Perks for Buller's CE

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  1. Hully

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    I see they have advertised MBMSRMB CEO role in today's The Age. You've got to ask why given that the whole management model is under review.
    The bullshit is dialed up to 11! The rhetoric includes "A once-in-a-lifetime opportunity....", "This is one of the most high profile, challenging yet rewarding CEO roles in Victoria" and "This is your next career move and may become your most significant".
    The reality of the level of the organisation is demonstrated by this grammatical gem "If you are the type of CEO that is interesting in taking this icon to the next stage.....".
    This whole recruitment process and its associated cost is another great example of Victorian ARMBs doing what they want without any regard to reality, fiscal responsibility for winter visitor expense or stakeholder expectation.
     
  2. Seth

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    Legends in their own lunch box.
     
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  3. Seth

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    Not sure why anyone who is of any real smarts would go for it.

    Blind Freddy can see that this could be a real shit sandwich.
     
  4. DidSurfNowSki

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    I can. A CEO who is transitioning to retirement would be attracted to it. One who has made his or her money and has always wanted to run a ski resort. Such people are out there.
     
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  5. Seth

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    People transitioning to retirement generally don't want a tough gig.

    This could continue to be cushy or it could be ordinary depending on what happens with the board and overall management structure.
     
  6. DidSurfNowSki

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    I would have said the same about my current boss. He's one of the most successful people in my field. He took a massive paycut so he could tick a box in things he wanted to do in his career. They do exist.

    The job is high stress and definitely not cushy.
     
  7. teckel

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    In the ad did they mention overseas family holidays at the taxpayers' expense?
     
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  8. Seth

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    And free accom for your friends?
     
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    A message from John Huber:

    Please be advised that on Monday the Board accepted the resignation of Paul McNamara, Development & Operations Manager with effect as of Tuesday 25 April 2017.

    The Board acknowledged and thanked Paul for his service and dedication to Mt Buller and Mt Stirling over the past 8 years, and wished Paul all the best for his future endeavours.

    I would like to take this time to personally thank Paul for all that he has done for the resorts during his service. I have had the pleasure to work very closely with Paul over his time with Resort Management and I have greatly valued his advice, insight, dedication and support over that time.

    Paul first started with the Resort Management team as the Project Manager overseeing the development of the Mt Buller Resort Master Plan. This plan, created under Paul’s guidance, has proven to be one of the resorts’ most key strategic and visionary documents and is a credit to Paul’s hard work. Over the years Paul has taken on more and more responsibility in the organisation and has provided the organisation with his valued skills and experience.

    I would like to thank Paul for his years of dedication and sincerely wish him well for the future.

    The Board and I are currently working on appropriate transition and management arrangements related to Paul’s former duties and this will be communicated in due course.

    Should you have any questions or concerns please do not hesitate to contact myself or an executive team member.

    Mt Buller Mt Stirling Resort Management
    Alpine Central
    Mt Buller VIC 3723
    03 5777 6077
    info@mtbuller.com.au
     
  10. Seth

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    Sweepy sweep sweep.
     
  11. teckel

    teckel Old And Crusty
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    Good. Why should the resort pay for McNamara's daughter to go to France
     
  12. Madski

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    Why is John Huber sending this?
     
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    From RMB press release above:
    After all, he has to organise his 2017-2018 summer o'seas trip!
     
  15. Hully

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    Because in true ARMB form they are thumbing their noses at the Government that appoints them, Victorian Ski Industry stakeholders and Victorian skiers and going on as though it is business as usual.
    Huber has shown that he does not have the integrity or judgement necessary to put transitional arrangements in place. I would suggest that his main priority is to get rid of evidence of other rorts and corruption....the shredder will be busy this few weeks in the MBMSRMB office!
    He should have been dismissed immediately and an interim administrator put in place until the revised Alpine Resort Management model is announced/implemented. This is what happens with local government when this type of corruption is identified.
     
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  16. Madski

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    What a disgrace they are.
     
