Nozawa Onsen /Hakuba

Percy

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Am planning a trip to Nozowa Onsen and Hakuba at the end of January 08. Plan on 5 days at each resort.Any recommendations for accommodation at these two areas. Preference pensions as this is part of the Japanese experience. Have skiied previously at Niseko and enjoyed this type of accommodation. Which is the recommended area to stay at Hakuba e.g. access to the best ski area,(experienced skiers), eating out options. Getting there from Narita. Best way to travel(easiest). Would like to include a trip on the bullet train.Any feedback most welcome.
 

TheYoungOnes

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Search is your man. (Darn, another newcomer asking the same Q's).

Alright, I'll give you some pointer.

Tokyo-Hakuba about 4-6 hours by coach.

Decent single smallish, ensuite room very near gondola @6500y/night, including meals. BigM at the top of HappoOne, incase you need your fix!

Tickets @2500y/day.

Plenty of restaurants around Hakuba within reach of the local bus route.

But like I mentioned, use your fingers and do the search in this forum. Info galore.

Welcome anyway and good luck skiing in Nagano.
 

oesterreich

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Go to Kiriya Ryokan @ Nozawa - it's a really traditional experience with great staff and awesome food. Nozawa is amazing - you'll love it!
 

millagorilla

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welcome Percy. Echo Land is a nice area to stay in Hakuba, lots of pensions around here along with a few stores, bars and restaurants. buses run regularly to the slopes, it only takes a few minutes, and it's walkable in 15.

the two main resorts in Hakuba are Happo-one and Hakuba47, both are great fun, Happo is perhaps more of a skiers mountain and you are able to ski off piste without ski patrol chasing you. but it's definitely worth trying the other resorts around the valley, others will be able to recommend which ones, let them know what you like.

for a trip like yours it's worth looking at the JREast 4 day flexi rail pass. this will give you 4 days (any 4 within a month) of travel on all JREast trains. it will include the train from Narita to Tokyo, the Shinkansen to Nagano and also many other regional and metro trains. i found it great value. for a student it was 16,000Yen and maybe 20,000yen for an adult. and if you spend time around Tokyo you can usually get away without having it stamped, as in ride the metro for free, the automatic gates don't take this pass so you have to go thru the station masters gate thingy, they just seem to wave you on thru. me and a mate had about 4 extra days travel doing this. depends how dodgy you are i guess.

there's plenty of info around, do a few searches, check out snowjapan.com. have fun
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TJ

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millagorilla said:
and if you spend time around Tokyo you can usually get away without having it stamped, as in ride the metro for free, the automatic gates don't take this pass so you have to go thru the station masters gate thingy, they just seem to wave you on thru. me and a mate had about 4 extra days travel doing this. depends how dodgy you are i guess.
Nothing dodgy. The Tokyo metro is part of the deal. You can ride the JR lines for free for a month using your pass. The first time we used it a few years back we were jumping on any line. When we got to the ticket box and showed our pass they would say something to us and because we didn't understand they would just wave us through. I now know that they were saying the pass only works on the JR lines. You do get away with a lot in Japan because of the communication problems. I do agree with Echoland in Hakuba but then again I am biased
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It does have the most restaurants and bars though. Tsugaike and Cortina are great mountains and you should try a day trip to either one. It really depends on each particular day for me. I can usually look outside and see which would be the best choice for the day. Happo is the biggest and the best but on a cloudy day you may find that Iwatake is the go. When it snows a few inches in the village then there is probably a foot at Cortina. It's all good though and you will have a ball.
 
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Percy

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Thanks for the replys and info. Most appreciated. Any thoughts on accommodation ?
 

TheYoungOnes

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Try here . They should have plenty of accomodations listed.

The one I stayed in is only a stone throw away from the lifts and a further stone throw away from the gondola at Happo. Mind you, I wopuld have liked a bit more powder, after all the anticipation. But then again, apparently, 06-07 wasn't a good year (late January). Might go back next year.

Oh, forgot. The included dinner was Japanese. Mainly cold stuff. Like 2 prawns, cold preserved fish etc. Still very edible but might not be suitable for the youngies.
 
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snaddict

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Penke Panke at Hakuba is tops. Yamizaki San runs it with his wife, son and daughter in law. They are a wonderful family and the pension rates include breakfast and dinner if you want. It's close to the lifts and not far from the The Pub. www.japanspecialists.com can book it for you.

In Nozawa the Ryokans are best. Kiriya Ryokan is perfect.
 
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snaddict

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Luke from Cairns is running Lodge Nagano at Nozawa. There was an aussie guy, Kerry, at Kiriya Ryokan who was tops too and it's more Japanese in feel. Owned by a Japanese family who have had the Ryokan for twelve generations.

Wouldn't bother with Shiga, it's 21 linked resorts so it's mammoth and the snow is beautiful, light, dry Japow. But there's nothing to do for apres at all unless you want karaoke at the Prince Hotel in BYOG private rooms.

Nozawa has a tiny basement bar run by Luke from Lodge Nagano and it also has a bar called Foot and Heaven karaoke bar, a few Japanese style pubs and the Fire Festival on January 15 (or there abouts) if you can go during Fire Festival time then do, it's a MUST.

Penke Panke is about AU$70 a night including breakfast and dinner (I think) in Hakuba. Run by a Japanese family so you get a great Japanese experience. If you don't want that (you should be in Niseko) then a Canadian called Matt owns Morino Lodge. He used to run DJ parties in Tokyo.
 

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You should also have a look at the Knowledge Bank in the Forum List, there are several Japan Knowledge Banks in there with a heap of info from members. :thumbs:
 
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