Perisher Master Plan

[VSG]

Some rumblings in 2017.

Environmentalists fear Perisher development will turn small village 'into a town'

Environmentalists consider a legal challenge to block a proposed 800-bed development at Perisher in Kosciuszko National Park, amid ongoing concerns it will impact threatened species and "turn a small village into a town".

www.abc.net.au

 

[D-eye]

Mt P six

six? should be 8.

 

[GlenH]

My favourite part of the old plan was for a chair from the bottom of guthega, up to pleasant valley, sort of between pleasant view and double trouble. That would be an absolute game changer, as you wouldn't need to go back to Blue Cow to return to Perisher, so would reduce a lot of congestion. Also would open up the pleasant view and double trouble areas for repeat skiing, and both are great areas

It would do, but then some areas are nice because they are harder to get to.

 

[VSG]

My favourite part of the old plan was for a chair from the bottom of guthega, up to pleasant valley, sort of between pleasant view and double trouble. That would be an absolute game changer, as you wouldn't need to go back to Blue Cow to return to Perisher, so would reduce a lot of congestion. Also would open up the pleasant view and double trouble areas for repeat skiing, and both are great areas

My favourite part of the old plan was for a chair from the bottom of guthega, up to pleasant valley, sort of between pleasant view and double trouble. That would be an absolute game changer, as you wouldn't need to go back to Blue Cow to return to Perisher, so would reduce a lot of congestion. Also would open up the pleasant view and double trouble areas for repeat skiing, and both are great areas

 

[VSG]

My favourite part of the old plan was for a chair from the bottom of guthega, up to pleasant valley, sort of between pleasant view and double trouble. That would be an absolute game changer, as you wouldn't need to go back to Blue Cow to return to Perisher, so would reduce a lot of congestion. Also would open up the pleasant view and double trouble areas for repeat skiing, and both are great areas

 

[VSG]

My favourite part of the old plan was for a chair from the bottom of guthega, up to pleasant valley, sort of between pleasant view and double trouble. That would be an absolute game changer, as you wouldn't need to go back to Blue Cow to return to Perisher, so would reduce a lot of congestion. Also would open up the pleasant view and double trouble areas for repeat skiing, and both are great areas

 

[Telemark Phat]

Yeah when they can’t even get permission for the earthwork above Leichhardt for the half pipe then they have zero chance of completing that master plan

Perisher didn't consider the hydrological implications for the alpine bogs below the earthworks.

There won't be a pipe again this year. I think Perisher have decided they have more profitable things they can do with scarce space than host a low quality half pipe.

 

[Telemark Phat]

six? should be 8.

What goes up Must come down. Towers is hectic enough as it is.

 

[D-eye]

What goes up Must come down. Towers is hectic enough as it is.

Tower's is not the only way down besides the 8 should be heavier and less affected by wind.

 

[VSG]

Sidewinder.

 

[skifree]

Perisher master plan ssp_complete.pdf

Shared with Dropbox

tinyurl.com

2002.

Notability the Nordic trail area was cut out / not included.

 

[VSG]

Notability the Nordic trail area was cut out / not included.

Only for the two dozen smelly chookfooters, langlaufers who contrib 2/10ths of bugger all to corporate Australia's coffers when visiting P. Bugger em.

 

[skifree]

Only for the two dozen smelly chookfooters, langlaufers who contrib 2/10ths of bugger all to corporate Australia's coffers when visiting P. Bugger em.

Not really the truth, xc folk spend plenty. I spent enough years behind the counter of xc. To some extent the resort ignores xc and xc returns the favour. The xc market is well bigger than resort folks think.

 

[crackson]

QED.
People in jindy talk a lot of shit.

You need to stop posting drunk.

 

[Donza]

Perisher didn't consider the hydrological implications for the alpine bogs below the earthworks.

There won't be a pipe again this year. I think Perisher have decided they have more profitable things they can do with scarce space than host a low quality half pipe.

This.
Unless its a super pipe...Its pointless.

 

[Ultra2.0]

we need this.

 

[VSG]

we need this.

Got about $100m?

 

[Heath]

Has the mt p 6 been approved or not? If so when is it meant to go in?

 

[Marty McSly]

Has the mt p 6 been approved or not? If so when is it meant to go in?

@Ret-ro

 

[cold wombat]

when is it meant to go in?

About 10 years ago I think.

 

[Chookfooter]

I thought I read here somewhere they were going to start this summer just gone but Covid.

 

[robbo mcs]

Has the mt p 6 been approved or not? If so when is it meant to go in?

DA was submitted, but I haven’t heard any news on approval? Vail put a hold on non-essential capex during covid, but things should be getting back to normal for them soon.

 

[Telemark Phat]

DA was submitted, but I haven’t heard any news on approval? Vail put a hold on non-essential capex during covid, but things should be getting back to normal for them soon.

Still being assessed!

