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Question 'Numpty' JAL ski check-in Q!

Discussion in 'Japan' started by snowgum, Dec 1, 2019 at 12:13 AM.

  1. snowgum

    snowgum One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I'm flying JAL Rtn Mel-Narita in Feb 20' (first Japan trip) and will be taking a ski bag with at least 1 pair skis - maybe a second* if I feel confident-ish about the dimension (203cm) rule.

    So I mentioned my trip casually to my local ski store the other day and was informed I should 'check in' my ski bag as soon as possible.

    That's great, except I've navigated all around the JAL Aussie site, learnt all about the luggage rules and there seems to be no link to 'manage my luggage/flight', only amendments/cancellations to the flight per Se.

    Does anyone know pls if:
    1) I need to do this E-check-in of skis on JAL; &
    2) where on the JAL site this link might be? (Might get my glasses checked) or is it done the 'phone' method?

    In addition: a Couple more quickly cheeky Q pls:

    thinking the 203 cm volumetric rule:

    - Is it risky placing my big size Eu47 tele boots in the ski bag - if I'm worried about size limits, a safer option seems to be placing boots in my main luggage bag - and take less 'stuff'.

    - * I have a quiver killer system - so may just tape a fat second pair of skis to my main set. Is it a problem to take two skis - even if Im well below the weight limit & don't really add to volume significantly?

    Carry on?
    - does anyone carry their ski boots as their 'carry on' onto JAL - I have looked at the dimension limits - the smallest is 25cm - I figure some people must have pretty small feet/boots to attempt this, without the dreaded tape measure appearing?

    Thanks in advance folks for sharing your advice.
    SG.
     
  2. Heinz

    Heinz Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    I haven't flown JAL for a long time. I have not heard of this pre-check in thing. On some airlines you can pay for extra baggage allowance, either by weight or number of pieces. Recent years I have been flying Qantas who have a 30kg limit which for me is more then enough. Ski bag no problem at all.

    Some here have reported some experiences with JAL check in staff getting out the measuring tape, but generally no problems. And many people do seem to have large ski bags packed with all sort of gear. I only travel with a single pair of skis in a bag on their own so have never had an issue.
     
  3. person s

    person s Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    re the carry-on
    early this year I flew JAL Narita to Helsinki
    I had a small wheelie bag - not a boot bag - as carry-on with my ski boots, a laptop and some other stuff
    no-one challenged that
    later that trip I flew on Qatar Oslo-Doha-Sydney and copped a lecture at check-in about the same carry-on, but that was about the weight rather than the dimensions
    I still carried it on
    I’m going JAL from Sydney to Narita in January with the same arrangement
     
  4. Donzah

    Donzah Old n' Crusty Ski Pass: Gold

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    Heaps of threads on JAL and ski bags.
     
  5. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    To answer some of your questions (in no particular order)
    I have flown JAL several times, with ski bag. Not once, have I pre-checked in.
    Re. size dimension issue of ski bag. I have never seen the dimension rule being enforced ex-Australia, but have seen and experienced it several times ex-Japan. So, be warned.
    Re. carry on ski boots. Yes I do all the time. I use a DB 30L Hugger. It's IATA approved. It fits my boots, my lappy and whatever else needs to come on as carry on.

    Finally, do what @Donzah suggests. Search. There's plenty info in here that will answer all your questions and more.
     
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  6. Annabuzzy

    Annabuzzy Part of the Furniture

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    I’ve flown JAL at least twice. I’ve never heard of a pre check in.

    I’ve travelled with skis each trip with no drama (my bag is a 180cm burton wheelie gig). I took two pairs last trip, but usually travel with one. Aside from having my ski bag inspected on transfer from Narita to Sapporo I’ve never had a problem.

