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Old Hotham

Discussion in 'Hotham & Dinner Plain' started by Jynx 1207, Jun 24, 2009.

  1. Mr Bean

    Mr Bean One of Us

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    Ah, yes PP, I remember the pic you had posted. My father used to develop and print his photos. I wonder if this one he took has been taken from a different angle and flipped when printing. I'll ask him when we catch up next.
     
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    Thanks for sharing these pics guys.
     
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    Bogong Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    It looks a bit like the dip in the road around Blowhard and there seems to be evidence of an unsealed road and roadside reflector posts in the foreground of the B&W photo.

    But the best way to resolve this would be to show the photos to someone who skied at Hotham in the 1940's and 50's.
    A mention of "The Gallows" might help to jog their memory.
     
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  4. Mr Bean

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    Good point about Blowhard. I'll see if that jogs my dads memory.

    Regarding Hotham and "The Gallows", I did ask him about anything called "The Gallows" but it didn't sound familiar to him.
     
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  5. Mr Bean

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    I asked my father about Baw Baw, but he only went there once with his brother. They had to use some sort of logging tramway to get up there. He said he has a picture of them at the top of Baw Baw, with his brothers dog [​IMG] (the pic is probably buried in this box, somewhere).

    I've discovered a bunch of BW negatives that appear to have skiing images on them. The scanner also does film, so its another late night for me [​IMG]
     
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  6. PolePlant

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    Look forward to seeing them.
     
  7. Cuppa

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    The first one does look like Baldy Hollow, with Stogdales in the background. The second one also looks like Little Baldy.

    Anyone coming in from Wang Ski Club would have gone past "The Gallows", so maybe it was for navigation?
     
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  8. Luken

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    I reckon Cuppa is right.

    They are both taken from much the same spot in Baldy Hollow. The first one pointing toward the back of the Hotham Summit and the other back towards Little Baldy.
     
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    We've always called the run from hotham trig down to Baldy Hollow, Gallows. The structure that looks like an old gallows is still there altho a little mangled now. Have often stood under it whilst waiting to thumb a ride back up to the village, and think it might have once functioned as a water supply of some description. http://web.me.com/mike.garrett/Skiphotes/Gallows.html
    Awesome pics by the way. Tx heaps for posting - will try and dig some of my dad's shots from the 50's and 60's. Amazing how much snow in some of the old photes, and how much lower the tree-line was.
     
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  10. Peter_CSIR

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    Hi All - First time ever posting to anywhere so bare with me.
    I stumbled across this post and I realise my comments come after the conversation has cooled a little but...
    I am a member of CSIR Ski Club. The Drift is my favourite lodge of the 3 lodges the club owns and operates (the others are at Falls and Mt Buller). Our club has an archivist and if you were interested in finding out more about The Drift's history then I could put you in touch with her. I know, for instance that the history of The Drift has been written up - I have seen a copy of it in the lodge. One last thing: I think Lindsay Salmon created The Drift ski lodge by adding a second story onto the building that was already there, and that it had previously been used as a sanitarium. You would be able to confirm (or correct) this info by looking into the history of The Drift that the CSIR Ski Club maintains.
     
  11. PolePlant

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    Welcome Pete.
    CSIR
    A mate I ski with (last name Holmes) was a long time CSIR member (and family) at Buller.
    Still skis with his CSIR jumper on.
    (red jumper with white club name made up for a few clubs back in the 80s or thereabouts.)
    I think Ive still got mine from API ski club somewhere.
     
  12. trappers

    trappers Safety not guaranteed Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    The location is almost certainly "Baldy Hollow"

    [​IMG]
    Map: http://www.mthothamfire2003.org/files/Maps%20Logos%20other/ppages/BaldyHollowB.jpg

    From: http://www.mthothamfire2003.org/files/pages/whereis_fr.htm

    FYI I am still going through Bill Spargo's old photo album and painstakingly restoring the photos. They are badly faded with a lot of dust spots / scratches which need to be manually removed (if I can do so without compramising the picture) ... am about half way through now. 'tis time consuming!
     
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  13. Mr Bean

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    Thanks Trappers. Adds an interesting dimension to the other 2 pic's of the area.
     
  14. snowchasser

    snowchasser First Runs

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    I've spent the last 30 minutes reading this all and looking at these pics. How fantastic these pics are. I love looking at old hotham pics and in particular hearing some great old hotham stories. Hotham has a great spirit. Great stuff folks for posting. Thanks.
     
  15. Slushii

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    Hi Peter, welcome to the Hotham sub-forum.

    I have been a guest at the CSIR Ski Club for the last two seasons and have thoroughly enjoyed staying at the Drift Lodge. It is such a great lodge, has so much history behind it and in a great spot. I might even have met you in the last two years whilst staying there (but only on weekends).
     
