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Resource Observations 2020 Spencer’s Creek snow depth

Discussion in 'Alpine & Snow' started by Lady Penelope, Apr 30, 2020.

  1. dayzoff

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    Yep I remember that about 30cm of the storm cycle may have fallen before the last reading. I also definitely observed at least 60cm on that snow stake after that. So I was also thinking at least 180cm considering there’s been no warmth or wind since the storm finished.. anyhow, the Main Range looks well and truly loaded.
     
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  2. steeps

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    Can someone (cause I'm lazy) post a map of where Deep Creek and Three Mile locations are, in relation to old mate Spencers
     
  3. robbo mcs

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    The snow that fell was light and dry, and there was a lot of wind. Snow has built up a lot in some places, and not in others. Photos I have taken (see perisher thread), show accumulations of well over 1m in the last week in some locations, and virtually none in others. As such, the spencers measurement is subject to vagaries of wind, drifting etc, etc. However, the good news is the snow pack is now excellent, and I consider it well above average in Perisher resort.
     
  4. robbo mcs

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    3 mile dam is very close to Selwyn resort. Not sure about deep creek,, never been there
     
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    167.8cm is in at Spencers....A solid workable amount for a few weeks at least.
     
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  6. Chookfooter

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    This is the best I could find, I suspect the Deep Creek readings are taken just south of Bradley's Hut on the Tooma Rd/Swampy Plains Rd/KNP5.
     
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  7. Majikthise

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    ^ this is my recollection... somewhere in the archives here it has been confirmed by grid reference. Near round mt track IIRC
     
  8. Lady Penelope

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    ```````Less than what most of us were anticipating but factor in the wind and settlement/compaction of snow ...
     
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  9. Hermon

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    Spencer's Crk depth in 2020 is awfully similar to 2013, IMO.
     
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    This thread is just like NRL supporters base. You give them all the tech they want to solve the bad refereeing decisions and they will still fill 5hours a saturday radio with discussion on the problems with referees and the tech.

    The spencers creek measurement is the measurement. Its been recorded he same way for over 50 years. If you want to question anything, i'd question the report you read on bookface, or in resort media. Or just understand that snow accumulation is not uniform in the mountains. Or just get over snow depths and enjoy your skiing.

    The truth is, no matter what the base and how much new snow that falls here, most of the time you are skiing the top 10-20cms's. Every now and then you get a special one and you may be in the top 30cms. Anything more than that doesn't ski any differently here. So claims of 90cm or 50cm or 150cm it doesn't really matter. It was fresh snow on top and it was fun to ski.
     
  11. Ret-ro

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    I must apologise for being to short.. 168 we see , I only said 165?/ lol
     
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  12. robbo mcs

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    The depth of the base matters a lot to me, especially at this time of year. Whether it is 50, 90 or 150cm makes a diference to whether we will skiing second half of september and into october in the resorts. Also makes a big difference to the backcountry.
     
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    Deep Ck Snow sampling course is right beside the carpark for the trackhead for the now turned to cinders Round Mtn Hut. Turn off the tar and drive 100m or so to the carpark and on the east side is a flattish area where the samples are taken. As the crow flies it would be about 10 km SSW of Selwyn and at a similar altitude of 1620 m. Grid reference 238115 on the map 8525 Kosciusko. 3 Mile is 1460 m at 307280 on 8526 Yarrangobilly. Walk across the dam wall - as it is usually gated, and the site is NW of the water. Spencers at 1830 m at grid ref 205677 also on 8525. No evidence of any sampling at either site in summer
     
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  14. warrie

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    Quote "This thread is just like NRL supporters base. You give them all the tech they want to solve the bad refereeing decisions and they will still fill 5hours a saturday radio with discussion on the problems with referees and the tech."
    Bagging Bludging on the Blindside with Roy and HG?? PS mods - they are well known for their snow reports. HG and James Valentine are a hoot.
     
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    It's a rookie thing ! Snow does compact and blow around and geez it even melts . The problem is say the last recorded level is 1.2 M then we have a week of melt some prefrontal maybe so the actual depth at storm cycle might be 100 the 110cm worth of Thredbo marketing hype ,which might actually be say 80cm , then compaction and melt then hey presto 165cm reported and the 5g crowd smells conspiracy.
     
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  16. Lady Penelope

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    Well, everyone has gone very quiet over here. After a week of no snow, a bit of moisture, and increasing temperatures, I’d hazard a guess that we’re looking at around 149.5cm (and that’s me being optimistic).
     
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    149.6, and that's my final offer.
     
  18. Lady Penelope

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    :p
     
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    I think there’s been an increase LOL....they must have got it wrong. :rolleyes:

    But I’m going with 161 in any case.
     
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  20. Lady Penelope

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    Optimist!
     
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    Just to be contrarian, I’m going for 169cm. I know thats an increase. I know it hasn’t snowed since the last measurement. I know its been warm.

    However, around once a season we see that. You know, sampling and measurement error etc;)

    We’ll see. Realstically more like158cm;)
     
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    I'll go for 130 this week. Melt :(
     
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    Just in - 146.6, going down.....
     
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  26. Chookfooter

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    I'm going for 1 metre.
     
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    99cm for this week is my guess
     
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    After Sunday?

     
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    113.4cm measured today. The melt continues
     
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    Almost a carbon copy of 2013.
     
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  31. robbo mcs

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    Yep, very similar. Both seasons had a 2 week period where there were great snowfalls and good conditions. The rest of the season somewhat forgettable.
     
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    Still beats the hell out off 82, the worst year I remember.
    Especially straight after the epic 81, what a shock that was :(
     
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    Something seem wrong there, where is the early dump we had on that?
     
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    Yeah. Was skiable up high for much of may.
     
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    Amazing that it hasn't taken a huge rain event or dust - just heat
     
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    There's a bit of dust on the pack at the moment. Not as bad as other years, but enough to make it soften a bit quicker in the morning than you'd expect.
     
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    It was pretty much an Easterly base, more liable to the isothermic pack, which goes quicker regardless. Warm and wet.
     
  39. skimax

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    They didn't measure in May IIRC probably due to Covid
     
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    Yep, May had a huge dump.
    About 60cm
    No need to homogenise, as it wasn't recorded in the first place
     
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    Anyone else see they snuck in a reading on the 22nd?

    60.8 cms.......
     
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    Just looked. Interesting to compare to a similar time last year (206cm as at the 19th Sept - sob).

     
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    Last time I was there. Guthega and blue cow were still spinning lifts.
     
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    Gotta love an uptick in late September:thumbs:

     
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    Down to 30cm. Surprised it was that much, considering the snow-eating conditions currently.
     
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    Thanks @rocketboy , fascinating article. I had noticed that trees tended to form in ribbon at high altitudes, now I know why;). I didn’t realise those trees were so old either.

    Also, “krummholz” is my new favourite word. There is a run at Whistler called krummholz, but I never knew what it meant. My favourite deformed and stunted tree on Mt P definitely is a krummholz:D
     
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    I think this is a krummholz tree in that MtP line - it's slightly higher and closer to the Mt. There's a whole area there that could easily see new seedlings develop as described in this paper. Your special in-resort tree would also appear to be an example of krummholz. And a well established one. The EIS for the six pack would have a lot of this documented in great detail.

     
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    Not long now......

     
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    NSW is very lucky it got that Easterly blast of 80cm or so of concrete base builder in July.
    The August 1 photo of pretty much snowless Falls Creek Summit is one of the scariest photos ive seen.
     
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