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Observations Thread 24-28 April event

Discussion in 'Alpine & Southern' started by Claude Cat, Apr 23, 2009.

  1. SNJ

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    Sweet as [​IMG] . I did notice a small increase on some cams from this morning but nothing massive.
     
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    The weatherzone radar is showing a nice large band of precip heading straight for the NSW resorts and with the temp still low it may produce another nice fall. All helps that's for sure
     
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    Hey The Wang - love your blog, reports, pics etc.

    In response to your annoyance with that Fairfax story, I saw it too and was mightily annoyed. But you see, that's what happens when you sack 500 staff, many of whom were sub-editors. In fact, I am told that Fairfax have outsourced a lot of their subbing off-site, which means the subs don't even talk to the journos if they have a query with a piece.

    By the way, if anyone has updates on the amount of snow in the Brindies near Canberra, I'd love to see pics or hear news.

    Um, and since this is an Obs thread, I also observe that it is warm in the sun and cold in the shade in Sydney today, which makes it really hard to dress the kids.
     
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    From: http://www.snow-forecast.com

    Just wondering what to make of this latest forecast (I know its computer generated, but they can be fairly reliable). With quite a low freezing level for at least the next week supported by a variety of sources not only including this, the 20+ centimeters of snow should last quite a lot longer than the usual fall at this time of year.

    I reckon now would be the perfect time time for perisher to pull off the marketing stunt of the century and get at least front valley open for about a week or more. This would be a piece of cake for them with the current temps allowing for some serious snow-making. As well they have some snowmaking staff already up there testing the mt p guns today as they have said on their website. The only problem would be getting the staff needed to run it in general, but one thing is for sure, if the opened it, I would definitely make the drive up there for a few days.
     
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    Also, Mt 'Bulla' in todays Herald Sun wtF!?

    On to obs, looks like im about to get hit with some serious rain, heading towards the alps, and it's cold outside, will be a good night tonight [​IMG]
     
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  6. Donza

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    Problem is the lack of medical staff , snow patrollers etc.
    Legal dramas.com
    They will blow some wales out for sure though.
    The bigger the mound the longer it lasts.
     
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    I agree. The snow will indeed stick around for the next week or two with persistently cold temperatures at or close to freezing.

    It would be a great PR coup to start the snow guns and get a bit of skiable terrain together. I'm sure some diehard skiers would show and the TV footage alone... a major feather in the cap of the resort that could put this together.
     
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    Have you opened up the firewall for the rest of the outside world to access it now??? [​IMG]
     
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    Valid points, its the kind of thing that only happens in dreams, but one thing they could do is fire up the snow guns now instead of in May and the snow will almost definitely stay around until opening in those areas and in significant quantities too.
     
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    They must have thought it looked like a big icecream. Or maybe Rupert issued a directive to come up with some more advertising dollars.
     
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  11. Donza

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    They opened Thredbo top to bottom early in 2000.
    It was dead quiet. Though for them its not too hard to run three lifts and call it 70% open.
    Perisher will only ever ever have PFV open at the start of the season.
     
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    I'm sheltering in the workshop at Cradle Mountain as it chucks down big fluffy flakes outside.

    We have had sago/snow showers on and off all day but it seems to have really set in now. Its starting to accumulate on the ground so it might be an interesting drive into Waldheim when I knock off work. There is a bush walkers weather alert out for snow down to 500m overnight. Glad I'm not on the overland track right now.....
     
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    I will bet that the resorts are asking themselves these same questions. The earlier they get it started the greater the buzz for the start of the season and the longer the revenue stream.
    Perisher are turning on their guns for a test so they may keep them running but they were due to start next week anyway. This system still looks to have a bit in it so if they got over say 60cm's and the temps stay cold it will probaly hold until the QBW.
     
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    [/quote]
    They opened Thredbo top to bottom early in 2000.
    It was dead quiet. Though for them its not too hard to run three lifts and call it 70% open.
    Perisher will only ever ever have PFV open at the start of the season.
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    With all the investment on snowmaking the plan is to open Mt P on the opening weekend I heard
     
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    Weather permitting of course. [​IMG]
     
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  16. Donza

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    They opened Thredbo top to bottom early in 2000.
    It was dead quiet. Though for them its not too hard to run three lifts and call it 70% open.
    Perisher will only ever ever have PFV open at the start of the season.
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    With all the investment on snowmaking the plan is to open Mt P on the opening weekend I heard [/quote]

    I don't reckon it will happen.Unless we get a fair bit of natural stuff. Way too much terrain to blow snow on, groom etc. No mattter how big those yellow engines are.
    All the way through happy valley etc.
    Unless you bus people up to mount P. Though the road might be closed.
    I reckon Perisher would be stoked just to have Mid station, Zalis Side saddle open.

    Some great moisture coming in from the west still. Usually we'd have a SSW wind flow by now.
    http://www.weatherzone.com.au/radar.jsp?...k=1&lye=1&lyf=1
     
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    Hmm, no rain today here. It was dry at school, on the bus it poured halfway home, and I got home and it was dry again! [​IMG]

    GFS, BoM still have some decent rain to come for the next few days. Looks like another set of showers on the way. They are over Melbourne now, but I can't tell what they are about to do. I might have to watch and see what happens, like I was forced to yesterday.

    Still looks good at Baw Baw.
     
