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Discussion in 'Perisher' started by SMSkier, Jan 5, 2020.
None for me!
Call me negative but this part of the message is all wrong. It should be:
“We may not be able to sell any tickets to non pass holders if necessary to keep our staff, guests and community safe”
rather than say that they may have to introduce pass holder restrictions.
Well fellow PV fans. A great week from the start with the East Coast Snow Blow Monday system to sunny Friday at our favourite part of the mountain at G Land. Best view of any resort in Oz ! Great week. Strange week with covid etc. but we were one lucky family to lock in all of our 5 days for the 5 of us.
See this is where is disagree.
Everyone should be allowed a ski holiday. (If covid restrictions allow)
I would have no issue if there was cap on Nat Park visitors so snow play was allowed.
I buy a season pass for discounted tickets. Not for my RIGHT to ski.
Remember, this is an email Epic holders, not to general public. So statements about tickets sales are superfluous.
Yep, just covering their butts. We could loss snow and lifts. And have to limit people.
I get that but to me it’s about transparency. I bought a season pass this year because I wanted to guarantee a spot on the mountain in August given that I’d locked in expensive accommodation for a big family. We’re probably not going to ski more than the 5 days this year so the pass wasn’t about cheap tickets but access. Vail said at the outset that once sufficient terrain is open no restrictions. That was the position at 12 July - the last day for refunds. Now after that date they’re back pedalling and hedging bets. If they’d said at the outset that no one should assume restrictions on pass holders would be lifted then we could plan accordingly. My concern is the temptation is for Vail to lock in the season pass money and then try to maximise ticket sales.
Sure but now that the refund period has passed the message is “even if sufficient terrain is open we may have to limit access pass holders” they didn’t say that before 12 July. Anyway I’m just rehearsing my submission for a possible class action
As someone who uses Falls , Hotham and Perisher I can understand this. Hotham on a good day is freaking great but those good days dont happen all that often. I have always been a bit meh about Falls though and both are small if your spending an extended time there ,become a little boring I guess - this has always been my problem with Thredbare as well.
Perisher on the other hand has distinct variations in terrain , although not much of it is as outright steep as in the other places ,and it is this variation that makes the Perisher what it is. Each area of Perisher has side by side various terrain for various experience levels so families can go to an area ,say Guthega for example and keep everyone within cooee but at the same time cater for everyone.
Further to this each area can have varying weather and snow conditions on any given day , might be foggy and windblown and icy on Mt P while North P could be clear and calm and softer at the exact same time. Those who know the place know the places the days conditions will suit best.
Sure Perisher has its problems just like all Aussie ski hills but most of Perisher's problems arent on snow which is different to the other hills.
OOOOOOh likey likey muchy muchy.
I think its more about possible loss of conditions through weather events. It wasnt many years ago that we had a negative weather event mid season that just about ruined the season before a week later we had a 3 -4 day event and a follow up that delivered over a metre of snow to rectify things and event make a snow profit. September that year was fantastic but late July early August wasnt so great. Vail are just hedging against such an event I reckon and they arent business fools in the habit of committing commercial suicide by pi55ing off their bread and butter income.
Sure, obviously can’t complain if this is the reason for further restrictions.
The bottom line is Perisher has to clear the bottom line in terms of profit whether we like it or not. So they maintain the flexibility to sell off full price day tickets. I’d rather they survived this mess intact so I can ski into old age rather than the whole joint falls in a heap. And so they can continue to plan new lifts like the Mt P 6 I’ve just had the best three days at Smigs seeing my 7 yo granddaughter charging down Blanchys, refusing to stop for the toilet to the point where we had to leave as she had piddled herself. Plus her 4yo brother suddenly clicking that he could stop, slow and steer in a wedge and doing wood run on repeat. I plan to see them grow as skiers but only so long as resorts are viable
did you use the tube?
Sure as long as being viable doesn’t also mean being dishonest or deceptive.
I understand where you are coming from. I think Perisher have done the right thing so far, they didn't sell public tickets for this week and I dont recall seeing them sell tickets for next week even though they are listed as sold out through to the 24th.
As others have said a few days ago, they seem to be prioritising Epic users, so we can just hope they will still.
We would all rather the resort be there in years to come ,that would be a given I would have thought. However I would think that the Aussie arm of Vail could stand a small loss this year without much difficulty to ensure profits into the future which would only happen by retaining much of the return income stream. They may sell some high priced day tickets into the future of this season but I am certain they arent going to risk the return income for a few dollars this season. Like I said previously these guys arent going to all of a sudden commit financial suicide ,they are a decent business with a decent model which has been working for them for some years now.
But they aren't - they are stating the best they can.
No one's knows what is going to happen.
Take a deep breath Karen!
I must find this "Karen" person that everyone keeps talking about. A small dose of lead poisoning might fix what ails her.
That and hedging against the possibility of a lockdown or next level restrictions. They've shown integrity in lifting the reservation requirement a week after the dumps solved the terrain availability issue.
