Perisher Master Plan

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and they've flipped a view from the Porcupine, of Bullock's Flat.

view from porcupine flipped.jpg


Image courtesy of John Spencer/DPIE
 

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About 2% of the affected population will bother doing that.
Which will be a disadvantage to those who comment based on so little info compared to what's out there. If they are serious about making comment and having a say on the local they should make an effort.
 
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Which will be a disadvantage to those who comment based on so little info compared to what's out there. If they are serious about making comment and having a say on the local they should make an effort.
Aspirations are good. Sadly, the average human in Australia does not care a fig.
 
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Hang on. Parking and toilets and kiosk at the bottom of ridge?
from that old Plan.

13.4.6 Facilities at the base of the Ridge Chairlift
To improve the amenity at the base of the Ridge Chairlift for recreational skiers, competition skiers and spectators, it is proposed to provide a kiosk with toilets. This may be upgraded to a restaurant if the Link Road to this point is opened to vehicle access in winter.
Being at the lowest point in the resort, it would be necessary to pump sewage back to North Perisher via the Blue Cow Road.

Electricity is already on site and water could be supplied from Blue Cow. The provision of new services to the site is likely to be integrated with the provision of snowmaking down the Roller Coaster Run in Precinct 7, although other options may be available.

To improve the safety of the milling area near the base station, it is proposed to cover a section of the creek that runs parallel to Roller Coaster. This may be designed to enable the creek to be partly exposed during summer, as has been done with some other bridges in the resort (Refs. 29, 30).

In the future, it may be desirable also to provide limited parking in this area, but this depends on decisions with respect to the Smiggin Holes ñ Guthega Link Road (see Section 14.4.3).

Because of the limited area available, any parking is unlikely to be available for general visitor use, but may be used, for example, to provide outdoor broadcast facilities associated with major competition events and for drop-off and pick up shuttle services.
 

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Upgrading the bottom of Ridge made sense. The viewpoint of the bump runs on the lower Ridge was anticipated to generate TV coverage, sponsors, international competitors and the like. A nice semi bowl arrangement, bit like the Summit bump runs into the Falls Creek bowl. Bumps were the thing, twenty years ago. :)
 
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from that old Plan.

13.4.6 Facilities at the base of the Ridge Chairlift
To improve the amenity at the base of the Ridge Chairlift for recreational skiers, competition skiers and spectators, it is proposed to provide a kiosk with toilets. This may be upgraded to a restaurant if the Link Road to this point is opened to vehicle access in winter.
Being at the lowest point in the resort, it would be necessary to pump sewage back to North Perisher via the Blue Cow Road.

Electricity is already on site and water could be supplied from Blue Cow. The provision of new services to the site is likely to be integrated with the provision of snowmaking down the Roller Coaster Run in Precinct 7, although other options may be available.

To improve the safety of the milling area near the base station, it is proposed to cover a section of the creek that runs parallel to Roller Coaster. This may be designed to enable the creek to be partly exposed during summer, as has been done with some other bridges in the resort (Refs. 29, 30).

In the future, it may be desirable also to provide limited parking in this area, but this depends on decisions with respect to the Smiggin Holes ñ Guthega Link Road (see Section 14.4.3).

Because of the limited area available, any parking is unlikely to be available for general visitor use, but may be used, for example, to provide outdoor broadcast facilities associated with major competition events and for drop-off and pick up shuttle services.
So 20 years later- that's govt bureaucracy for you. If $3 to 400 k can be spent on Kiandra Courthouse (which then burned down) then why not upgrade Link Rd to all seasons and put in a viewing/parking spot to watch the skiers in winter and flowers in summer. Might need a bit of an upgrade to Smiggs carpark to keep parkers safe from thru traffic etc
 
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So 20 years later- that's govt bureaucracy for you. If $3 to 400 k can be spent on Kiandra Courthouse (which then burned down) then why not upgrade Link Rd to all seasons and put in a viewing/parking spot to watch the skiers in winter and flowers in summer. Might need a bit of an upgrade to Smiggs carpark to keep parkers safe from thru traffic etc
It would be a minimum of $2.5 million to seal the road before anything else was added.
 
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It would be a minimum of $2.5 million to seal the road before anything else was added.
That's only 6 courthouses. LOL. FWIW a back of the envelope calculation used to be $1 million per km for a 4 lane highway - but maybe that was when stamps were 50 cents. Link is about 5 km so 2021 cost is $0.5 mill /km but it should only be two lane. Hey may as well do the rest of Guthega Rd too.
 