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    Has there ever been a continous snow cover recorded from late April through to winter in Oz ?
    I'd think it would be next to impossible. We will still have long periods of stable weather and greater than 20C temps in Melbourne through May and lets face it, June is normally pretty cold and dry as well.
     
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    There has been, just searching for the year on the Snowy Hydro depth charts...
     
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    Thanks [​IMG]

    VSG has posted some pics from Canberra showing snow on the peak in Convo
     
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  21. ice_man

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    Sli1, obviously this snow won't stick around right until June, but remember that May still brings the possibility of more cold snaps like this one, given the position of the high pressure systems. If we are lucky, there will be more events to top up what's already there so it won't all melt.

    In the last few years, May rainfall has been at least 30mm, so it isn't an overly dry month. Snow at season opening is dependent on when the next one or two major frontal events are. Last year the final break didn't arrive until the start of July, but the year before it essentially arrived at the start of June.
     
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    1960 started late April with around 30cm of snow, then kicked on big time.

    I think there's been a few years where there's been a base from April onwards. Often the depths weren't recorded until the start of winter though, from what I've heard
     
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    1960 had snow at the end of April. By mid May, Spencer's Creek was up to 200cm!!!!!
     
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    Still looks good for more tonight and then it will start to dry up. Big moisture band coming in from the west and it looks to be snowing on the mountain at the moment. Hotham seems to be doing really well out of this.

    Can only hope for some follow up falls in May.
     
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    yes, one of the best ever seasons the base started in mid april, can't remember which one but I think it was back in the early 60's. I don't think its happened for a long time though, so we are long overdue!!!
     
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    Long range forecast suggests rain events later in May. I have a feeling this system will be followed by a week of dry. What do I care, the tanks are half full!

    cin, we are long overdue. Global warming - stay out of this one please! [​IMG]
     
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    Correct Curto, at least on a different port.
    When I got to PV this morning there was a 1.5m drift on the turning circle side of the perisher centre. Road was TERRIBLE but there would have been some spectacular turns had that fallen during the season.

    I did take some photos down the Nth Perisher rd today, if i get time i will post.
     
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    Sounds fantastic, but it will all melt before forming a base [​IMG]

    I would really like a follow up rain even next week, that is what we REALLY need this time of year. An ECL coming down and dumping another 50mm+ on us. Snow is not important now, so the more tropical moisture the better, but im just dreaming....

    If nothing else this gives some optimism going into the season.
     
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    Speak for yourself verm. If the weather is fine i'm going skiing this weekend.
     
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  32. Vermillion

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    But you dont ski in-bounds [​IMG]
     
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    I could get >10mm tonight in the SE subs, been belting down for a good 20-30mins now, sounds fantastic on the roof [​IMG] Heading for the alps too and intensifying.
     
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    Actually the best rain we've had (eastern 'burbs) of the whole event coming through now
     
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    Yes sounds great on the roof here too.
     
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    ive been watching it for a few hours.. i just hope it moves north a little more so eildon and buller catchments get more of it!
     
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    This lot is moving too far north to give us here any more big totals. Looks like Baw Baw will cop another dump tonight though.
     
  38. Vermillion

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    The cloud band on the sat pic still looks impressive and could give some good totals overnight especially in Vic. Radar looks good as well.
    We could see over 10cm tonight. Would like to get a few more live reports on what is happning up there.
     
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    Yeah, looks good for some more tonight, particularly Baw Baw & Buller, perhaps 5cm more for Hotham/Falls looking at the obs from today, and the bands moving through. Hotham have reported 4mm precip since 9am which is hopefully not just melt from yesterday. Looks like NSW will get a few more cm too. All good! [​IMG]
     
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    mmmm hour and a half drive to baw baw, thinking it might be worth going in the morning and building a kicker or two for some fun with friends : )
    The charts are looking nice for tonight
     
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    yes 1960, 1972 and 1982
    other possible years of cover but no readings are 1962, 1970 and 1977

    2006 almost made it with april snow falls melting before the first SMHA reading on 11 May of 24cm
     
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    Not a good sign when 1982 and 2006 were such bad snow years.
     
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    1960 was a ripper
     
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    This time last year. Almost to the day we had the second coldest day of the year. Was a little dry on precip though, but there must certainly have been some white stuff up high. And last year was good once it got going.

    Given that much, that was a single day event. This time the precip has lasted many days, and looks set to continue. Looking at EC for the next week the high pressure systems look to have finally moved off north for the winter.
     
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    damn i was close tonight, just over 12mm here. Buller/BB/LM looks like they're goin to have a good night tonight
     
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    just drove from wagga to dubbo. Some steady rain between Wagga and Wyalong. Bit far north to affect the mountains but a good indication that theres plenty of moisture around tonight. And great for riverina area which looks like a desert at the moment. Looking forward to seeing the cams tomorrow. Should be awesome above 1600m.
     
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    Those highs will be back (IMHO)... They always seem to tease us by moving north in April before coming back in May [​IMG]
     
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    We just had another 10mm of rain overnight. It's cold, too, 6 degrees. Another couple of degrees lower and there would be snow up the road!

    Looks like Baw Baw copped another dump. There must be about 20cm up there?
     
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    Bloody 2XL just reported that. Local radio station can't even get their facts right. I sent them feedback immediately [​IMG]
     
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