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  16. prcoy

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    I only just looked throught this post and thought I would mention that my late Father, Bob Coy, used to have lessons with Lindsay Salmon during the 50's and thought he was an excellent instructor. Dad often mentioned him when he was teaching my brother and I to ski as kids during the mid 1960's.
    I have a few old colour slides of early Hotham from dad, so here is a selection. All probably early to mid 1950's.
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    Hotham Heights
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    Getting ready for the walk out.
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    Lots of open terrain after the 39 fires.
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    Brockhoff is nearly covered by trees now.
     
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  17. cqen2l

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    Great pics prcoy!
     
  18. VSG

    VSG Crayon Master Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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  19. Bugski

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    Wow. Simply amazing!
     
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    From the walk out picture, sharp dressers, good gear.
    Thanks pr
     
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    love this thread, don't know how i didn't read it earlier.

    i can lay claims to these two, the first is off a slide of my grandpas - will try and suss out that date. the second is a large photo found in a junk shop, don't think it has a date.

     
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    that bowl is a brilliant run that's a short hike from the top of summit if you can tee up a ride from baldy hollow or have confidence in your hitch hicking skills [​IMG]
     
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  23. trappers

    trappers Safety not guaranteed Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks for reminding me to get back to Bill Spargos pictures! Havent touched them in a while and still have a lot to do! [​IMG]
     
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    Can you hurry up, I've been waiting here patiently.
     
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    Patiently waiting for snow - that's a classic [​IMG]
     
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  26. BillyKidd

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    81 was a massive year. 82 woeful. But interestingly enough even though 82 was remarkably low on snow you coudl still ski the Gully at FC until almost the end of the season. Tree cover changes and weather/climate changes seem to have reduced FC's ability to carry low snow to the extent that you can ski it most of the season. 82 was the Year of the Rockhopper.
     
  27. sfs

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    I have very fond memories of the old zoo train. Much better fun than the bus...
     
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  28. TOFF

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    I was on the zoo train when I was told "Princess Di is dead".
     
  29. Charlie

    Charlie Still the most depraved poster here Ski Pass: Gold

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    Joizus Toff, did you run over her?
     
  30. VSG

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    I was lodging at Perisher Valley as I recall, when I learned of Di's demise.

    But I have had the dubious privilege of travelling on the cart. I've noticed over the years a nostalgia for the thing.
     
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  31. TOFF

    TOFF Im kind of a big deal Ski Pass: Gold

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    No, those frenchies killed her.
     
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    Charlie Still the most depraved poster here Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yep. i'm another wrap for the zoo train, bloody H & S
     
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    in bad weather the old zoo train had it's moments, but all up it was much better fun than the bus.
    We've all got a bit spoiled for comfort these days.
     
  34. TOFF

    TOFF Im kind of a big deal Ski Pass: Gold

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    Weather was never too cold to light a smoke.

    Good times.
     
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    Haha, I was in the Day carpark and some guy parked next to me told me about it.
     
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  36. hothamite

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    How great to read about the old days at Hotham!
    The zoo train....buying lift tickets while standing outside and pushing the cash thru a tiny window at what is now the Big D...

    btw:
    I have contributed some of the photos in the early part of this thread .
    Its wonderful seeing them on the forum again [​IMG]
     
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  37. hothamite

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    Here is my original post from early on the thread---

     
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  38. Ulmerhutte

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    Loved the Zoo Train. Legend has it that Carl, the crazy yank, tried to drive one down to Omeo one night. Don't know if that's true, but would not have put it past him.
     
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    Welcome back, Hothamite! [​IMG]
     
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  40. hothamite

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    [​IMG] Thanks so much Slushii.

    Its been a while since I posted , and I have enjoyed reading some of the new threads and seeing familiar posters [​IMG]
     
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    NEW BOOK...I have self published my fathers biography 'The King of Hotham: My Father - Gillian Salmon' Among other things it is also a documentary on how the Mt Hotham Ski Resort developed from the gold mining days to present day. Available through Mt Hotham Resort Office and locally situated book shops or email tresche@bigpond.com
     

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    NEW BOOK about Mt Hotham almost a documentary from the gold mining day to modern day. 'The King of Hotham: My father' Gillian Salmon
     
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    What summer grooming? Still looks the same???
     
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    Found these recently............. but cannot work out the year taken.
     
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    No phat skis too.
     
  49. prcoy

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    Hi Fletch great photos. Interestingly I have some that Look like they feature some the same people taken by my Father Bob Coy probably 1952-1955.
    I have Included a photo of the old Holden which was my fathers and at that time as he worked for GM Holden he purchased a new car each year, so if anyone knows which model Holden it is, that would be the year +- a year.
    I would be interested if you could identify the people as by the time I got around to asking dad it was too late, he couldn't be sure who anyone was.
    The guy on the far right seems to be in both photos and perhaps the woman?
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    Hi PC

    Pretty sure its an FC Holden - 58-59

    [​IMG]