NSW roads: dangerous driving

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  1. despot721

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    Happens every winter
     
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    Pity I didn't have dashcam footage of the HWP car doing doeys up the back of the Perisher carpark around 10am the Tuesday after QBW.

    That would have been gold.
     
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    Great .... more dash cam vigilantes
     
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    Fixed.
     
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    Hopefully they can catch all those cyclists endangering lives!
     
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    Special mention to the commodore that threw a chain off this morning near dainers.

    Dry road. No chains needed.

    They were picking up bits for thirty metres
     
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  8. despot721

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    The difference is the cops decide if it's dangerous, not people on social media.

    I'm all for it if it removes a few more idiots off the roads.
     
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    I too prefer the nanny state and all its deprivations.
     
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    Slight exaggeration perhaps?

    Firstly there will be a minuscule number of ‘vigilante’ types dobbing you in for travelling 3.5km/hr over the limit, or being lazy and not using your indicator to change lanes in light traffic.
    The reported behaviours will most likely be a very small number of extreme circumstances. The kind we would all like to see prosecuted.

    Secondly, it won’t take long for the police to work out who are wasting their time and who has just happened to catch something serious on their dashcam. I mean really... wouldn’t we all be thrilled if someone offered up some clear footage of the assault in Jindy recently and it ended in the pr**k being charged?
     
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    fify. ;)
     
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    +1 bought me a dash cam recently.
    not sure if it's to record all the ****wits and near miss moments I come home ranting about
    or if she really does hate my driving and wants to ram home her point.
     
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    Maybe highway patrol would be better off patrolling the streets of Jindabyne, rather than booking people overtaking 5kph over the speed limit.
     
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    Presenting your dash cam footage is fine but you will still need to attend court and give evidence if you make the allegation (present the footage) and there is a not guilty plea. Expenses provided may not cover your return trip to the local court so expect to be out of pocket. The footage alone is not sufficient for a prosecution so you can't just hand it over and think the Police will handle then rest wipe your hands of it.
     
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    IMHO the whole dash cam thing is just another layer of fist shaking angst that actually adds to the angry mad mess.

    They feed rights imposition over just chilling and not pushing rights and rules by proxy.

    The old "let's get even" mentality creeps into your daily drive and ups the anxiety.
     
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    Apples vs Oranges much?

    You are aware of how much Australians enjoy a good dob, yeah? Take a look at that dashcam owners Australia mob (not for too long, mind, otherwise you won't be able to scrub yourself clean unless you use industrial chemicals). I swear every other video is some small-minded, hall-monitor type who just happened to point the camera at someone cocking up, mainlining pure schadenfreude in the process. Either that, or they've been carved up by someone, but failed to disclose the fact that they'd been travelling well under the speed limit for the past half hour, only accelerating whenever an overtaking lane opens up...

    (Note: none of the above means I condone reacting with extreme aggression or driving like a tool, I just worry more about a society where mass surveillance is the norm)
     
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    That's the difference between this and dash cam owners sites.
    NSW Police have set up a dedicated task force to reduce the road toll.
    If some tool has done something genuinely dangerous, the police decide and as mentioned you have to testify.
    I don't have a problem with it.
    The link I posted was from the South Coast register, and took place on a road I have to use twice a day. The person involved has to go to court in Aug.

    Over surveillance ? Maybe but if it gets dead shit's off the road then I've got no problems with it.
    I don't find our current road toll acceptable.
     
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    How much different do you think your attitude is compared to your average Deputy Dashcam? And what if, one day, you're the deadshit?
     
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    The term "near miss" is used to describe "someone overtook me when there was a car coming" ..... even if the oncoming car is way off down the road.

    "tailgating" means "car in space I deem as owned by me"

    Way to much "dash cam will fix you" style thinking.

    Chill
     
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    The only purpose dash cams is in case of collisions for insurance purposes, the person who runs into you is nearly always going to deny fault and then you take a hit on your insurance.
    If you have dash cam footage you can send it in with a claim and as proof of no fault and you avoid a hike in your insurance.

    Aside from that a rear facing dash cam fixes tail gaters, the second they see it they back off fast.
     
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    So many people driving around worried about something other than driving .....
     
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    Dash cam footage doesn't prove who was driving. A lot of bluff going on here.
     
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    It is very different, that's why I like the fact the police make the determination, not muppets on social media.
    My 33yrs driving experience without ever being pulled over, no fines, no accidents, might indicate that i don't fall into the deadshit category (driving that is) at this time but if I was to get a tap on the shoulder from the boys and girls in blue then I'd either get my day in court, or take it on the chin.

