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Discussion in 'Alpine & Snow' started by Lady Penelope, Jun 23, 2016.
Time for a separate thread, perchance? 43cm today ...
A great result.
I'll go all in for a full 100 cm next Thursday.
Same here, over 100cm next Thursday.
Useful data and graphs at Gerg's graphs and Snowy Hydro: Link. http://gergs.net/ and http://www.snowyhydro.com.au/waterenvironment/snow-depths-calculator/
Graphs not upload friendly. For this date 2016 Spencers depth of 43 cm is less than half of 102 cm in 2014.. W
Just in - 71.5cm.
Bang on average for this time of year looking at the gergometer.
Deep Creek at 1600m is 44 cm and applies to say the lower elevations of resorts such as bottom of the Roller Coaster at PB. Still waiting for a 3 Mile Dam update for Selwyn.... W
71.5 more than this time last year.
Looks like SH took a reading yesterday, 77.7cm
and this is how it plots on the gergometer
bang on average
Three Mile Dam reading back to 0cm??
three mile was surveyed earlier in the week. i guess prior to "mega blizzard"
figure that is a tad above average now
Walked from 3 Mile dam to Selwyn on Tue 14th at noon. Patches of snow 10 cm deep then bare grass. You'd think the average would be say 5 cm but then again I was not on the precise snow sampling course. Snow began in earnest from 4 pm at Anglers Reach. 10 - 12 cm on road Wed morning but a huge drift 1200 mm deep had trapped a 4WD on the Bugtown Rd at the Substation. Able to drive around it. Wind has scoured some parts of fields to just a few cm then drifts to a metre. A wonderful winter wonderland on Snowy Mtns Hwy from 20 km east of Adaminaby to Talbingo Mtn.... W
This year is tracking pretty close to 2008, IMO.
I reckon we can do better than that this year. Bring on next weekend...
This year is giving me a bit of a 2001 feel with the mix of good dumps but also the rain/trough systems
Some crew helped me get my car moving in that spot yesterday. Thanks
With current warm conditions and inevitable melt, I'd predict the next SC reading to be around 95-100cm. Any more educated guesses than mine?
85cm. But I wouldn't call my guess "educated"
They have measured 95cm, which Is more than I was expecting. Seems like a lot of snow has gone, especially with last nights rain
They've measured two days early, otherwise my guess of 85cm would have been spot on
We can only hope that the predicted snow this weekend at least gets us back to the previous 122cm depth.
I think it may be a slight net gain.
Guessing about half of the 122 was lost/compacted refrozen to 60, 68 in the BOM gauge at Perisher @ 1738m since negative temps and a further 25 to come before Thursday, with compaction/settlement of about 25, then adding for higher elevation, my guestimate would be 135cm.
I am expecting it to be trending as average on the gergometer
I think after today we are almost back to where we were, so my guesstimate is 100-110cm + whatever falls between now and when they measure
I agree with Nowada, looks like a bit of a net gain. IMO: 130cm give or take 5cm.
The last 2 days were my first BC in NSW this season so i don't have a good comparison stick but unless the various snowy hydro plots are down a notable catchment (ie creek bed, gully etc) i can only see a net gain if tonight/tomorrow comes off. 170mm of rain is far from idea although rain falls once and doesn't get moved around. The wind loading from strong winds and low temps the last 72 hours will surly counteract the damage. Windward slopes however are a completely different kettle of fish. 140.
Just my 2 cents.
I'll go 138.2cm
If they measure Thursday 122cm
Not bad @jonathanc measure now in at 143.8cm
And looking good compared to last year
which will be slightly above average on the gergometer
Wow - that's a great recovery considering the warmth and deluge of last week.
Have to say I'm pleasantly surprised that it cracked 140!
Wow - that explains the coverage across Mt P. It is better than before the rain. Just some weird missing spots. Top of Eyre ridge is not accessible as almost bare from wind loss.
But there is zero reason for them not to do a full standard groom tonight on all the main Eyre runs for the first time this season. Same with Vista and Sun Valley and GS and Hyper - there is now plenty of snow.
So they better get out there and clean up the porridge.
Said the above on the 20th in another thread. What I should have said was it looks like a two (or even three) steps back, two (or even three) steps forward scenario. What a recovery! Never been so glad to be wrong
which day of the week does the measurement get taken?
....is it Thursday?
142.1cm as 4 August. Strangely current snow depth at all three sites (including Deep Creek and Three Mile) is equal to (Spencers Ck) or ahead (Deep Creek and Three Mile) of 2012, yet I don't think anyone would be arguing this season compares to 2012 for snowpack and consistency of conditions.
Snow depth at Spencers does not a season rate. Its a nice stat though. Normally peaks late August/early September, any takers?
Although in 2014 it didn't snow much in August before spring conditions arrived later that month. Peak snow depth at SC for that year was around 163cm in late July.
Later the peak the longer the spring..
IMO it's basically peaked. maybe one more big dump - but chances are it will just tread "water".
Spring thaw proper will start in 2-3 weeks - that's if you ignore that it's thawed all winter.
There is zero base across Perisher. Stock will go through to the ground anywhere off piste that's not packed down.
There is nothing to compare it to 2012 which was a block of ice across most of Mt P.
Next couple of years are going to be enlightening as to the what the future holds.
This week was probably the last chance for Perisher to pull off a season extension marketing pitch. If it had been a 3 foot storm - they would have pulled that stunt for sure. At this stage we'll be lucky to make it to the long weekend.
Please , can't you keep that sort of talk to yourself?
... Don't worry you'll thank me after next week's upgrade - as statistically we are in the zone for one more solid winter blast ...
Below average season saved by a couple of dumps.