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Poo Tubes: How to Make/Use?

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by SimonInAustralia, Jul 10, 2007.

  1. SimonInAustralia

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    I am wondering about poo tubes.

    What size tubes do you use, diameter and length, and anything special you need such as o-rings on the end caps?

    How do people use them, poo in a waxed paper bag and then put it in the tube?

    Where do you empty them after use?

    Any other tips?
     
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  3. TeleJim

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    The ones I have used are about 2 1/2 - 3" diameter and say a foot long. Depends on how long you are gone for and where you might be able to dump the baggies. I don't know whether you really need O rings but I guess they wouldn't hurt and then you don't have to worry about that hot and spicy chilli to much ;).
    Guys I toured with one year had these little plastic bags that seemed purpose made but they wouldn't tell me where they were from. Waxed paper sounds better environmentally and would be as good as anything - just harder to get in place than plastic.
    I found it was best to but the bag in the tube with the ends of the bag over the edge of the tube, do your business in the tube then fold the bag back into the tube. Give it a twist then (holding the twist) pack things down. It tends to pack pretty well with a bit of force. As for emptying - a toilet is best but you could always bury the poo in a proper hole, once you get of the snow and away from any water courses. The toilets at The Kosciuszko Chalet have got a bit of mine over the years but I didn't like using them. Far better to give it to the Ski Tube dunnies. As for getting rid of the bag's burning the paper would be the best - plastic is a bugger to dispose of in a considerate manner.

    As for tips - don't sit on the tube, suspend you're a*s above it, and don't drop the sucker on a hill - they dont stop real easy and it's hard to chase one down hill with your strides around you're knees.
     
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    I'd be tempted if I were you to buy a Sealine drybag or similar and use it. If you have to buy the full goods for a PVC tube it's about the same $$, but a drybag weights 20% of the PVC tube, is easier to carry on the way in and should be as safe to carry, close, use and clean.
     
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    I go with a drybag - saves both weight and volume - empty on the trip out, full on the return when there is less (undigested)food to pack.
     
  6. mr

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    Hmm, i'm lo-tech. I just use bio-deg plastic bags with handles for the drop and a family pack gatorade or peaches plastic container (750ml?)with a wide lid for the store. When empty the toilet paper and rubbish bag live in there until displaced.

    Plastic bag with handles means that accuracy with ski boots, 10 layers of clothes, squatting in a whiteout with a 100km/hr breeze blowing the wrong way is a little less important.
     
  7. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Keep it simple.

    We use a 2 litre nalgene for short trips and a 4 litre nalgene for longer trips.

    Poo straight into the nalgene and put the paper in. At home empty into toilet. We do have a dedicated old spoon for the scrape out.
     
  8. gusc

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    Which beggars the question: if you were the 'deep green' type, what sort of environmentally friendly disinfectant would you use for a non-dedicated spoon?
     
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    I made mine from a piece of 18 inch 90mm drainpipe offcut. Any plumber will probably have a sh!tload (no pun intended) of offcuts for you. Then a couple of dollars for a screw cap at one end and glue the cap on the other.

    A sprinkle of lime in the bottom helps to stop odours. Brown paper bags can be pushed in, folded over the top and secured with an elastic band. When the job is done, fold the paper bag up well and push it to the bottom.

    Carry a large garbage bag in the car, and stop at McDonalds on the Hume on the way home, empty your pootube into the garbage bag and place in their bins. Then when that is done, jump back in the car, keep going and stop for dinner at the fish and chippery in town centre, Euroa. [​IMG]
     
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    Poppies likes this.
  11. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    It is illegal to put poo in the bins. Never mind the poor folks who have to sort it later.
     
  12. TeleJim

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    Exactly - feel for the poor 16 olds working at Macca's for 5c per decade when you do this - You're not sending a message to Ronald, you're just endangering the health of some kid on minimum wage.
     
  13. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Well I was meaning the people at the sort and recycle station. An awful lot of waste also goes throught the same sort as the re-cycle bins do to reduce the volume the waste handler has to put to land fill which is becoming expense enough to justify sorting almost all waste.

    And before anyone asks about disposable nappies you are supposed to scrape them out into a toilet before putting them into a bin.
     
  14. Toddo

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    the health hazards of disposing/cleaning these tubes are probably worse than leaving the nuggets in the nature! my poo tube is a strong sphincter, i haven't done any overnighters yet though.
     
  15. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    the health hazards of disposing/cleaning these tubes are probably worse than leaving the nuggets in the nature

    Complete cobblers.
     
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  16. SimonInAustralia

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    Just don't wake up thirsty in the middle of the night and grab the wrong Nalgene bottle!!!
     
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    OK, just got a tube for free from a guy here at work, screw on top and bottom with o-rings, should do the job (though I suppose it will be me doing the job).

    Any reason why the base should be glued on? It should be alright with a screw on lid at both ends, shouldn't it?
     
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    I here you Toddo. I've only overnighter'd where pits are available. And in Vic we're lucky that a lot of places have pits. I've told the +1 about the NSW poo tube thing and she won't contemplate an overnighter in NSW.

    What about the new loo, is that accessible in Winter?

    I know its no good for the Crags type trip but for southern MR....

    Another good thing about this poo tube thread. Previous one's just dealt with making them, this one addresses the actual use and disposal. I might be a bit soft but I don't like what I'm reading
     
  19. TeleJim

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    Also make sure your pee bottle and your drink bottle feel very different in the dark of the night [​IMG]
     
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  20. SimonInAustralia

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    Sounds like you're speaking from experience?
     