DA 10115 Mount Perisher, Perisher Valley - Replace double and triple chairlifts with 6 seat detachable chairlift and associated works

www.majorprojects.planning.nsw.gov.au

 

[Reetro]

@Ret-ro

Yes . Probably next summer . I reckon they could run the us to Eyre snd towers and clear the road that far . It would take some pressure off the other choke points

 

[Nidecker]

Got about $100m?

Mt P cost.... I would have under estimated!

 

[Chookfooter]

I wonder what the 100 bucks is for.

 

[NightSky]

I wonder what the 100 bucks is for.

Coffee

 

[Jonathan_P]

Coffee

Large tin of blend 43

 

[cold wombat]

Large tin of blend 43

You'd get internationally roasted for trying a trick like that.

 

[Telemark Phat]

You'd get internationally roasted for trying a trick like that.

Worse, Caterers' Blended.

 

[cold wombat]

Worse, Caterers' Blended.

There's worse?

Holy shit!

 

[VSG]

Mt P cost.... I would have under estimated!

Was that for the whole hill? Not just the 6 pack. ?

 

[Nidecker]

Was that for the whole hill? Not just the 6 pack. ?

I think for the whole DA yes.

TBH on reflection, probably about right with all the work they have to do, and compliance!

 

[Chookfooter]

What years dollars were they? Probably a lot more now.

 

[VSG]

Not really the truth, xc folk spend plenty. I spent enough years behind the counter of xc. To some extent the resort ignores xc and xc returns the favour. The xc market is well bigger than resort folks think.

Note I carefully phrased my comment. I pointed to corporate Australia ( owners or resorts) vs. mum and dad small business owners who do benefit from all of us visiting the snow.

 

[VSG]

I think for the whole DA yes.

TBH on reflection, probably about right with all the work they have to do, and compliance!

Would the six pack use totally new pylons/towers? would have to I guess. and then there is removal of the old lifts. yep, a billion dollars might be the price.

 

[Nidecker]

Would the six pack use totally new pylons/towers? would have to I guess. and then there is removal of the old lifts. yep, a billion dollars might be the price.

You sound like a govt project manager ...... I really have no idea, but I guess things like helicopters to drop lift towers in don't come cheap in alpine regions, I wonder what the gondola cost?

 

[NightSky]

You sound like a govt project manager ...... I really have no idea, but I guess things like helicopters to drop lift towers in don't come cheap in alpine regions, I wonder what the gondola cost?

According to the DA $11M

 

[Chookfooter]

I'd say at today's dollars the Perisher job would be easily double that..

 

[NightSky]

That probably in line with the $20M in the Perisher DA, some differences though are the cafe and restaurant facilities top and bottom in the Perisher DA from what I understand.

 

[BlueHue]

That probably in line with the $20M in the Perisher DA, some differences though are the cafe and restaurant facilities top and bottom in the Perisher DA from what I understand.

There's no cafe/restaurant in this DA. Just the lift and some earth works/bridge crossings at the b ase. Might be a snow gun or two but don't think so from memory. It is apparently part of a larger project though to widen parts of Towers, particularly higher up with more snowmaking and like you say a new cafe/restaurant at some point.

 

[VSG]

That probably in line with the $20M in the Perisher DA, some differences though are the cafe and restaurant facilities top and bottom in the Perisher DA from what I understand.

I said $100m easy, end to end... in my post above.

 

[Camoman]

The SAP (as linked just now in Jindy thread) has a fair bit of detail for Perisher.

"Significant expansion is proposed to deliver a ‘village feel’ with the activation of streets, improved plazas and public space, and formalised pedestrian linkages to support movement within the village streets and public space alignments"

"Development will prioritise year-round activation with Perisher Village Square"

"Perisher will have a night and day economy. With bars, cafes and restaurants to support the envisaged growth. A distinct alpine feel will be created "

 

[NightSky]

The SAP (as linked just now in Jindy thread) has a fair bit of detail for Perisher.

"Significant expansion is proposed to deliver a ‘village feel’ with the activation of streets, improved plazas and public space, and formalised pedestrian linkages to support movement within the village streets and public space alignments"

"Development will prioritise year-round activation with Perisher Village Square"

"Perisher will have a night and day economy. With bars, cafes and restaurants to support the envisaged growth. A distinct alpine feel will be created "

And they cant get the basics right, like where places are.

 

[Sir Surfalot]

And they cant get the basics right, like where places are.

And it got all the way through however many drafts and reviews without hitting a single person who had ever skied in the area and flagged it as being obviously wrong…

 

[warrie]

This was advertised in the SMH on Thursday. Make a comment, fill in survey etc etc. https://www.planningportal.nsw.gov....cuments/2021/SAP_SnowyBoards_June2021_WEB.pdf

 

[VSG]

mmm. this is that Plan in a snapshot.

 

[VSG]

and Jindy gets all this...

 

[VSG]

great ideas.. but ... parking??

 

[BlueHue]

You need to read the full masterplan rather than focus on the snapshots. Too much info to come even to being captured in zoomed out maps and summaries.

Snowy SAP Masterplan