The increasing virus spread is something that has not been solved and something they're looking at and worried about. Despite the poor policing of crowded lines, I believe they are serious about the virus seeing they voluntarily shut down Hotham and Falls Creek unilaterally, without government directive. Same as they did in North America late in March.
Perisher over the past week was as good as it’s always been in the last week of the July holidays. I’ve been lucky enough to enjoy each year for the past five years and this year seemed even better given the circumstances.
Monday and Tuesday were hard going with all the wet, heavy and at times deep snow. Night Skiing on Tuesday was a turning point and from there the snow help up much better. Nice and dry if not a bit hard packed. It was great to see the resort open up over the week and first runs down Rollercoaster, Eyre and Interceptor on three consecutive days kept everything varied and helped push people out. Eyre when it opened was the best all week, and I was very surprised at how light and dry the snow was over there. I would have liked to have made it over to Guthega and maybe another foot of snow, but maybe next year.
All of you lucky people still down there, please post lots of photos! I’ll need them to help me get through my HSC... This week was a nice break but now back to the real world.
My hands feel cold looking back at my photos!
Ouch! Ok then got it.
That's not Karen, that's Karen's sister Cheryl.
Awesome photo. Love night skiing under the fireworks.
Just flagging our forum night skiing session for the 28th.
Let us know if you can make it here:
Second week of the July hols was when I took the kids and grand kids down. Nearly always came good for us.
Sort of miss it now they are "grown up".
Don't forget to register your interest in night skiing on the 28th
Someone said Karen and I appeared.
Headed over to Guthega and it is great. Pretty quiet, not to icy and no wind.
We arrive Monday 27th, I am with 4 others form Sudney. have to catch up
Inter laps?? 10-12k today?
For some reason the system prevented me from posting theses pics from this morning prior to first tracks.
So a cool and sunny start. Wind picked up later in the day. All good, no lift lines and decent skiing but here’s the one bit I don’t have an answer to.....
A perfect weather day, adequate cover, the car park full and cars parked way down Kosi Rd. I left about 1 pm and it was chockers.
Yet, not a lift queue anywhere. All day!! School holidays, Saturday and sunny. Generally a recipe for long lift lines and lots of folks sooking about them. However it was straight onto the lifts all day (South Perisher). That’s was a bonus!
I did note that there was about 10,000 million folks out for snow play and sightseeing. Both sides of the road packed with people not skiing or boarding. Plenty of toboggans though.
I don’t believe that challenge belongs to the resort. But someone must be able to see that the signage and notifications from Parks is doing nothing. It’s ok I guess, people want to see and enjoy the snow (I don’t blame them) unless your looking to ski/board and can’t get a parking spot in the resort car park....
Agree with you wholeheartedly. The message has been changing. I also would have preferred an upfront statement, that the Epic Pass didn't guarantee you would get any unrestricted access.
Water under the bridge. We do have unrestricted access from Monday. Let's be thankful. Let's give Perisher the benefit of the doubt, that it wasn't a planned sales tactic, but them evolving with the fluid situation, that is COVID.
Regarding Karen. Join the queue behind Jasper and myself. Karen III for you at best. Someone's got to keep them honest. Wear it as a badge of honour.
Bullocks Flat Carpark about 1/3 full. Both overnight and day. Never seen it like that at this time of year. Still a load of snow down there too after the storm.
Cheers will wear the Badge with pride.
Let’s just say in what I do for a living I see the worst of corporate behaviour and it does cause me to get a tad worked up about large companies.
Mate I should tell you who I work for...
I'm still not Jaded!!
Sage Oya, are the BC Navi’s Freebirds yours?
Tech bindings? How are they on piste? Are you using AT boots on piste? Really interested in this. Thanks mate.
Cant make it ,damn it ,things to do before I arrive up the hill on the 1/8.
Good to see the boys ripping it up @Lady Penelope instead of getting ready for school!
Haven't seen this email.. think so far have got 'most' of them..
There is always the Saturday night you arrive. We will still be there and still skiing.
No I didn’t end up using the tube. It’s the same price at $29, but I knew parking wouldn’t be a problem as I was there for first tracks and was parked by 0700.
The roads leading to Perisher are easily the safest, easiest to drive and well maintained alpine roads in Australia. Not sure I would use the tube unless I was planning on arriving late. The parking lot was choc a block when I left.
it never gets old
my recollection was that Perisher promised that there would be unrestricted access for Epic pass holders after the school hols
Well they didn't promise.
They were hoping the 12th, if conditions permitted.
Late start to the season sucked, but its behind us now!
I had a strong impression that it was promised eg email 10 June:
‘Pass holders will initially require a reservation to access the mountain, but as the resorts fully open their terrain, reservations will not be required.‘
‘will’ not ‘might’
if I had kept all of the emails I would quote one that actually gave a date
I know it’s better to be sceptical of promises but what they’re doing is what they said they would do
but the resort terrain was not fully open!