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Nozawa Onsen / Togari Onsen 19/20

Discussion in 'Japan' started by M_G, Sep 20, 2019.

  1. MrT

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    maybe with chains ?
     
  2. Lucky Pete

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    Please do not come to the mountains without 4WD/AWD and snow tyres, you can thank me later.
     
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    Sorry, can not take my car along! :D
     
  4. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Opening up that can of worms again. I'll go get my popcorn.
     
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  5. MrT

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    Anyway... Today was a great day on the mountain. Lots of new snow, and it fell quite heavy at times - light and dry also... Snowing lightly after dinner but looks to have stopped..

    Lots of mountain still needs to be opened up to spill the crowds out though... I hope that's soon.
     
  6. MrT

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    Happy New Year from the fireworks at Nozawa Onsen..
    Sorry if the pic doesn’t work well - it’s a pano...
     
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  7. MrT

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    Had a pretty god day today. It snowed for most of the day, maybe 5cm or so in the village...

    The first lift at Nagasak Gondala was a horror though - at least a 30 minute queue. Geez I envy the people who can ski later in Jan.....

    Thankfully with Hikage now open there aren't so many people hanging around up top, and there are a couple of top to bottom run options now. Ushikubi my preferred choice atm..

    Still not all runs open, but they are getting there...
     
  8. japower

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    Any recommendations for lunch places, if there are any, at the Karasawa base area? One minus for Nozawa was the lunch crowds at the popular on-mountain restaurants along Paradise and Yamabiko Station, and I recall Karasawa was quite sparse (when I skied down there without leaving the ski area). That area seemed like it only had some pensions that didn't serve food to walk-ins.
     
  9. Medicine_Shoes

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    I don't think there are any proper places at Karasawa base. If I recall correctly there might be a cafe there. Just go to Hikage base. Plenty of places there and the wait is short if it is busy.
     
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    From my memory there is at least one place on skiers left, just before the base lift at Karasawa, that serves food at Karasawa, on the mountain. It is never crowded.............
     
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  11. japower

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    Great! Will look for it when I go at the end of the month.
     
  12. hatto

    hatto One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    hasent been open for last couple years but who knows this year
     
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  13. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    Probably why no-one is in there.
     
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    Hi all!! Will be in Nozawa in February with a group of mates, one of which wants to know about drone regulations. Are there any rules regarding drones ion the Nozawa resort area? What rules apply in Japan generally for drone flying? The drone is one of those DJI Mavic Pros.

    Thanks in advance
     
  15. M_G

    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    With permission

    https://madaraokogen.com/drone-japanese-ski-resorts/

    Talk to the tourist office and/or your hotel to clarify. They may say no.

    "It’s always best to check ahead in case rules have changed. And just a warning – don’t play the dumb foreigner card if the police turn up! If you are flying a drone in a restricted area there can be some serious consequences, including being fined, having your drone confiscated, jail time and/or thrown out of the country."
     
  16. breedlee

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    Thanks MG. From other info we have found, it appears that Nozawa are more commercially minded and that private drones are not really encouraged.
     
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  17. Nozawaman

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    There is a new one opening soon in Kawasawa Apartments at the base of the valley .... where the old restaurant was .
     
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  18. japower

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    Great! Will look for it.
     
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    I've got a week in Nozawa coming up soon. Is it worth having a hire car/van in Nozawa for a week? Will I be able to step off the Shinkensen in Liyama and hire a car there?
     
  20. blowfin

    blowfin One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Depends. There is enough terrain at Nozowa to keep you busy for a week, but if the snow doesn't come it would be pretty good to have day trip options. There are plenty of ski hills to check out in the vicinity, e.g. Ryuoo is worth a look simply because of the ropeway. You could do day trips to Nagano, Snow Monkeys, Myoko, Arai... all depends on how much you feel the need to get out of Nozowa. And Yes you can hire right at the station in Iiyama, looks like Eki and Nissan for options. Make sure you get your international drivers permit if you decide to hire. Also check with your accommodation in Nozowa that you can park the car somewhere.
     
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    just FYI but it's iiyama; in case you need to search for it, a typo can make things difficult
     
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    Decent long range forecast.
     
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    @breedlee be careful with the drones... Bought one in Sapporo a few years back and didn't know I wasn't allowed to fly it 5hrs in police station had to wait for interpreter and got grilled.... All had a good laugh in the end but for a couple hours was a bit daunting
     
  24. breedlee

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    @dbc33 thanks for that, but the mate with the drone has decided against it, so we don't have to worry abt any police visits :)

    By the way whats the craft brewery scene like in Nozawa and surrounding areas? Same mate is big in this field so is keen to test out the varieties on offer (as are teh rest of us).
     
  25. blowfin

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    Not great, better off trying the local Sake's and washing them down with a Sapporo.:D
     
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  27. japower

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    Would Ryuoo have more snow accumulation if Nozawa is lacking it? Or should we just go for a ropeway ride for coffee and the scenery at the top? We'll be heading up at the end of the month. Who would have thought the end of January would be like this?!
     
  28. blowfin

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    No the snow conditions will be pretty similar between the two hills. You might get some difference out of individual periods depending on the direction the precipitation comes from, but largely they will get similar weather. On the whole I think Nozowa does tend to get a bit more snow due to geography and orientation. If you haven't been it's definitely worth a visit to Ryuoo for the ropeway alone. What you get out of the terrain there might depend on your experience and skill level. There's a heap of beginner and intermediate riding there, and decent parks, but limited advanced terrain that's worth riding when conditions aren't great. Patrol are strict too.
     