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    Robber Barons of Mt Buller

    They're all tickling the till FFS
    Huber must have been a right cock for the others to shop him for doing it.
    Its the friendly ones that everyone likes who skim the most cream and keep their jobs.
    Smiling thieves.
     
  18. RTL

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    Criminal conduct. No better than thieves on the street.

    Study tours? Hope he saw and reported how far Buller lags behind world class ski resorts in France and the USA. Although terrain and snow the board can't do anything about, stuff like the rip off Buller taxi they can.
     
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  19. wolly

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    they could also do something about the gate entry price , and the 'having to pay at Mirimbah if i m parking there" price
     
  20. Dave Clark

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    Speaking personally here...

    All this talk of Buller compared to Thredbo; keep in mind they are two very different structures. Thredbo lift co has the head lease and entry is payable to Nat Parks. In NSW nat. parks users pay across the board. In Vic only alpine resort visitors pay (because crown land not nat. parks) and nat. parks are free. On top of that the RMBs are in this purgatory situation where the're not LGAs so they can't access grants and funding, but they're also not just a head lease so they have to pay for all their own LGA-style services. Add all that up and for visitors it means
    • Vic resorts season entry = $683
    • NSW resorts season entry (+ all nat. parks) = $190
    There is a structural problem with the Vic resorts. Not just governance.
     
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  21. Seth

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    I doubt you'll find anyone of sane mind disagreeing with you on that.

    It's the combination of the structural problem and snouts in the trough that blows things up exponentially.
     
  22. FlatLander

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    Very true Seth, although the core of the problem is that the ARMB members are political appointments, and not as it should be, appointed/voted stakeholders with a vested interest in the resorts and the industry succeeding.
     
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    Taxation without representation?
     
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  24. atlas shrugged

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    As a 27 year employee and seasonal full time resident, there is only one member of the RMB I recognise (a former high-level skier).
    I strongly suspect this is a common view amongst 'Buller people'
    So......what/who are the board members representative of?????
     
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    Generally, they're professional government board members. Once you're on your first government board, you move from board to board. In addition, the government likes to appoint people who have an interest in the environment and/or governance or are indigenous. An interest in skiing or snow or mountains seems to be incidental, although government board professionals who are skiers, will generally try to get on a snow related board. eg: the last Buller chair, who used the Lake Mountain board as her stepping stone to the Buller board.
     
  26. luvthabumps

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    so Atlas speaks of Andy Ev I assume and he has a long standing association with Buller, but another of the Board member I know is an apartment owner in Molony's who has helped me (as the Chairman of that Board) with advice on numerous occasions and does definitely not fit teckel's profile. I've known others as well. Not all are looking for handouts or perks.

    Perhaps let's not be too quick to judge the motives of all the RMB members.
     
  27. teckel

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    That's good to hear, LTB. The following is what the RMB have published.

    Jacqueline Jennings - Acting Chair, appointed 1 January 2016

    Jacqueline is an experienced Non-Executive Director and Industrial Marketing Executive with a wealth of knowledge in Governance, Investment, Leadership, Risk and Audit. Through her roles as a non-executive company director Jacqueline has developed corporate governance skills that complement her previous strengths as a faculty practitioner across many diverse functions. These include management, marketing, strategic development, business development, operations management, research, quality assurance and product development.

    Jacqueline's current expertise lies in corporate oversight, insight and foresight, risk management and strategic direction. In particular the previous Board Committee roles to which she has been appointed (Investment, Finance Audit and Risk) serve to further refine her strategic oversight, risk assessment and finance and investment skills.

    Jacqueline has a motivated environmental and sustainability consciousness, being very aware that our legacy is inherited by our children. She is a keen participant in outdoor activities, revelling in both the green and white seasons.



    Andrew Evans appointed 4 June 2013
    Andrew is the founder and joint Managing Director of Real Estate Development Corporation Pty Ltd, as well as the founder and joint Managing Director of Canopi Homes. Andrew has a wealth of knowledge in the property industry spanning urban renewal, residential and industrial subdivision, development of commercial, industrial and retail projects, as well as medium and high-density residential development. In 2005 Andrew was admitted as a Member of the Victorian Planning and Environmental Law Association.

