The tail looks longer than the body. As a rule that means it's not a native.
The tail looks longer than the body. As a rule that means it's not a native.
Ha ha so your saying it's full of thousands of variations of me and my family..... but yes now you say it there is a bit of truth to it.Suburban
RigBetter to ask for forgiveness than permission. Just drive your rig out there. They’ll stop.
Byron in the bush
If only.Oh fuck no.
Byron is another level
It is.If only.
So it was all your fault. Now we know who to blame.Okay a lot was said about the road this morning - so let me furnace you guys with some facts.
At around 7:20 this morning a Perisher vehicle going way too fast down the hill (towards Jindy) lost control over snow slush and went straight into the ditch in front of me. Driver blamed it on black ice, it was the slush that did it IMO it's thick and doesn't tread out easily like water.
The delays this morning were caused by a group of about five cars that had lost control and were unable to move. I confirmed this with Jindy Towing who got them all out of that situation. FIVE CARS. This was not an isolated incident, it was due to poor conditions of the road, and probably exacerbated by poor tyre conditions. There was no accident, they were just on the road in everyone's way. I've gone through the car park this season a few times to inspect: bald, bald, bald, bald, bald, bald ... rinse and repeat. Part of the problem is that the consequence for not carrying chains is a $320 fine, but there's no consequence for driving up on bald tyres. Well, no middle-consequence that is, you either get away with it or it causes a huge problem. Would be nice if either police or parks would inspect tyres and fine drivers who drove up with bald tyres.
I diverted to Guthega, but the 5-car bank caused the trip from Jindabyne to Perisher to take a whopping 1hr 45 minutes today for those who made it all the way to Perisher and were leaving Jindy around 7AM.
This is one of the reasons I started driving early, I didn't want to end up in a conga line of incompetence. Now the conga line has come to me and without chain bays and a plowed road to curb the worst of it things are even more terrifying.Who are you again ? Me thinks we may have a PSL spy in our midst.![]()
I wouldn't say " many" ,more like a few take such photos.
To be honest I wouldn't care if the carpark was full by 7.30am so long as ...
1. All the drivers were competent and experienced in the conditions
2. Used that competence and experience to drive to conditions
3. Drove vehicles set up correctly and with appropriate equipment for conditions that may be encountered.
It is my opinion and experience that the vast majority do not possess all 3 and many possess none of these attributes and vehicles.
I know I have the necessary level of competence and experience to have the knowledge of how to drive to conditions in a vehicle that is correctly set up to handle even the worst of conditions I may encounter. I can easily think of a few others that can boast the same level of expertise and equipment.
The vast majority cannot and really may be a danger to themselves or others travelling in this part of Australia at that time day.
Okay a lot was said about the road this morning - so let me furnace you guys with some facts.
At around 7:20 this morning a Perisher vehicle going way too fast down the hill (towards Jindy) lost control over snow slush and went straight into the ditch in front of me. Driver blamed it on black ice, it was the slush that did it IMO it's thick and doesn't tread out easily like water.
The delays this morning were caused by a group of about five cars that had lost control and were unable to move. I confirmed this with Jindy Towing who got them all out of that situation. FIVE CARS. This was not an isolated incident, it was due to poor conditions of the road, and probably exacerbated by poor tyre conditions. There was no accident, they were just on the road in everyone's way. I've gone through the car park this season a few times to inspect: bald, bald, bald, bald, bald, bald ... rinse and repeat. Part of the problem is that the consequence for not carrying chains is a $320 fine, but there's no consequence for driving up on bald tyres. Well, no middle-consequence that is, you either get away with it or it causes a huge problem. Would be nice if either police or parks would inspect tyres and fine drivers who drove up with bald tyres.
I diverted to Guthega, but the 5-car bank caused the trip from Jindabyne to Perisher to take a whopping 1hr 45 minutes today for those who made it all the way to Perisher and were leaving Jindy around 7AM.
Gym.?I don't go to the gym.