    I always take boots as carry on either in a small boot bag or nowadays in a Burton boot backpack and again never had a problem. I usually pack my iPad, passport etc in it, plus lollies/chocolate for the flight. Maybe also my puff jacket (although I don’t need it until out of Chitose in Japan so I’m inclined to just pack it in my main bag nowadays). Fits easily in overhead and while it’s tight on dimensions, it’s legit
     
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  7. Tanuki

    Tanuki A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    As above. We've flown twice on JAL from Melbourne>Narita. No issues outbound but they do measure the bag at check-in at Narita.
     
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  8. skifree

    skifree grey Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Given the fears about unaccompanied baggage I’d be amazed if anyone had pre-check of any baggage.
     
  9. dawooduck

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    a) ski shop advice can be unreliable

    Douchebag Hugger fits boots, small laptop, snacks, undies, toiletries, puffy jacket, electronics, passport etc. Keep it under 10kg.
     
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  10. teleroo

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    Does it help to wear your boots onto the plane and kick around in the liners once underway?
     
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  11. person s

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    yep
    I strongly recommend that you do that, but only if you wear your helmet too
     
  12. snowgum

    snowgum One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks for all the tips peeps.

    Im going to have a new helmet, so to avoid dings (like I had from NZ-Oz), I’ll take it as carry on.

    I have a tallish XTM boot bag, do I’ll do some experimenting this week. Oh for small feet eh?
     
  13. hatto

    hatto One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Never had any issues with JAL. Board bag with everything in it.
     
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  14. azzski

    azzski Should know better Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    It isn't a "pre-check in". What they want you to do is advise them in advance that you will have an oversize ski bag, so (in theory) they can plan for it.

    In practice, I have only ever done this on one airline (ANA) and they seemed perplexed as to why I'd bothered calling them.
     
  15. snowgum

    snowgum One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Cheers Hatto

    Thats a board though - how long /wide is your bag?

    Fwiw, if I take a roller bag it will be around 190 cm x 30 x 20 ish - at least until I compress height & width wise. Cant do much with length - skis will be ~ 185cm
     
  16. chicski

    chicski A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Qantas has a tick box on your booking for such things.
     
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  17. snowgum

    snowgum One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    JAL don't seem to have this.

    I could call. Since my first time with them / & to Japan per se.
     
  18. PMG

    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I've got a 175 cm Dakine double bag. Fits my 184 cm skis + another shorter pair. Never had issues with JAL either end.
    Going to Europe with them in January. That'll be a good test.
     
  19. Tonester

    Tonester Lift Line Nazi Ski Pass: Gold

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    You could, if it will make you feel better. But really, you will not have a problem.
    I do recall something along the lines of what @azzski mentioned, above. But that was a few years ago. As I've said, I've flown JAL a few times. No issues, just fronting up with a ski bag. Do make sure it meets the dimension requirements and is not overweight and you will be fine.
     
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    PMG One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    The weight is the biggest issue I think. Do not go over 23kg. And smile a lot.
     
  21. azzski

    azzski Should know better Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah, they will absolutely push back on an overweight bag.
     
  22. snowgum

    snowgum One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Smile I can do. Theres a lot one can to shrink a ski bag with compression straps - providing handlers don't fiddle.

    I could take a slim non - wheelie bag and really cut dimensions. Ok if I take just 1 ski.
     
  23. hatto

    hatto One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    My board bag is Dakine low roller 175 long,
     
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    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    I often travel with a pair of 187cm skis and a second pair in a douch bag. I've never been pinged on the linear dimensions thing.
     
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    EVA Air require you to advise of oversize luggage. I didn't do this last year but was fine after much measuring and weighing in Brisbane.
     
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  26. snowgum

    snowgum One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Cheers, Perhaps I overcook this issue.
    Lots of discussions past years.

    I Have been stung on weight a cpl times at Qtwn by just 500g or so - I guess thats a very critical route for weight at take off - clearing hills, etc...?
     
  27. Telemark Phat

    Telemark Phat Pass the butter Ski Pass: Gold

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    I've shuffled stuff between bags or into my carry on (rottafella freerides in your carryon raises some questions from security) for a couple of hundread grams, but never on dimensions.