to ride in uncrowded conditions with local Japaneses who stick to the piste.
    Its not just Aussies its the whole Euro/ American contingent and unless things go back to expensive travel options high AUD/USD/EURO to JPY it will continue. I remember going to Bali years ago and it was an expensive once off yearly trip due to the cost and you surfed by yourself now cheap travel is an option for everyone as such it is more crowded.
    Respect your fellow travelers, locals try not to be a tool and enjoy.
    The hardcore among us hike/split board and get the goods but the majority ride in resorts so we have to cop it and it is awesome.
    Peace everyone wish I was whinging everyday about tools in Japan as opposed to the dickheads we put up with in everyday life.
     
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  5. Hunter

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    Exactly right
    Niseko is living proof of the effect of the bogan factor
     
  6. Avon_Barksdale

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    What's the latest on the 4 missing people?
     
  7. Wayne_O

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    Been to Nozawa now a couple of times, what a great little village. Having travelled Japan, not for just for skiing, a few times now, I think that people need to read up / research some basic Japanese customs / etiquette before coming here. Leaving chopsticks sticking up in your rice bowl, forgetting something in your room and wearing your snowboard boots instead of slippers provided, because you are too lazy to take them off, are big no no's. I also find it embarrassing the way some people talk to the locals with questions, ordering etc, like they are dumb, where the Japanese are more bilingual than most of us. It can be embarrassing at times.
    A couple of comments that I have found funny by locals, not just at Nozawa, but other smaller resorts are that in winter this place is like a little Sydney and that Niseko and Hakuba, are like foreign cities.
     
  8. BobGnarly

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    25cm of very heavy snow at 500m. Should be lighter up high
     
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    from the aussie facebook page

    Responsible and self sufficient exploring for all powder enthusiasts involves; knowing where your going with maps and route finding, never going alone and having the equipment and knowledge neccesarry for avoiding avalanches and facilitating self rescue. This has been something completely absent from a number of skiers and boarders this season blindly chasing powder and ski patrol have made several unnecessary rescues.
     
  10. BobGnarly

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    Its the frothers staying in his accom that are the main offenders
     
  11. hotsaki

    hotsaki One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Whats a frother?Beer drinker?
     
  12. BobGnarly

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    Frother = a person foaming at the mouth to ride pow
     
  13. Jamesc

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    One who attacks the whitestuff with no thought or care.

    Much like the crew of guys i overheard on the ropeway the other day " cant believe noone has skied that top bowl, lets go session that big cornice above it"
     
  14. hotsaki

    hotsaki One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Furano?
     
  15. Jamesc

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    Yeah big bowl lookers left of premium zone
     
  16. Pat42

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    yep for sure, curious why he has posted some common sense now, might have been busted by the locals
     
  17. PMG

    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Who's he?
     
  18. Donza

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    SIC even moreso
     
  19. Slowpony

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    Hey
    have read some previous comments about not being able to get into restaurants in Nozawa especially on the weekends
    we took a 5 minute walk down the hill last night to near the Karasawa lifts & found a nice place called Berg Hutte Miyamori
    not busy at all able to walk straight in, good food, not expensive & nice people serving us might be worth a try if you can't get in anywhere in the village & no I have no affiliation with the place
     
  20. gibbsy

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    That top and far end of town is much less busy than round the hub..... rotus root is also a great recommendation.
     
  21. BobGnarly

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    Thats cause noz is a ghost town now compared to january
     
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    wouldn't call it a ghost town yet still lots of westerners here compared to last year when I was here
     
  23. BobGnarly

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    compared to january
     
  24. Slowpony

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    still too many for me, looking for a new place for next year
     
  25. Billy Rogan

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    I would never complain about the amount of people in Nozawa or anywhere else here in Japan. It's only the bell ends who have started showing up lately that are ruining it. Saturdays obviously the busiest day of the week and usually my favourite with all the Japanese from around the country coming over, its the only day up the mountain where I really feel like I am in Japan. Waiting in a lift line here is only bad when surrounded by people talking about their hangovers or trying to describe how good melbourne is. I like to drink, I also like my country. I don't need to tell everyone about it. I am a dick. Over here I at least try not to be. The fact that the fire festival has become embarrassing to attend says a lot, even though it is obviously not always that bad (two guys near me stood facing away from the fire festival talking full volume about "amazing sydney" to some unfortunate bystanders for 30 minutes straight).