Can confirm the 5 cars plus an extra straggler about 30m further back because I passed the ****s just before they closed the road. None of them looked to be 4wd, none of them had chains and I can't be sure but they all looked to be on summer tyres. Pretty sure they got in that state because traffic slowed to the point where they no longer had traction, and any further application of the accelerator led to them moving sideways rather than forward.Okay a lot was said about the road this morning - so let me furnace you guys with some facts.
At around 7:20 this morning a Perisher vehicle going way too fast down the hill (towards Jindy) lost control over snow slush and went straight into the ditch in front of me. Driver blamed it on black ice, it was the slush that did it IMO it's thick and doesn't tread out easily like water.
The delays this morning were caused by a group of about five cars that had lost control and were unable to move. I confirmed this with Jindy Towing who got them all out of that situation. FIVE CARS. This was not an isolated incident, it was due to poor conditions of the road, and probably exacerbated by poor tyre conditions. There was no accident, they were just on the road in everyone's way. I've gone through the car park this season a few times to inspect: bald, bald, bald, bald, bald, bald ... rinse and repeat. Part of the problem is that the consequence for not carrying chains is a $320 fine, but there's no consequence for driving up on bald tyres. Well, no middle-consequence that is, you either get away with it or it causes a huge problem. Would be nice if either police or parks would inspect tyres and fine drivers who drove up with bald tyres.
I diverted to Guthega, but the 5-car bank caused the trip from Jindabyne to Perisher to take a whopping 1hr 45 minutes today for those who made it all the way to Perisher and were leaving Jindy around 7AM.
Pity you can't stay on the hill in NZ, what is that ?Mojo here after 14 years of loyalty is very low. Day trips from Canberra no longer a safe option if it means leaving at 4am. Accomodation totally unaffordable and camp grounds overcrowded. After a week in NZ where access is organised and affordable and you’re actually treated like you matter, Aus season passes can GAGF.
I’m done. Some backcountry will hopefully continue (if I can find parking) but resort skiing for me in Aus in future seasons is over.
then us 'stay on the hill ' types winThis thread has jumped the shark.
Many people on this thread are also posting practically pre dawn shots at Perisher.
All sounds a bit do what I say not what I do to me.
Perisher needs to fix you all by charging for parking. That will see the crowds thin out you cheap bastards.
east as !!always a 50 m gap when I came throughBetter to ask for forgiveness than permission. Just drive your rig out there. They’ll stop.
Does it match your tobogganWots wrong with beanies ?
Yeah well, Byron has changed to. The type of people Byron attracts now isn’t what it was 20 years ago.Gym.?
Mate I've had a guy rock up in Byron to pickup a 15k chair.
Looked like a young Justin hemmes.
Smelt. Bad.
Wearing kmart style ripped clothes and barefoot.
Lucky the chair fit in his gle63 amg Mercedes.
Jindabyne has a bit to get to Byron
You mean Jindy isn't that gay?Gym.?
Mate I've had a guy rock up in Byron to pickup a 15k chair.
Looked like a young Justin hemmes.
Smelt. Bad.
Wearing kmart style ripped clothes and barefoot.
Lucky the chair fit in his gle63 amg Mercedes.
Jindabyne has a bit to get to Byron
Jindabyne is middle class centralYou mean Jindy isn't that gay?
Middle ClassJindabyne is middle class central
Nah FB pages are absolutely a thing. PSL has 19,000 members.This morning was DOTS for me, awesome freshies around Eyre and Inter all morning and no one around.
As for the traffic I think it’s just people working out that people go early and a roll on effect from there. I don’t think forums like this has anything to do with it, very few people providing 90% of the content on here. Most of my friends and family are skiers but no one would know about these forums or any FB pages.
I agree, and it doesn't matter which direction they're headingIts the FOMO and the froth that makes me sad and a bit mad.
Its like everyone puts their brain in a jar when they cross the dam wall.
100% middle class.Middle Class!!!