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  21. TeleJim

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    More of an urban myth I think but it makes sence. Seriously the best place for a pee bottle when snow camping is in your bag, between your legs using it's heat to warm your femoral artery. Make sure the bottle has a good seal.
     
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    We normally leave the poo tube outside buried in snow within reach of the tent. Keeping things cold seems to help keep the smell level within reason.

    Because a nalgene can be air tight (an advantage over pipe made jobbies) there is very little breakdown occurring so the contents stay stable for a long time.
     
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    heheheh I see the annual poo-tube thread makes yet another appearance.
     
  24. climberman

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    I'm a bit alarmed by the size of these tubes...2 1/2 inches, or the 90mm one.

    Some of the brown babies I've delivered have a diameter far in excess of these, especially after a heavy night drinking. How are you supposed to poke those puppies into the tube?
     
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    With the above-mentioned spoon...?

    More seriously, I think that binning the business afterwards would be a no-no, although someone on a previous thread pointed out that they could dispose of poop that way at a nursing home they'd worked at. i.e., might vary, depending on local laws, but doesn't sound like the best for landfill regardless.

    Plastic bags down the dunny [​IMG] (Don't even the biodegradables depend on sunlight?)
     
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    [​IMG] Dude, if a turd came out of my ar$e with a diameter larger than 9cm you would hear me screaming all the way over there in Perth. I don't even want to know how that is possible for you. [​IMG]
     
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    That's some scarey poo you got there, I can't imagine a 90mm+ diameter log coming out of my ass, that'd have to hurt!

    I think the idea is to poo into the tube, or into a bag/paper placed in the neck of the tube. I don't think you want to be crapping on the ground and trying to pick it up and put it in the tube!

    (other terms for pooing?...Cloning yourself...dropping the kids off at the pool...???)
     
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    Relax all, the 90mm x 18 inch tube was for 3 people for a 8 days....
     
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    90mm x 18inch?!?!?!
    Make up your bluddy mind!
    [​IMG]
     
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    Practice at home before you go.
     
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    i just don't like the idea of carrying around a tube full of crap for a few days.
     
  33. SimonInAustralia

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    I assume that if you're out there for a few days you might be based out of a single campsite, and you would leave it at the campsite, only carrying it in to the campsite at the start, and out at the end.
     
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    Freeze your turds first, easier to stash in your whatever that way..overnight's good
     
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    ....or you can freeze them twice!
     
  36. The Plowking

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    I used a home made poop tube touring Europe in my campervan for several years. Disposal was usually the nearest bin if no nearby toilets. Definately a bag (plastic) inside though. A campervan is no place for cleaning a poo tube!
     
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    surfie guy with the large orifice, you might like to consider this method, along with whatever container you choose.
     
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    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    It also helps to have a regular time slot that occurs when you can be not wearing 10 layers of clothing and be out of the wind.
     
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    Yeh dont make em too small but as I gave birth to the first gorilla in captivity on the recent BC trip to fill up the poo tube & leave snow blowey to cart his out on his back in a plazo.
    Shudder to think of the probs if the stack I had on the way home(that broke the strap off my poo tube) had been in a bag.
    Another plus for the PVC is that you dont have to look at it swaying on your mates back on the hike out (no offence SB).
     
  40. skifree

    skifree A disciple of the blessed avi giraffe Moderator Ski Pass: Gold

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    Aha, we also pack our nalgene in a dry bag as insurance.
     
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    bring a shovel and bury in the ground.....well that would have been possible with last yrs low snow lvl....
     
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    Old thread I know, but we are currently looking at going to the NSW Main Range this year hence we are looking into the whole poo tube thing.

    I think I read somewhere someone mentioned about using cat litter to help control the smell and dries out the crap as well? Any advice on that?

    I have never seen (or be able to find) 2 litre Nalgene bottles. Does anyone know where to get them in Melbourne?
     
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    Paddy Pallin have them, but seriously, use ziplock bags and attach to the outside of ur pack....triple bag em!!!!
     
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    And don't fall on em!
     
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    Buckwheat had a great idea of using a plastic container with screw on lid. The kind you buy at the supermarket for about $5-10. Use it once and throw it in the bin without ever having the face the contents again.

    I have had great success using plastic shopping bags - and thats why i'm well and truely not impressed by the plan to ban them! Just shite into one bag for the whole trip, then five bag it, tie it to pack and its fine. Chuck the whole lot in the bin at the end of the trip. Everything stays nice and cold while you are on your trip so odour isn't an issue.

    John Deere must have good aim to get it in a zip lock. Hands would need to be to close to the danger zone for my liking. Much better to have the handles on the plastic shopping bag. You can hold it in place nicely whilst doing the job and the bag keeps your bum warm if there is a bit of a breeze blowing. The true art of the bag crap is getting rid of number one before getting number 2 into the bag, or vice versa!
     
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    That is gold SB [​IMG]

    And you only need to hold one handle, just hook the other over your.....
     
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    Disposable nappie bags, and nappie wipes for cleanliness afterwards. Store in a hard tube for crash protection. Last thing you want is a plastic bag failing at the seams due to an impact.
     
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    Personally, I hook BOTH handles...... [​IMG]
     
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    For someone new to BC I must say this thread does make one wonder about the value of multi-day trips. I am not precious but the concept of backing one out into freezing winds aiming for a ziplock bag with the wedding tackle slowly getting frostbite then having to try and explain that to the missus does make me think that I might do the daytrip thing a while longer. The term "blue balls" takes on a whole new meaning too.