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    Thats not correct ....There is actually a craft brewery in town as well as 3 bars specialising in craft beer and more nearby .
     
  30. blowfin

    blowfin One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    That's good then, maybe there are some new venues since I was there in 2015. The craft room had a decent selection then, but I don't remember coming across much else. In general though my view on the Japanese craft beer scene - is it's not as strong as Australia. My advice would still be trying the local Sakes ;)
     
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    Can confirm this. I stopped off at one of the boutique beer bars for the first time 2 weeks ago. The Nozawa Onsen IPA is a good one and can be found at most of the grocery/corner stores for about ¥700.


     
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    Thanks for the info. Looks like we will be visiting the establishment and tasting the local brews.
     
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    Is all of Nozawa open and well covered?
     
  34. blowfin

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  35. Sandy

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    All of Nozawa lifts are open, and it has a reasonable cover more than 1/3 up the mountain on piste, and a few brown patches low down.
    Some of the blacks off Skyline are closed though.
    But there's not enough cover in places like Yamabiko to ride off piste, in the inbound trees.
     
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    Can absolutely 100% agree with this as we are here now and skied nozawa for the first time today. Last year at this time off piste trees at the top were brilliant, this year it’s a no go. A few of us tried and after getting hung up in branches , whacked in the face and one person stuck in the gully trap we all gave up. Up top the on piste is really nice though and skied well all day .
     
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    Why the hell would you even try off piste ?????
     
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    Now why did I KNOW I would get this response ? For god sake no need to get testy. When I say try I’m talking about a few metres from the on piste runs off Yamabiko. Wasn’t us that got stuck by the way....
     
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    Haha, we are worrying about getting additional insurance for other half to ski off piste, but looks like it won't be an option/issue at all...
     
  40. Sandy

    Sandy Dark Sith Lord of the Pool Room Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Famous last words ;)
     
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    Maybe the snow gods will hear that and change it up :D
     
  42. Nozawaman

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    You got that response because I have seen season after season people going places where they shouldn't and with the depth of snow we have at present , it's dangerous . Also you didn't mention you were just off the run and it read as your group got stuck .
     
  43. Brendan Shanahan

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    Haven't been up Noz myself this season yet, but I did see some some fun was had earlier in the week on Instagram.
     
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    With such bad weather news to date, it's time to dream.

    I've been reminiscing about my first visit to Nozawa in Jan 2012, and an epic week of too much snow.
    I have reposted below , one of the archived reports on snowjapan.com... Anyone who flew off the groomer on Yamabiko and into the trees was instantly stopped and up to their necks in snow. The only way down was on the steeper runs, like Grand Prix and hopefully a sacrificial boarder had been down before you, so you knew there was a track to get out on.

    Snowjapan report below :


    Archive report: Posted at 1:07pm on Saturday 28th January 2012

    Think it is time for the snow dance to take a break or the unbelievable will soon become the unlivable!
    It has been snowing heavily again overnight in Nozawa Onsen and since the lifts closed yesterday we have had another 50cm. That must make it about 200cm in just 2 days I think, but starting to lose count. Hard to believe and even harder to shovel!

    The base up top is now over 4 meters so we are probably in record territory. I am still not sure it is a great thing for skiers and boarders or not - especially as it is happening - but for us that live here here it is a big challenge to clear the roads and prevent windows and roofs from getting snowed under.

    On the slopes there are still a few big grins coming down for those in the know on where to go to handle all this snow. A few guys were looping 39 degrees yesterday and heard stories of neck deep powder runs. But be careful as if you get stuck in the deep stuff it is a lot of hard work to dig yourself out, so best to stay on piste for now at times like this. You really do not want to get buried out there which could easily happen.

    The groomers also are flowing better today with the team from the resort getting in and doing some serious grooming through until the early hours of this morning. Lucky too as we have a fairly decent weekend crowd making the adventurous trip into town. More than I had expected, with all the news I thought a few may have been put off but it seems that everyone is interested to see how this much snow actually looks.

    Anyone coming up please take care on the roads. There have been a few accidents over the last few days. The trains and buses are running but have been experiencing some delays. Stay safe and feel free to jump on the end of a shovel and lend a hand if you see a local struggling with the snow!

    Current Official Snow Depths Numbers:

    Yamabiko:
    405cm

    Uenotaira:
    395cm

    Nagasaka:
    310cm
     
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    "..... But be careful as if you get stuck in the deep stuff it is a lot of hard work to dig yourself out, so best to stay on piste for now at times like this."
    Are they bloody crazy?? :eek::D
     
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    I got up there on Wednesday to enjoy the views while the valley still looked white. What is the deal with skinning straight up from the top of the lifts? Do the mountain staff protest if you do? I dropped down a bit out of view and went up the summer road next the abandoned lift base which adds an extra 20-30 minutes to the route.

    My snow report and photos are here - https://professionaljerry.com/snow-report-22nd-jan-2020/
     
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    Well, as is the standard in J resorts, I'm sure they don't want you in/up there. How vociferous they would be about it I'm not sure. I'll ask my friends who run places there.
     
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    So, organised trip asked plus 1 about skiing. Answer was no, now in Nozawa the answer is maybe. So I'm after recommendations for a ski with ok English. Happy to hear all thoughts.
     
  49. elSpike

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    Almost everywhere around Nozawa / Nagano has ok English.
     
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    Can you repeat that in English ?????
     
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