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Discussion in 'Perisher' started by SMSkier, Jan 4, 2018.
I don't think Thredbo ( or Jindy ) would classify the mtb biz as a half arsed activity.
MTB is certainly is not half arsed activity.
Just saying with the current summer infrastructure in Perisher it would be a half arsed effort
yeah Thredders was fortunate that they had the mtn & village that was perfect fit.
PV have some work to do.
I just think Vail have their eye on the ball moving forward.
i may be wrong.
Vail v's Parks v's NSW Govt v's Head lease
Overthinking it i reckon. Theres enough traffic on kosi road every weekend in summer for a half arsed kiosk to open, particularly with no toilets to clean etc. But i totally get why eyre cafe might want a break after making bank all winter.
and there lies the problem.
in my experience.
Then why can Thredbo get approval for MTB tracks from the same parks and the same NSW government? Why is there approval for a village from the same parks and the same NSW government but it is not built Logic suggests that the problem is elsewhere.
Thredbo Village is outside the park.
No it's not.
It’s not? There is some difference, @Telemark Phat remind what the difference is.
Difference to what>
It's a lease within the Park. The difference is Thredbo gets a cut from the other businesses in its lease, so it gets more of a return from increased visitation. The Park gets the cut in Perisher.
Both resorts are subject to the same planning laws and regulations. The difference for MTB is the different ecologies on the resorts. Most of Thredbo is Montane, with some sub Alpine and Alpine ecotones. Perisher and Smiggins are all Alpine or Sub Alpine, with a lot more critically endangered ecologies like Alpine Bogs. Guthega is mainly sub Alpine with a tiny bit of Montane.
Blue Cow would be the most suitable area to develop MTB since it's mostly Montane with a good amount of Sub Alpine. The difficulty with Blue Cow is the expense of running the Train for access. Unless a shuttle were set up from the Smiggs car park to the bottom of Ridge.
I’ll ask his daughter tomorrow if they have an opening timeframe. Generally it’s on Boxing Day (could be on the day) at the earliest. Your correct re Wednesday and golf.....
In respect to other posts re patronage outside of winter.... he gets quite busy. And, the rent has been paid so may as well make use of the facilities...Some days (weather dependent), the deck and tables can be full. Hikers, cyclists, sightseers, workers, locals out for a few hours all turn up there. Love it on a mild Summers day!
Let me know when you hit town. Happy to get a beer and burger up there.
Its not that far at all , as we all know.
if you do mtb it's relatively phlat access across summer rd. from Perisher.
I have to admit he does do nice burgers (and this is from a salad and “I can’t eat much for much lunch” small person).
Boxing Day it is. Same as the past few years. Confirmed this morning. Reckon I’ll go up there and watch the snow falling that day .
Thanks! I thought it had been Boxing Day previously that he re-opened but couldn’t remember for sure, and I’m trying to work out when my best weather/time window for a trek down and back (obviously inclusive of an Eyre Burger (and carrot cake) pit stop) over the Christmas/New Year period would be.
BTW to chime in on Steve getting reasonable business over summer, here are a couple of photos from the Christmas period I think a couple of years ago to show how it looks in “summer mode”. If the little cafe in the Skitube terminal isn’t open (it was open 2 summers ago but not last year) there is literally nothing other than Eyre Cafe along the whole road (pro-tip: the downstairs toilets in the Skitube terminal are usually open though).
Coffee/burger gathering at Steve’s between Xmas and NY?
I have locked in Boxing Day! Could manage more than one outing
Boxing Day might not work for me, will have to go twice
The place in the skitube building (I think it might called JJ’s) was open weekdays right across summer 2 years ago. They didn’t advertise much, and mainly were trying to capture the perisher and national parks workers coffee and lunch business. Last year they bought mountain munchies in Jindy, and decided to concentrate their efforts there, so didn’t open in perisher.
If you need to post a letter, the perisher post office in the ski tube building is open all year round. That must be a cushy job, I can’t imagine they are too busy
Angelo is now running the PO himself, after losing the news agency in town.
Cushy, or boring AF?