    Andrew is also the founder and Director of Global Pipe Pty. Ltd., a company that supplies fiberglass pipe products to the water and mining industries throughout Australia.

    Andrew has a passion for environmental causes and is a keen skier, having been actively involved in the sport for many years. Andrew competed in mogul skiing on the World Cup Freestyle tour during the early 1990s and lived at Mt Buller for several years during this period.



    Ian Maxfield appointed 1 January 2016
    Ian has had strong involvement within the Alpine sector, having previous held employment as the Manager of Corporate Services at Mt Baw Baw Alpine Resort and as Chair of the Parliamentary Task Force investigating cattle grazing in Alpine National Parks. He has skills in Industrial relations, Human Resource Management and Governance. He is involved with many community organisations including being a Director on the Board of Quantum Support Services, Chair of the Organisational Capability Committee and a member of the Audit and Risk Committee. Ian with his wife Christine have established Gippsland Community Engagement, a consultancy business working with community organisations and groups across Gippsland.



    Michelle Croughan appointed 1 January 2016
    Michelle has worked in local and State government as a planner, with a particular focus on the management of the planning system, for over 20 years. Michelle was the Manager of Alpine Planning for the State Government for a number of years and over the last 14 years has spent considerable periods of time in ski resorts in Australia and Japan with her family. She is currently a consultant to the Municipal Association of Victoria providing advice, advocacy and capacity building in planning and building policy. Michelle is a Graduate Member of the Australian Institute of Company Directors, has an Honours Degree in Planning and Design at Melbourne University and a Diploma in Business Management at RMIT. Michelle is also a member of the Victorian Coastal Council.



    Chris Pattas appointed 1 January 2016
    Chris has significant leadership and strategic experience across Strategy, Finance, Sales, Business Development, Marketing, Board, Transformations and Operations for businesses including BI Worldwide, Club Tourism, Lumo Energy, MYOB, Sensis, NEC, Ericsson, Western Port Water, Eastern Health and the City of Boroondara.

    Chris has broad industry knowledge and business improvement experience with Software, Information Technology, Telecommunications, Communication, Media, Advertising, Health, Water, Government, SMB, Tourism, Travel and eCommerce organisations.

    He has non-executive board experience within the health, water and local government sectors. He has also presented at several key conferences on a range of technology, sales and marketing topics. His professional qualifications include an Engineering degree (with honours) and an MBA from the University of Melbourne.



    Zita Peach appointed 1 January 2016
    Zita is a Non-Executive Director and highly accomplished business executive with multi-disciplinary experience across international markets. She is a Non-Executive Director of Vision Eye Institute Limited and was Chair of the Remuneration Committee; Non-Executive Director at Starpharma Limited and Chair of the Remuneration and Nomination Committee; Non-Executive Director at 4Dx Pty Ltd and Chair of the Remuneration and Nomination Committee; Non-Executive Director at Bionic Vision Technologies Pty Ltd. She has served on the Board of the not-for-profit Bio Melbourne Network. At leading global healthcare company Fresenius Kabi, Zita was Executive Vice President for South Asia Pacific, Managing Director for Australia and New Zealand and Chair of the Boards for Singapore, Malaysia, Australia and New Zealand. Zita has extensive experience across the Asia Pacific region, and growing companies from start-up through to large multinational status. She has extensive international experience marketing and conducting major business transactions in multiple markets across the globe. Zita was Vice President of Business Development at CSL Limited and has an extensive track record in M&A deals, licensing and commercialising products and technologies on a global scale.
     
  28. Seth

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    I could find 10 people here that would do a better job.

    Some will laugh or scoff at that but I am serious. There isn't much 'resort' or even snow specific experience in those bios.
     
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    Ian Maxfield apparently didn't think it relevant to mention that he is a former Labour Politician (Member for Narracan)
     
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    It does say he was chair of a parliamentary task force, which implies that he was a pollie.
     
