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Question Plum binding install query

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by climberman, Jan 10, 2021.

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  1. climberman

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    Hi folks,

    I have a set of older Plum Guides (second hand) I am looking to mount.

    Can anyone advise if the toepiece requires a mounting plate of some sort? When not on a ski, two elements of the toepiece extend below the base, one in ski mode (the base of the tow lever below the toe springs) and one in open mode (the opening lever itself).

    Supplied screw length is the same for all 16 screws which tells me that the levers rest/push on the ski topsheet but I wanted to check with the brains trust.

    Pics attached above (am yet to consistently manage to get them to go below text!)

    I have had a quick look around the web but not found anything to assist yet.

    TIA
     
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    WS Jindy used to (might still do) stock & fit Plum, maybe give em a call.
     
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    Have a look on Wildsnow...... used to have mounting templates to download.
     
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    Check your screw length. Put a screw in one hole and measure how far below the toepiece it extends. If its more than 4.9mm you need a baseplate.

    edit: the screw should extend 9mm for an adult binding.
     
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  8. climberman

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    Ta.
    It looks to be an 8.9mm screw length below the toe base, suggesting a 4mm+ mount plate required.
    I’ll email Plum.
    Cheers all.

     
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  9. climberman

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    Ta @Chaeron - in the pic to the left, is there a plate under the toe?
     
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    No - not in any of the pics I’ve seen...
     
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    Sorry, seniors moment. Binding screw holes are drilled 9mm deep. It looks like that binding doesn't use a base plate. Try putting them on a piece of wood and see how the mechanism goes.
     
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    Some early bindings come with 2 sets of screw lengths - one set for the toe, one for the heels....
     
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    Good idea will do.
     
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    This one has 16 screws all same length, from a previous install.
     
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    Roger.
     
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    3.6 x 9mm or 4.1 x 9 mm?
     
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    Follow any marks on the ski. The rule of thumb otherwise is 4.1mm for skis with a metal laminate and 3.6mm for skis without. If you're not sure if the ski has metal or not drill 3.6 and if you see metal shavings redrill at 4.1
     
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    Cheers. Tried the timber with the 4.1 and seems fine :)
    The sticks note 4.1mm x 9.5 mm so will do as they say!



    Does anyone have a favourite ‘follow these instructions’ page for binding install?

    Will be having a go through the week :)
     
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  19. Chaeron

    Chaeron Ski-Hike-Blade-Bike-Kayak Ski Pass: Gold

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    Not Plum, but Dynafit. Same sane almost.

    https://www.wildsnow.com/16524/do-it-yourself-mount-dynafit-tech-ski-bindings/

    Add beer, measure twice, drill once...
     
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    Measure twice, drill once, beer.
    Simples!
     
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