When the ski tube first opened, way back when, the NPWS had a counter there. In the summer months the NPWS had one of these on a huge cushion behind the counter...
I'd say many post offices would be like that these days regardless
...not in Sydney. We started getting saturday mail and parcel post deliveries from 4 weeks ago!
Canberra GPO is fairly busy too.
I rarely get to the Berridale PO desk without someone in front of me.
Nah they are busy as now days. Parcel collection!!! The one in North Canberra runs until 7pm and from 5pm onwards there's usually a queue of at least a dozen with 2-4 people running the counter....
Anyone read this?
Could be quick or not. I hope the resort can work through this with Parks and move forward quickly. Its wait and see!
I had heard rumours that the old Solarcoaster 6 pack from Whistler Blackcomb would be the replacement. Just a rumour ...
Interesting. Just read it, thanks. Would be good if they can get this head lease business sorted so a bit more progress could be made.
As Normo would say “happy to share” but I did enjoy Mt P not attracting too many newbies. Wonder how it will go when they make it easier and more attractive to get there.
Solar was 4 pack!
Information I heard is that it will be a detachable six pack, right angle loads top and bottom (like V8). Top will be high enough to beat thredbo. Bottom load will be slightly lower than current triple, to make it easier to ski across from leichardt, and from the eyre/inter cat track. However, who knows what will actually end up happening.
A detachable 6 pack will only transport marginally more people per hour when lifts are at capacity at busy times. However, when it is quiet it will mean faster laps and more vert per hour potentially
Personally I think Mt P will just become busier and congested (like the freedom chair at guthega). It would be better if they put lots of new chairs on the ridge, so all the punters head there and keep away from mt p
By the time it all gets approved and built, I might be in a retirement village
My bad! I was a bit puzzled when I heard this as I THOUGHT the Solarcoaster had been a Quad, then figured my memory was playing tricks when I heard the “rumour”.
Idon't understand the MTB market. As an observer from a distance DH bikes for use on the lifts are really sucky for covering distance or going uphill. I'd imagine a big part of the attraction of Thredbo is just hopping on the lifts and going straight back downhill.
I'm happy to be corrected, but if I'm at all right that would be a big dampener on investment. If the train ran however Blue Cow could be a great MTB location.
It will be in by season 2021
yeah I'm not up on the finer details.
but you're right from what I gather.
the DH bikes are complete different set up.
I was just thinking out loud.
shuttle from Smiggs to bottom of the ridge is one option. for starters.
perfect world tho would be have tube running .
They could get something happening in the courtyard area upstairs , cafe / bbq / bar .
if it gets some interest down the track then open up inside kitchen.
would cost a bomb tho once they start opening upstairs at blue cow I imagine.
If they build a six pack and cafe at Mt P. Thats perfect MTB territory.
Rumours that Restaurant will be further uphill than current location, so 6 pack isn't overwhelmed with punters coming out after a feed. You'll be able to go to Eyre or International directly.
Been a 'rumour" / 'desire" for a long while for restaurant / loo / maintenance / ski patrol building towards top to service all of Mt.P. just low enough to be accessible to and from all lifts. Also be an initial meeting/staging point for the slalom course.
Still need a dunny down low enough to slide to from Steve’s
Why? If the toilet was high enough to get back to Steves from the toilet. Just go before or after.
Can't you cross your legs on a T-bar
Thinking for the new restaurant at base of Mt P was to be at an elevation suitable to pop the skis on and ski back down to the new chair. The base of the proposed chair was slightly lower down than the current triple......
That’s why I like skiing with you @Astro66 you do all the high level planning
Burger and a beer with the family at Alpine Eyre today. Nice up on the hill away from the hotter weather at Jindy....about a dozen folks turned up while we had lunch. Granddaughter likes it up there!!
And a pic of the works on Leichhardt....
It almost looks like they've smoothed out the t-bar track
Nm Just arrived down here at the mountains for the Christmas holidays and I’ve got some photos that’ll be coming across the next few days as I get my act together and start my walking,
Anyways Smiggins at 6:30 this morning
When is Blue Cow opening?
Midday next week