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    I knew one of the prominent Hotham MB members in a professional capacity and the person was known for being a smart and able operator reasonably skilled at balancing off the interests of divergent parties.... the Pro's can also be caught in between and also be constrained by the policy settings and funding decisions they are lumped with by government....
     
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  33. atlas shrugged

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    Looking past the reams of flowery self-promotion and tired old management cliches, what material record do any of these people have of improving the lives of others?
    What have they built?
    What have they grown?
    Repaired?
    What Illnesses cured?
    Whose lives are better for their contributions?

    So sadly symptomatic of the morass of mediocrity that has been allowed to thrive over recent decades.

    Any person who wants to actually do something (as opposed to merely telling others how they should do it) has to wade through a knee-deep swamp of 'procedures', 'policies' and 'due process' created by these type of people for no other reason than to justify their otherwise pointless positions.

    Send 'em off to the Western Front!!
     
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    I want to spin another one - it's easy to show the fruit of your labour as a farmer, engineer or builder. However, imagine you're a banker facilitating loans or a broker or government proxy spinning a deal. If you get it right business activity results which provides livelihoods, and sees goods & services produced which increase wellbeing & prosperity - just because its intangible and less self-evident doesn't mean it's less real.

    Imagine Australian society without the gains in trade predicated on on our legal system which entrenches property rights - people invest and stuff happens in part because of all the swamp of legal stuff. I ain't saying it's pretty or that we could cut out so much of the crap!

    I'm also not saying the managerial classes do it for anyone but themselves, but we'd be shortsighted to suggest that executives and government are just unproductive parasites who can't add value.

    I'm with you on our need to cut BS, red tape and all that crap, but effective and efficient operatives can still turn things around - our system of government is clumsy, and the parastatals loaded with cronies doesn't help, and the ongoing disintegration of an effective investigative media isn't helping either.

    On a dark night I sometimes think the only way to cut a swathe through this malaise of BS which strangles us in Oz is to extend, rather than curb privatisation, so that good old-fashioned self-interest, and the profit motive can ensure change, even if so much of the common good is lost by doing this. The truth is, this would probably be lost in any case... I'm all for a compulsory Western Front prerequisite for board members though, although the Russian steppes might be better... "Mud, mud, glorious mud, nothing quite like it..."
     
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    Fair 'nuff. All valid points and well articulated.
    Reckon we'd enjoy a beer and a chat !!!
     
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    Absolutely - see you on the hill!! - First round's on me! I'm with you on the tenor of your post - let's keep the bastards honest!!
     
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    These self proclaimed leaders of industry who have been sitting Board members since Huber arrived at Buller in 2010 ( that's every single one of them) are all a disgrace.
    Not a single Board member has bothered to take the time to visit the operations hub of the RMB in all that time to oversee or get a handle on what accounts for 70-80% of the RMBs responsibilities.
    They hang their hats on the (master plan) another joke they played on us all.
    What Government or private enterprise would spend the $50 million on this little beauty.
    The government should step in now and call it what it is- a dead duck !
    Bullers been run by the blind leading the blind since Huber arrived the spin from him has stopped thank Christ! The rest of the inept bunch of Lemmings that call themselves Board members need to follow as well ! Dumb Dumber and Dumber still !
     
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    So, what's your agenda?

    Not one of those Board members was there in 2010. In fact the longest standing is Andy Ev, appointed in 2013 and the rest appointed in 2016.

    The system in place is not the best one, but there's some pretty low name calling going on in here and questioning of people's skill sets. I'd hazard not one of the keyboard warriors in here actually knows or has bothered to get to know what the skills of the Board members really are. Knowing people who are both current and previous Board members, I personally take offence that you question their integrity without actually knowing anything about them.

    Until the system is changed, a Board of Directors is required by the Minister. I have no doubt that not every Board member that has been appointed over the years has been eminently qualified but the people that I know who have been on there are very successful at what they do and all have an undying passion for Mt Buller and want to see the place grow and flourish within the guidelines they have to work with.
     
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    Who are you?
     
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    someone with an axe to grind clearly..........
     
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    Don't hate the players hate the game. The biggest problem with skiing in Victoria is the Alpine Resorts Act. Everything stems from that.
     
