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My least favourite orange turd has some pretty good flight deals (ends Jan 15) if one's game...

One-way $140-175 (MEL to CHC, ZQN) - might be able to build school holiday trip around that. Maybe a seasonnaire setting up camp in Quenstown etc

(happened to notice whilst comparing Japow flights)
 

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My least favourite orange turd has some pretty good flight deals (ends Jan 15) if one's game...

One-way $140-175 (MEL to CHC, ZQN) - might be able to build school holiday trip around that. Maybe a seasonnaire setting up camp in Quenstown etc

(happened to notice whilst comparing Japow flights)

Did about 5 separate trips ex SYD to CHC and ZQN last southern winter, mostly QF. Note the extra $57 ($32 + $35) bag fee for 20kg oversized item on JQ. This makes it similar to VA. Would prefer VA if I didn't have any Qantas status.
 

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It’s anybody’s guess of course how season 2020 is going to turnout but Niwa’s Climate Outlook April to June for the south and west of the South Island is pretty encouraging at least. Probably the most optimistic autumn outlook we’ve had for some years. Go figure! Neutral SOI and SSTs. An El Niño like setup with high pressure to the northwest of the country, low pressure to the south resulting in a persistent westerly airflow over the Alps. Average temps and average to above average moisture. Cold snaps are likely.

https://niwa.co.nz/climate/seasonal-climate-outlook/seasonal-climate-outlook-april-june-2020
 

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I thought I probably should do something about cancelling my NZ flights today, only to find out that they’d already been cancelled for me and I now have an open ticket to book at my convenience once the world goes back to normal. I suppose there’s (hopefully) next year to look forward to...
 

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I thought I probably should do something about cancelling my NZ flights today, only to find out that they’d already been cancelled for me and I now have an open ticket to book at my convenience once the world goes back to normal. I suppose there’s (hopefully) next year to look forward to...
July onwards might be possible if they get the Tasman border open...?
 

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July onwards might be possible if they get the Tasman border open...?
We had booked flights through Emirates, so even if they open the Tasman border, I’d have to rebook with an Australian or NZ airline.
 

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sadly, social distancing in a helicopter is rather more difficult.
 

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How about in a light plane, running up a glacier, for example? If one were to experience a significant birthday and wish to extend the budget? Possible, or twice the price?
 

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It'll be interesting to see what happens.

My guess is that NZski will operate Hutt (due to population from chch) and Coronet Peak. Remarks will stay closed due to construction of the new chairlift.

Cadrona will open but not Treble Cone.

DOC huts & NZAC huts will remain closed due to inability to effectively decontaminate remote huts. Bummer for glacier and high alpine skiing.

Heliskiing will be by private charter only and hence much reduced in operation.
 

ScottGN

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Wellington on a glorious autumn day (yes they do happen) looking north across the harbour towards the freshly snow capped Tararua Ranges.
 

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I was hoping would be, because pretty sure if not they will only open Cardrona and leave Treblecone closed

I was hoping that it would be operational, if only to encourage QLDers to go to NZ instead of heading south for the snow.
 

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I think so too.
I still have a couple of fingers crossed for a miracle. If domestic travel goes well here and in NZ over the next 8 - 12 weeks, and the curve stays flat could they open the bubble in August?
 

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Now that domestic air travel will be allowed in NZ under level 2, I’ve read that Air New Zealand is sending customers emails (with pre existing bookings for flights in May/June) telling them their flight is now cancelled, a refund in the form of a voucher valued at the price paid will be forwarded and they will have to re book a rescheduled new flight using the voucher.
Problem is the rescheduled new flights have to run at 65% capacity on a A320 to satisfy distancing laws, and the new fares therefore being offered are considerably more expensive than those originally purchased. Customers being told to use voucher and pay the extra to secure new seat. Scoundrels!
 

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Depends on future developments, airlines need to run at full capacity in order to stay in business.
If distancing requirements are relaxed I can't see a future with prohibitively expensive airfares.
This today from Air New Zealand
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/business...ts-to-most-domestic-airports-in-alert-level-2
These are good points that you make comrade EXPATGM. International travel for me is NOT ON until at least 2022. Just let me go BC XC skiing, bushwalking, camping ,lap swimming at the local pool and surfing and
I will try to behave myself ;-P
 

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Another Welly shot. The Hutt River looking back to the Tararua Range. They’re not even that high, 1571asl.
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looking great!

Snow over?
you are a lot closer to The poles than Oz!

FWiW: It’s been stated in a past thread that the winter sun in the lower south isle only provides light until about the end of August - it’s looking like winter is there to stay!
 

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looking great!

Snow over?
you are a lot closer to The poles than Oz!

FWiW: It’s been stated in a past thread that the winter sun in the lower south isle only provides light until about the end of August - it’s looking like winter is there to stay!
Auckland is the same latitude as the Snowy Mountains. Queenstown at 45 degrees south is the same distance south of the equator as Ottawa is north of it. The shortest day is June 21, by August the sun is coming back as the days lengthen.
 

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Auckland is the same latitude as the Snowy Mountains. Queenstown at 45 degrees south is the same distance south of the equator as Ottawa is north of it. The shortest day is June 21, by August the sun is coming back as the days lengthen.

Interesting comparison. Ottawa is pretty snowy for 4-5/months per year (was fun skating on the Rideau with friends!) Qtwn (300m asl) can be quite snowy for limited periods but usually melts within days.

Being in ‘temperate’ Vic, this family is mighty glad ‘cold’ old Sth Island is just 3 hrs by plane! Whether Kiwis are so happy is less certain! o_O
 
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Stats NZ reporting today that Aotearoa’s population hit the 5 million mark back in March, probably about 6 months earlier than expected due to the large number of NZers who headed for home as borders started to close around the world.

That’s ‘borders’ not ‘boarders’ as I was tempted to read. (;-)

Fwiw: I thought there was about half a million Kiwis in Oz? But ~ 10% Sounds a tad high.

Maybe that’s the worldwide OS figure? Good travellers you lot! ;)
 

ScottGN

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That’s ‘borders’ not ‘boarders’ as I was tempted to read. (;-)

Fwiw: I thought there was about half a million Kiwis in Oz? But ~ 10% Sounds a tad high.

Maybe that’s the worldwide OS figure? Good travellers you lot! ;)
There are about a million NZers living abroad (extra to the 5 million at home) and 600k are in Australia.
 
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There are about a million NZers living abroad (extra to the 5 million at home) and 600k are in Australia.

wow! Missed it by that much!

Many of whom are dudded by Australia’s immigration & welfare rules which are much tougher than NZ’s equivalent- I understand?
 
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