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Nozawa Onsen / Togari Onsen 19/20

Discussion in 'Japan' started by M_G, Sep 20, 2019.

  1. LaNeige

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    Which is a good ski school for a beginner (ish) lady in Nozawa?
     
  2. Hyst

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    Most people knew what you meant first time.:thumbs:
     
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    It cleared overhead pretty quickly this morning with no precipitation white or otherwise. The top part of the hill skied very nicely and there may even have been a couple of cents overnight.

    The groomers soften up lower down and turned to gloop for the last ... Quarter of the hill. I have to say that the very bottom of Karasawa needs a lot of love. Overall, very fun on the groomers and even some fun in the trees. Pretty happy with our first day at Nozawa.

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  4. M_G

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    Mate just posted this. :eek:

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    From tonight/tomorrow will start to cover it up. But for how long?
     
  5. Lonepeak

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    Sunday flight from Aomori to Okinawa...
     
  6. LaNeige

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    Looks like Thredbo!
     
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  7. Nozawaman

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    They are farming snow from Kandahar to keep Forest Trail going .
     
  8. LaNeige

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    A couple of pics from round the hill today. In general, the top part of the mountain is rather firm, not bullet proof, bit not something you'll leave train tracks in either. The middle this of the mountains skiied well enough softening through the day and only the very lowest parts (into the gondolas) were truely slushy.

    As always clock and zoom for detail.

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    A not quite so depressing chair pic

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  9. LaNeige

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    Oh, as for snow there was a shower just before lunch and a flurry or two this afternoon.
     
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  10. Japanesiko

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    It’s gonna be a good one this morning:) just went outside - we actually have snow wooooohooooo!!
     
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    Nozawaman A Local

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    20 cms don't get too excited .
     
  12. Japanesiko

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    Plenty of snow for me! Had an awesome time :) Amazing town - meeting some great people! Local culture has made up for the lack of snow.
     
  13. LaNeige

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    I unliked that so I could like it again ! Great to see a positive spin on things - there's still fun to be had.
     
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    Yesterday was a good day. Freshies in the morning and soft chop and packed powder for the afternoon. Lots of smiles all over the place.

    Much improved cover and a lot more of the lower mountain opened up.

    Just after lunchtime

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    Around closing time

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    Flying out tonight for a week in Shiga Kogen followed by a week at Nozawa. How are conditions looking at Nozawa now?
     
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    Sadly had to leave Sunday and now in Tokyo ... but I suspect the conditions are still good and getting better looking at the weather thread.

    Have fun!

    And I've been meaning to mention that the snow on groomers in the Yamabiko area was some of the best I have ever skied! Smooth and creamy, a bit like skiing Aust windblown but groomed. Just awesome, but crowded.
     
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  17. Brendan Shanahan

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    Good timing! Conditions are pretty good, but about to get amazing
     
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    I haven’t seen snow as good as at Nozawa last couple of days
    had a great run down Skyline today, but after that the vis was not so great
     
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  19. Saski

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    Second that. Last 2 days have been epic, best ever Nozawa ski days!
     
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  20. Saski

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    Late start this morning, heading out now for what looks like being a great second last day in Nozawa!
     

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  21. Saski

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    Mountains of snow overnight. 55cm or thereabouts. Still snowing lightly. Lots of folks up this weekend. Couldn't ask for a better last day!
     

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  22. Saski

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    Cars arrived last night
     

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  23. Lucky Pete

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    Thinking of heading to Togari tomorrow. Just looking at the piste map, looks like area serviced by the Pegasus 4 is worth a look? Anyone got some beta to share where we should target? Any areas to avoid. Will have avi gear but no skins etc. Thanks.
     
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    Hey Pete, I haven't been up the hill here since the last storm (which was huge), but the inbound/easy access trees needed more snow last week to be rideable. The only backcountry I have hit at Togari has been above the resort with skins.

    It is only a small resort, and with the rising temps tomorrow afternoon it will probably get a bit sticky in the arvo. The morning will be great though, the powder lasts long here even with the small terrain available.
     
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  25. Lucky Pete

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    Thanks Brendan, about to jump in the car. Will let you know how I go :)
     
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    Well that was a fun morning. What a nice little quintessential Japanese resort. It was snowing heavily on the way over and the expressway was a bit nerve racking at times but arrived just in time for 1st lifts. My riding buddy couldnt make it in the end so I went across solo and used the morning as a recon trip, just bombing a few laps in each area and moving onto the next as they opened, had surprisingly good luck with 1st tracks a few times. Scored some nice turns early on and although not blower dry like the last few days in Hakuba the snow quality was good although just as Brendan predicted it warmed up and I left. Reminded me of my inital trips to Japan 10 years ago being on the only gaijin I could see. Will be watching the weather and going back, particularly if there is a lot more snow as some of those tree zones look like they would be FUN.
     
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  27. M_G

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    I'm not sure how good the tree zones are. I went over and had a couple of meetings with the locals there about 4 years ago and one of my suggestions was that they might want to glade the trees a bit more. Not sure if that has happened. Hope so though.
     
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  28. Brendan Shanahan

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    Nope, I have not seen anything that appears gladed. Unfortunately, the trees in the alpine around the abandoned chairlift are a lot better spaced.
     