    Nb making a mistake vs deliberately breaking the law is what constitutes a "deadshit".
     
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    Yeah, like their phones
     
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    I overtook on double yellows on alpine way on saturday. Cars in front were drivimg about 20 and there was plenty of forward vision to effect the move safely at that speed.
    If that makes me a deadshit im fine with that.
     
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    And your happy to admit that ! Good job.
     
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    Maybe the dash cam should be pointed at the driver .....
     
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    It's an interesting situation, what speed limit applies on snowy roads, is it a chain up direction area, is the person you are overtaking happy for you to do so, are you driving a chain exempt vehicle, is the person you are overtaking driving in an unsafe manner, will their low speed hinder you safe passage, can you see far enough based on the speed of the vehicle you are over taking .....

    Or

    Dash cam man applies letter law because is dash cam man ?
     
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    No need, their selfie phone already is.
     
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    Happy to admit it because it was not unsafe. Even though i broke the law. Trying to make the point that woodduck made above.
     
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    Interesting that some of you are happy to admit breaking the law and then some are even justifying it.
    My original post was to let people know that if you saw someone do something dangerous and had footage, then you can pass it to the police and they would take it further if warranted.
    Some of you have posted on here complaining of all kinds of bullshit but you want to compare chain bay activities to dangerous driving. :whistle:

    Good luck to you
     
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    ermagehd. If that was a cyclist you were overtaking the world would have ended with head on crashes.
     
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    I have nose picking, flick out the window, dashcam that I send into the EPA regularly. I have been to court 6 times, to follow through on these filthy, cavity probing deviates.

    I love my dashcam. :love::love::love:
     
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    The point being that dash cam Dan can now use his dash cam footage to report snow blowie for "driving to the conditions" because dash cam Dan is a bit pissed some one overtook him. You see the comments all the time "overtook a long line at Pipers creek" .... I am like, is there a problem?

    Overtake, do it safely and on your way.
     
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    lets not over complicate it.
    Quite simply a dashcam is an extremely valuable means of visually recording behaviour and circumstances on the roads.
    you can add any layers to suit your own arguments on this thread but it all boils down to the fact that if/when heavy shit goes down on the roads , which it will there is a reliable record.
    If you have footage to support , or assist please provide.
    IMO
     
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    Regardless of the conditions and no matter how much you justify it, they broke the law. If they get dobbed in then bad luck.
    Would you do it if there was a cop car sitting there ??
    It's like complaining when you get done by a speed camera. They have signs warning you but people still get booked !
     
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    So in summary, if you don't do anything wrong you've got nothing to worry about?
     
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    It's worked for me the last 33yrs.
     
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    The point being is dash cam Dan who is most likely way out of his comfort zone and applies his complaint in an arbitrary manner based on his emotions.

    Reported because pissed off, applied arbitrary as law breaking so must be dangerous.

    Dash cams have there place for sure but promoting vigilant behaviour by the random dash cam Dans will just lead to.more dumbed down driving and angry drivers.

    Dash cams are tunnel vision.

    The thread started with a premise of "bad driving" set by social media comments based on passing individual judgement.
     
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    Did similar on the Perisher road recently, on a clear, dry road day with cars doing 30km/hr. Was safe.
     
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    You know this is a shitty agenda when there is no mechanism to support or submit a defence with your own cam footage. Any driver who supports this or should I say doesn't resist this kind of vigilante policing needs to be off the road, frankly.
     
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    I submit 5 camera angles, to ensure there is no doubt.
     
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    "The all-seeing eye of a totalitarian regime is usually the watchful eye of the next-door neighbor. " ~ Eric Hoffer
     
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    But the problem is the popo are wanting to move defence into the court system.
     
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    If you see somethin', say somethin'.
     
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    I'll go and buy some more cameras.
     
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    pretty sure we've all done this .
    I have.
    there is those "**** this" moments .

    the issue is not about the folk who have some smarts , mountain road savvy.

    it's the **** wits who are that pigheaded to get to the carpark in the row in front or 3 places to your right ....
    at the potential cost of lives.
     
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    Which is why all Police should be tested for alcohol or drugs before every shift.
    If they have done nothing wrong they should have nothing to fear.
     
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    That's fine mate. It's the frivolous allegations that will cause defences to be rejected unless you pony up cash. Cash to avoid a false fine not worth fighting. Great. :thumbs:
     
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    I go a step further and have all my employees submit their internet history before they can start work. You can't be too vigilant.

    If they have done nothing wrong they should have nothing to fear.