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Question Powerbanks & Solar charging

Discussion in 'Backcountry' started by DJM, Jun 2, 2020.

  1. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    So, I've been out of the loop in regards to keeping gadgets charged up on longer trips. What are people using in terms of keeping cameras and phones charged?

    Our phones are becoming backup camera equipment and long exposures at night are cooking batteries fairly quickly in the cold. Specifically canon G series Canon compacts and iPhones for up to two weeks BC.
     
  2. GS

    GS Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Goal zero make some small portable solar panels with USB output. Not sure if there are USB chargers for GSeries Canon batteries, there are USB chargers for Canon DSLR batteries. The panel would work with phone and anything else with direct USB charging...assuming You have enough sunshine.

    If you know how many full charges you will need, it might still be less weight and more convenient to simply carry x number of charged batteries.
     
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  3. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks GS. I'll look into Goal Zero.
    In the past, I've carried 3 batteries for my old G series cameras and at one point had the car charge kit rigged to a cheap solar panel. Dated option though.

    I'll do some homework on the Powerbanks too. Cheers
     
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  5. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Thanks CM.
    I’ll have a good read.
     
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    sn0wbunny29 One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I have the Anker which went with me to Nepal. I used it to charge my power bank during the day and then charged my phone etc.from it when we'd finished trekking.
     
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    Aldi apparently have Xaomi 20,000 MAH power banks on sale Saturday, for $60.
     
  8. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Cheers mate. Could be worth a look!
     
  9. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    These come up repeatedly in searches. I like them.
     
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    jonathanc One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    Just check the weight - I have a 20k MAH power bank and it weighs nearly as much as my entire lightweight spring sleeping system.
     
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    Oh yeah, they aren't light!
     
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    jonathanc One of Us Ski Pass: Silver

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    I save weight on essentials and camp in exposed spots so I've got sufficient battery and reception to continue posting dribble on this site.
     
  13. Lord Back Country

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    I've got an Anker solar cell recharger and their battery bank.

    I have taken both at times and they have worked great for me. Particularly on warm sunny days.

    However, the battery did not like being accidently left in my pack on night 1 in -5C.

    And the solar charger did not like the ensuing 4 day blizzard.

    God I missed electricity on those 4 days...

    Heavy suckers too.
     
  14. pegasusSki

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    In terms of power banks, Cygnett seemed to be good for awhile, but Officeworks carry Comsol - are the latter rated?

    EDIT - I accidentally had a 'w' rather than a 'b' for bank. ;-)
     
  15. CarveMan

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    Shitposting is life.

    10k man should be ample if you've got a solar panel.
     
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  16. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    I was just hanging out at the mall and had a play with one of the 20k units....She’s heavy. Almost half a keg. I did have a 10k job years ago so had an idea what I’d be in for.

    I think solar maybe just a gamble the more I think about it. Carrying a bank and solar would be equal to just carrying a larger capacity unit potentially. I think I can deal with the weight.
     
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    I find that solar only really works for me in a base camp setting. Too much pfaff on a real trip, trying to get it to charge effectively or not get damaged or lost in scrub.

    Normally carry a 10k battery bank for a week or so.
     
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  18. GS

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    Can you charge the G series camera via USB?
     
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    GS Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    On a long trip I made the mistake of not alternating the two batteries each day between solar charger and camera. Instead i left the one battery in camera until discharged then connected to solar....Murphy's Law came in and i had no sun for days and the second battery discharged long before the first recharged. :doh:
     
  20. DJM

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    Kinda what I was thinking. The 10’s are reasonable in terms of weight too.
     
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    I found a 3rd party USB charger for my Lumix G7, super light too, very handy.
     
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  22. DJM

    DJM One of Us Ski Pass: Gold

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    Good question. I’ll check with the brother to find out what his latest one requires. I’m thinking some wizardry will be required to get from A to B. Car charger modified etc.
     
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  23. GS

    GS Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    Once everything can be charged via USB it will make life much easier. Only need a Power bank, and maybe solar for longer trips where sunshine is likely
     
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    Bought an Anker 21000 maH a few weeks ago. 350g, $79. Good for five days full phone charge.
     
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    When everything goes to USB-C, charging life will be much simplified.

    I’m on the lookout for a power bank with roughly 10k mah, USB-C PD and Qi wireless charging.
     
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  27. GS

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    Pocketable fusion power cell is the future!
     
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  28. Ziggy

    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Boil billy, charge phone or integrated battery.
    Click
     
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    It’d be annoying on a TFB day.
     
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    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    Yeah, and you might have to drink a lot of tea.
     
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  31. GS

    GS Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    and love playing with twigs for many hours
     
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    GS Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    @DJM
    Browsing around today I found this 20W panel. At 350gms and $79 seems a reasonable option;
    Panel

    Jaycar have a smaller 10W panel but no mention of weight;
    Panel
     
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    I have a cygnet I think. 10k, Qi. But it’s 2x USB out and mini usb in. Is very handy for travel. USB C would be nice but seems to be taking longer than I expected for adoption. I only have a few USB C and my canon won’t charge from it
     
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    Ziggy A Local Ski Pass: Gold

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    All these ratings are nominal. Actual wattage output is around 70% - and that in full square-on sun.
     
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    Yeah but it would be annoying being out in the scrub on those days anyway.
     
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    GS Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    The module I used for remote charging AA NiMh batteries actually quoted accurate specs. As you say, most panels seem to quote no load power rather than rated operating pwr.

    Just for giggles I added a low dropout 5v regulator to the AA charging module and it now charges phone at about 6% per hr.

     
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    i havent ever got more than a year or 2 out of charger bricks, or the solar hybrids, starts feeling like a lot of waste
     
  38. kylep

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    Not to call you a cheapskate, but has the quality been decent? There's heaps of cheap stuff out there, and I'm sure they'll struggle - I've ditched some poor versions. But a decent one should last
     
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    Was this for a static project, or do you use for camping?
     
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    Age old problem that everything you buy these days requires care an maintenance. Nothing tech goes too well unused on the shelf.
     
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    GS Part of the Furniture Ski Pass: Gold

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    I used the panel while travelling/bushwalking etc to charge the 4 x AA batteries a previous camera used.

    The modification to charge USB is just a project, but at approx 80gms I might house it more robustly for actual use.
     
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  43. kylep

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    Could be worth charging a small powerbank with it that you can secure together well, then use that to charge phone etc?
     
  44. GS

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    Yep, that would be the plan although charging phone direct is more efficient
     
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    Cold might have something to do with it as well.
     
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    One Anker brick has lasted me several years of occasional spells of intensive use. Another is shaping up the same.
     
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    I've got a 10kmah Cygnett with USB-C that's going great, if it had Qi it would be perfect.
     
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    well i just went across road to radio parts (good spot for an office eh) and got a solar / usb uniden for $50...8000mh. lets see how it goes
     
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