    Believe me, the locals are making enough money, hence, denying many reservations when they are not really full. The amount of cancellations and no-shows from foreigners who make reservations are a waste of time and result in loss of money for many owners. I'm no longer in Nozawa but that was my feeling of this season.
     
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    That attitude is the reason these places are changing for the worse. They dont need bogans, nobody needs bogans. Nozawa has been running for 70 years without them. The small resorts are the ones in trouble, the ones the bogans would never go to because their mates from Woolongong didn't tell them, and the zillion other people about how good it is.
     
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  27. BobGnarly

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    Just so you know, it's fairly bogan to spell wollongong like you did ;)
     
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    Waiting to see Donza's reply.. Hehehe
     
  29. Rush

    Rush Pool Room Ski Pass: Gold

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    I went to Niseko for the first time expecting Aussie bogan central. All I found was Whistler/Blackcomb, but with more Japanese restaurants and towies.

    I think the Aussie bogan factor is not longer a factor. Yes I had some loud Aussies guys in my Japanese lodge for a few nights, but they were soon replaced by loud Japanese guys a few days later.
     
  30. argento

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    did anyone notice the chav factor this time around too?
     
  31. Zimboo

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    IMO drinking is embedded into Australian culture. Many drink too much (for many different reasons).
    Many talk it up (best trip ever etc), but really are just there for a punters holiday of 1or 2 weeks. Every night on the piss (extension of behaviour back home), celebrating the days riding which was spent getting over the night before.
    On the other side of the coin are people who are very passionate about their pursuits (ski/snowboard/surfing etc.) so train for, study and then search for the perfect line. Their soul focus of each trip is the pursuit and getting the upmost out of it. This would include making an effort to understand ones surroundings, it's language/culture and looking for what is new and enjoyable.
    At the end of the day, one must wake up each morning, look at one self in the mirror and ask "really living your dreams grasshopper, have you been respectful to others in your pursuits grasshopper"?
    If you have answered yes to that then go straight for a 6 pack to celebrate, Oi Oi Oi.
     
  32. argento

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    you got that right!! One of the things that MOST surprised me about drinking culture in Australia was having a beer soon after having completed breakfast!
    :eek:
     
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    Well, breakfast would probably be at 11.55am (waking up late because of the night before), so after 5 minutes of breakfast it's past midday which is then an acceptable hour to commence drinking again. Oi Oi Oi
     
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    11:55am ... kiddies be soft
     
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    By the way, not for me dawooduck. I love a good breakfast (early), no hang overs and first lifts.
    I am older now and a lot wiser.
     
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    dawooduck relaxed and comfortable Ski Pass: Gold

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    pffftttt ... any decent young ski bum can bar dance into the wee hours and still make first lifts

    kids have all gone soft
     
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  38. Zimboo

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    I used to bar dance, was great. Not a good look when your older.
     
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    Are you kidding ??????
    Never too old !!!!!!
     
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    Was a bit surprised at 9am in the car park one morningi. Elderly Japanese man driving car gets out of car and has a beer whilst putting on his boots.
     
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    Geeee! I guess those sort of people probably use beer as mouth wash too.
     
  42. hatto

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    Age is in the mind, think old and you will be old
     
  43. Rush

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    Leunig understood this.
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  44. PMG

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    True that but the equivalent of 70 year old liver in a 40 year old body will catch up with you eventually.
    The Japanese love their beer too. Just have to see the jugs flowing at lunchtime at resort restaurants to know that.
     
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    This older one, still has heaps of fun. Just feels that to ski day after day (full days) and really keep up with his mac pace late teen kids that he must give up the bar dancing for earlier nights. It's just evolution. Not complaining as early starts keep me very happy and our "very mature" kids still say they had the best time. So all cool with me. Still like dancing just not at 3am.
     
  46. hotsaki

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    Anyone been to Appi Kogen?Many bogans?
     
  47. PMG

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    LOL I would hazard a guess that Appi would be a bogan free zone.
     
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    You can find no bogan zones much closer than that!!!
     
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    Oh well I guess that counts me and my mates out! Whats the skiing like there?I suppose I could get them under control.
     
  50. hotsaki

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    To Darwin or to Nozawa?