Anyone who isn't upper has been pushed to the north shore at the least.
Can confirm the 5 cars plus an extra straggler about 30m further back because I passed the ****s just before they closed the road. None of them looked to be 4wd, none of them had chains and I can't be sure but they all looked to be on summer tyres. Pretty sure they got in that state because traffic slowed to the point where they no longer had traction, and any further application of the accelerator led to them moving sideways rather than forward.
Methinks she protesteth too much.
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Stadelman should close the road at the Shell at 5am. Turn everyone back until the snow ploughing's done and chain bays are set up.The 2WDs must have gone through Wilson's before it was manned. This is the problem with telling people to drive up ultra early - NPWS will put up the "fit chains now sings" and the 40kmph etc, but they won't have any staff to manage it until around 6:30 or whenever it is.
Jindy north shore…,100% middle class.
Hills district. Bible belt.
Shire.
But the park are the ones making the decision to close the road. And park ‘own’ the car park. And technically you aren’t allowed to park before 7am. Exceptions can be made for shift works (just exclude journalists!)They can't because #1 there are night workers, and #2 park access is not exclusively for the resort.
.................and I can't be sure but they all looked to be on summer tyres............
It's not the size of the logo in the drive, it's the size of the drive in the logo.Man your eyes must be good, those little mountain snowflake icons are way too small for me to see on a drive by
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1 as a shift worker, I can tell you that night shifts usually start between 11pm and 12am. Unless it's a 4 panel or lifestyle roster of shifts between 10.5 and 12.67 hours, in which case the shift starts between 6 and 7pm.They can't because #1 there are night workers, and #2 park access is not exclusively for the resort.
Does it match your toboggan![]()
Yeah it's not always obvious which is why I qualified it. Most of the tyres I see on capable 4wd vehicles have a certain look to them.Man your eyes must be good, those little mountain snowflake icons are way too small for me to see on a drive by![]()
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And all the bald tyres are on "new" cars, as they don't need a mechanic to tell them they need new tyres for rego for the first 5 years.Okay a lot was said about the road this morning - so let me furnace you guys with some facts.
At around 7:20 this morning a Perisher vehicle going way too fast down the hill (towards Jindy) lost control over snow slush and went straight into the ditch in front of me. Driver blamed it on black ice, it was the slush that did it IMO it's thick and doesn't tread out easily like water.
The delays this morning were caused by a group of about five cars that had lost control and were unable to move. I confirmed this with Jindy Towing who got them all out of that situation. FIVE CARS. This was not an isolated incident, it was due to poor conditions of the road, and probably exacerbated by poor tyre conditions. There was no accident, they were just on the road in everyone's way. I've gone through the car park this season a few times to inspect: bald, bald, bald, bald, bald, bald ... rinse and repeat. Part of the problem is that the consequence for not carrying chains is a $320 fine, but there's no consequence for driving up on bald tyres. Well, no middle-consequence that is, you either get away with it or it causes a huge problem. Would be nice if either police or parks would inspect tyres and fine drivers who drove up with bald tyres.
I diverted to Guthega, but the 5-car bank caused the trip from Jindabyne to Perisher to take a whopping 1hr 45 minutes today for those who made it all the way to Perisher and were leaving Jindy around 7AM.
Funny how you were always the front row, and now you are relegated out of the scrum and playing on the wingDrive up ok this morning with a steady stream of cars from Jindy. Chains required from Wilsons. Road has a “shine” to it. Locked in comfortably 4 rows back.
More importantly - mountain looks clear with some fresh snow. No significant breeze and currently minus 4.
Looks very decent
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Drive up ok this morning with a steady stream of cars from Jindy. Chains required from Wilsons. Road has a “shine” to it. Locked in comfortably 4 rows back.
More importantly - mountain looks clear with some fresh snow. No significant breeze and currently minus 4.
Looks very decent
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Funny how you were always the front row, and now you are relegated out of the scrum and playing on the wing