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And for what benefit?
So I won't have to get dirt on my nice fourby as I swan around in it with its push button everything. Oh, there's some ice, I shall just press this button and maintain full traction -not. Also see 5.27 pm post above.
 

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Vail as primarily a real estate company, have lost significant money due to covid and so this idea may well be further off than ever...may.
 
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I've got terrain printouts, somewhere, that include new proposed lift and amenity infrastructure as part of Perisher's Master Plan...circa 2001. The ones that excited me the most was a proposed t-bar from Pleasant V. back up to Interceptor and a lift off the back of Blue Cow, allowing access to the other side of Blue Cow, toward Guthega.
Hmmmm.....now where are they, I wonder?
The pygmy possums canned them :p
 

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Should have been an 8 (IMO - I suspect it would be better in wind
Interesting to see Whistler/Vail replacing a 6 with a 8 on Crystal and the red quad with a 6. I think there are only 3 -4 8's in North America
 

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Interesting to see Whistler/Vail replacing a 6 with a 8 on Crystal and the red quad with a 6. I think there are only 3 -4 8's in North America
Aren't they replacing creek side 6 gondola with an 8 gondola. Red is going to a 6? Don't think they are building an 8 chair at whistler. They are at park city though.
 

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Aren't they replacing creek side 6 gondola with an 8 gondola. Red is going to a 6? Don't think they are building an 8 chair at whistler. They are at park city though.
You are indeed correct.. Spending money there
 

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Is Perisher / Smiggins missing the boat with burgeoning MTB and summer activities in the region ? There are alot of commercial and club lodges that have done it tough in the last 2 years . im wondering if the perisher chamber of commerce and vail and governments could come together on this and help fill them up . The road to CP is really busy in summer season too surely the area could open up . Id love to enjoy a frothy with family and friends with lunch or evening dinner at the man or the smiggs pub out on the balcony on a lovely summer and autumn day and im sure im not the only one. Yes i know its all been done before and it was a dismal failure but times have most certainly changed
 
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@kiter Perisher could become a summer hub but first it requires a village. Pretty much the only major ski resort in Australia without one. Bit of a planning oversight due to lack of planning.
 

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Is Perisher / Smiggins missing the boat with burgeoning MTB and summer activities in the region ? There are alot of commercial and club lodges that have done it tough in the last 2 years . im wondering if the perisher chamber of commerce and vail and governments could come together on this and help fill them up . The road to CP is really busy in summer season too surely the area could open up . Id love to enjoy a frothy with family and friends with lunch or evening dinner at the man or the smiggs pub out on the balcony on a lovely summer and autumn day and im sure im not the only one. Yes i know its all been done before and it was a dismal failure but times have most certainly changed
This was discussed in the other thread. The consensus was that Perisher needs a central village and accomodation developed.
 

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Is Perisher / Smiggins missing the boat with burgeoning MTB and summer activities in the region ? There are alot of commercial and club lodges that have done it tough in the last 2 years . im wondering if the perisher chamber of commerce and vail and governments could come together on this and help fill them up . The road to CP is really busy in summer season too surely the area could open up . Id love to enjoy a frothy with family and friends with lunch or evening dinner at the man or the smiggs pub out on the balcony on a lovely summer and autumn day and im sure im not the only one. Yes i know its all been done before and it was a dismal failure but times have most certainly changed
Operators like making heaps for 3 months and chilling on the coast for 9.
 

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Or was it environmental concerns? Is the poo farm up to year round operations? Does the NPWS and or the Snowy Shire have restrictions on development up there in Perisher Valley? Land use restrictions?

Reality. Perisher is a shyte hole. If it wasn't for skiing, no one would go there. Even the blowflies avoid the place and go to Thredbo or Charlotte Pass instead.
 
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Unkind. Very .

you need some cheering up, grumpy bear...


Not grumpy at all. Have spent a bit of time in the area in summer over the years and the only thing appealing about Perisher in summer is when Eyre Cafe is open.
 

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Key points to remember:

1) Concept Plan for village was approved including NPWS tick of approval many years ago
2) Leasing arrangements complicated and stopped progress (by all reports)
3) Sounds like Vail can't be bothered figuring out 2
4) Just like Vail can't be bothered with mtn biking.
5) Snowies Iconic Trail and the much loved Porcupine Rocks viewing platform concept will bring a little more life to summer in Perisher (to those lodges that could be bothered opening) but still no one will bother to build a village.
 
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