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    M_G M_G_ = Make skiing great again Ski Pass: Gold

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    It was set up as place catering in the main to GS training. So tree skiing has never really been thought of. I suggested that it would be good if they're hoping to get more foreign skiers. That said, the locals stay on piste and the there's still plenty of fresh stuff on the edges late in the day. However that's because there's minimal gaijin coming to poach it.
     
  30. Lucky Pete

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    Nic which areas were used for GS training? Barely looks steep/long enough in the areas I saw and rode?

    The fat biking looked popular but having to lap the top to link the two base areas is ridiculous. That or a walk along a cat track. It did remind me that I was really in Japan though :)
     
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    That's what I was told by tourism people/owners there. When I was there last there were a lot of people in race kit. I think it was over on the Pegasus side from the top. But it's been awhile since my last trip over.
     
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    I just returned from my first trip to Nozawa. On the gondola talking to an Australian uni student he said he was ripped off by a taxi driver going from a train station to ? over a 5 minute ride at a cost of 5,500 yen(!). I find that hard to believe in Japan, but...?

    Was he scammed, or is that the going rate of things there? My wife asked if it was late night (surcharge), but he said no, 11am.

    Do I have to add Japan to the list of Asian countries with some unscrupulous taxi drivers in the mix. Sad if it's true.
     
  33. M_G

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    He may have got confused. That would be 550 yen.
     
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    Taxi's are expensive in Japan, but I have never had one that is not running a meter with a rate card on the window. If he caught a taxi to Nozawa from any train station then 5,550 would probably be reasonable, especially IIyama
     
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    Arrived in Nozawa yesterday afternoon for the first time visit for 4 days.
    Have tead through the thread to try to pick up on general info
    Appreciate any advice for a newbee to Nozawa amd general conditions on the hill.
    Thanks
     
  36. Lady Penelope

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    You’re travelling in my footsteps from last year! (Shiga then Nozawa). Hipo, you must do Skyline - long run rated red/black, but fairly cruisy most of the way. Gets lumpy later in the day. Make sure you pick up lots of speed in the middle section where you can see a hill (yes, that’s right!) as the track heads UP ahead. Schneider and Challenger are some decent black runs; it’s fun approaching them with numerous warning signs telling you of the steep gradient, 39 degrees, etc. Danger, danger, Will Robinson! The cafe at the top of the Nagasaka Gondola (Yamabiko from memory) serves some very yummy pastries. Enjoy! (And enjoy the village atmosphere and many onsens).

    Edit: the Japan ski museum is also worth a look.
     
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    Based on my limited experience:
    • On pow days lift ques start early and get long for Nagasaka and Hikeage. You might want to explore the lower mountain on those days.
    • The Paradise ski area is the world's most boring run and slowest detachable quad, but has a bunch of restaurants.
    • Skyline for a nice long thigh burner.
    • The trees are a highlight when they are on, they weren't really on when I was there in Jan. There are lots of terrain traps and you could easily get into trouble without local knowledge and /or careful planning.
    • The village is awesome and there is a very cool walking tour.
    • The night market is awesome with Thai, Jamaican, a Raman place and a coupe of other outlets.
    • The hill has distinct areas, don't just get sucked into Yamabiko, make sure that you explore all the different areas.
    • Onsens
     
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    Oh yeah the cafe at the top of Nagasaka - fresh baked pastries ...
     
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  40. LaNeige

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    Remember photos or it didn't happen
     
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    Not a pastry I know, but how this most acceptable substitute came about see next post....
     
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    and decent udon upstairs
     
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    the pancakes follow up.....
    Nagasaka gondala closed, so jumped on the chair to take me over to the Hikage gondala- average queue but at the unload cat track to Hikage this awaited
    Safer to duck the rope and take a short cut down to Hikage .
    Bit of a queue there which got longer and longer as I tried to find the end 200 metere away

    Wrapped around the back of the Hikage complex. Took over 45 minutes to load
    At the top of Hikage found the top was also closed. Took a run down challenge covered in sticky gloop and far too many people who were better suited to paradise
    Call it a day :(. Need pastry:)
     
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    Rained overnight when out to dinner with a great wheat "white" beers.
    Started snowing solid about 6.30am, nice big flakes little breeze. About 2cm in an hour.
    See ya:)
     
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    Why was Nagasaka closed?
     
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    Wind as far as I could make out - same for the top lifts:(
     
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    When the Hikage Gondola is busy, it's easier to use the Utopia & Challenge chairs, although Challenge only runs on weekends.
     
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    That could be even worse than Ridge at Perisher! :eek: Hope today treats you better, @hipo
     
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    Walked put the door this morning and the shuttle stopped snd opened the door...good start. Then Nagasaka was running with only a 10 minute queue with snow building on everyones helmets. :thumbs:
    10 people squeezed into the gondala with hskis and boards - cosy.
    Up to the top and whiteout and very breezy. Surprized the chairs were running.
    Snow in good condition but crowd, vis and snow scooters are a bit distracting
    Enjoying a selection of pastries and hot choc hoping vis will improve:)
     
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    You've been skiing with @Astro66 too much.