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    exactly
     
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    Sorry Carveman I disagree entirely.

    Well almost entirely... I agree that there may be some issues with the act, but the problems with the Vic ski industry is:
    - you have lift cos that have the entire ski area lease, with no requirement to develop it, or improve it
    - the lift cos have no responsibility or care (probably nor do they want it) in providing and/or assisting in the delivering of municipal services to their customers, the total responsibility of this is a requirement of the RMB's
    - therefore the public see that as a money grab for no reason by the RMB's, when in actual fact they are providing services that all guests need and require, which has to be paid for by someone. The current mandated model is that RMB are legislated to provide these services on a shared user based model (could this be done better - yes)
    - the lift cos are always quick to criticize the RMB's although never the other way around
    - everyone is happy to pay $110 per day to ski on a half open ski area on wet slop in the rain, with further lifts then on viability hold, on standby-will run on demand!!!
    - Lift cos make huge profits yet do not re-invest in the industry, or ski field development
    - yet you are not happy to pay for ski patrol (God bless them), cross country trails, cross country grooming, garbage collection, clear village roads and car parks, guest services, etc etc. Fact is these services have to be provided and paid for

    Now could the model be better - yes
    - Boards with local representation, not political appointments, with all members having equal say
    - ski field leases to be cancelled and re-written to include ski field development mandatory requirements eg new lifts, visitor amenities
    - the above is no different to the new leases for lodges where there are mandatory site development requirements
    - lift cos pay fair share in visitor services - approx 80% of visitors are there to ski/board, so in real terms the village is there to support that business - charge them accordingly
    - the list could go on although you get where I am coming from

    sorry have to get back to work
     
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    I still think the major issues stem from the Act. That would be a clear starting point.

    Also I think BSL does plenty. And I'm no apologist for them as my track record here shows. But they have a consistent thistory of improvement & investment, snowmaking gets improved every year, lifts get replaced when necessary, and BB1 is slated for replacement this summer, with Grimus next on the list.

    As for Falls & Hotham I'm not as well versed, but knowing people who have been spat out the other end of the Merlin machine I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope for development.
     
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    Have to agree, not often a year goes without some tangible improvement like the slushy machine this year.

    Would like to see that second dam get dug though !
     
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    Yes that is seriously important.
     
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    I'm in a unique position whereby I do business with several resorts and ski patrols throughout both NSW and Vic. I ski in both states at most resorts throughout the year as a guest and I run my ski business which has me interacting with resort management at some level.

    They are all run differently but I can say I was really surprised at how different NSW & Vic resorts are actually run. FWIW my view is that one single resort management team is easier to deal with in both a guest and a business perspective. ie the NSW model. The more people or managers involved in decision making as part of the product delivery the more margin for error or inactivity (red tape etc).

    I've got to say all the people I've met in both states all seem passionate about their businesses and all appear to have their respective resort and customers best interests at heart.

    I suppose it's a case of the mechanism under which some people have to work to achieve a result or to affect change.
     
  48. skinavy

    skinavy Dedicated Member

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    Even in NSW the model isn't the same between each resort. Thredbo is a head lease arrangement for Kosiuzko Thredbo, with everyone else being a tenet of KT, who provide all services(garbage, sewer, snowclearing, etc). Perisher is separate leases for each enity with NPWS acting as landlord and providing services. I suspect Charlotte Pass is the same as Perisher while Selwyn would be the sole entity there.
     
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    Slightly different subject. When are they going to publish the annual report for 15/16?

    If they don't hurry they might as well post 2 years worth at the same time.
     
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    Yes I would say Buller SL is the shining light in these murky waters. They are very active in ski field dev and certainly not afraid to install new infrastructure, replace ageing lifts etc. The other two well....picture tells a thousand words and those pics have not changed for many years.

    Also BSL really do have all operators on board with a common goal.

    But....again I hear that the RMB's are to blame, and therefore the act.

    My view is every model will have pros and cons, under the current model if the right people are in place then good things will happen. Bit simplistic I know