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Discussion in 'Alpine & Southern' started by TomGroggon, May 11, 2019.
How did we do it.
I rang my brother who lived up there.
Skied in the rain
And weather as well.
You could dial the Telecom (pre Telstra) info line to get an update. Or walk past Moloneys ski shop in Elizabeth St (Melb) and read the chalkboard with the report
We always stopped at Cooma for perishable supplies, a run in the park when we were young kids and get the latest snow report from the Tourist Information Centre.
Going to Buller as a kid my Dad would stick his hand out the window near Mansfield and say "hmm, I predict good snow". Science!
Going to Aspen in early 1990's, I used to call the hotel and pathetically ask "so what's the snow like?"
Now I expect every ski area to provide detailed daily snow history, 10+ live cams, and weather conditions at that minute
The newspapers published snow reports, on Thursday or Friday IIRC. There were networks of people who had just been down. I was once accosted at traffic lights with skis on the roof and interrogated. TV weather reports had snow reports, as did radio. The standard weather report for Adelaide was a good indicator - 15 degrees and wet in Adelaide meant a dump in the next day or 2 (still does).
My recollection in Oz is showing up at the Skitube and checking the whiteboard which would have the overnight totals - because there often were overnight totals...
Teletext... news papers,and when we were lucky got to call the snow report phone number.. Or just call the lodge.
He may have been busy supervising 14 - 17 year old me.
This site exists because people would go out of their way to walk past the ski shop I was running just to read the faxed resort report we taped to the window each morning.
Don't forget Rob Gel and his snow report on the Channel 9 News in Melbourne on a Thursday night.
Rob was my Mum's mate and sometime boyfriend from Camberwell High / Melb Uni days in the 60's so we always watched him with interest.
There was a printed bulletin, once a week IIRC. At least here in Victoria
It was at ski shops, servos on the way to the snow.
Hehehe - Jo Pearson lived next door to us for a while and I babysat her kids.
Yeah when I was a bit older I used to tease Mum that he picked the blonde ...
I think it was him that introduced Mum to skiing.
4 Day weather map, same way we chased surf
Pigeon post of course!
You have to laugh at the young ones who can't imagine life pre the digital age.
this was it.
the good old synoptic chart.
and Alan Wilkie or Mike Bailey for some added spoken words in black n white teev..
Rob Gell's Mum was my High School PE teacher
Residential resort family since the 1950's.
Radio 2XL Cooma Snowy Mountains. A report on n the wall of the CBR ski shop, or ringing the resort direct. We found a person at Perisher we could ring.
The current ABC weather flack in Sydney is an obvious skier, and slips hints into his reports now and then. Earlier weatherboys have been the same.
@janesweather has obviously taken that to the next level!
I went to youth group with his sister
every weekend when there was at least 40cm reported at FC we drove up to mt beauty. in the mornings we drove up to falls. if it was pissing down in the car park we did a uey and drove back to mt beauty. if it was marginal we had a cuppa and delayed the decision for a while
Reggae Ellis on Triple M. The only reporter who called it as it was.
Most hotels/guesthouses/lodges etc would publish the daily forecasts from fax reports and post at the reception area for guests to read , these also included weather maps.
Another indicator , but not totally accurate involved looking at the daily temps in Perth and Adelaide as cold fronts passed over, rain in Perth and a daytime max of 20c was a good indicator, anything above that indicated rain would fall in the Aussie ski resorts.
Cant remember what the Adelaide temps were, but the 4 day charts were published in all the daily papers.
From memory a high sitting over S.E Australia just pushed the cold fronts south and was not good news
Oh...those Uncle Dougy days
He is a kook
Sticky taped in various locations in jindy.
Usually near bits n pizza and pow
From the 1930s to the 1960s and beyond, snow reports were printed in the weather section of daily metro newspapers. There was a page between the editorial pages and the start of the classified ads with miscellaneous things like a synoptic map, weather forecasts and stuff like shipping arrivals and court notices... and on Thursdays it had a run down on snow conditions at each resort in tiny 6 point type.
The resort or lift company management generally phoned through the reports, so they were not always objective or honest. In the 1920s Donna Buang had a phone line for fire spotters in summer which was disconnected outside the fire season. From the 1930s the Forests Commission was convinced to keep the phone line open in winter and there was a roster for trusted people staying at the club lodges on Donna to phone the four daily Melbourne newspapers at designated times with the snow report.
Like the soon to be (if not already) de-commissioned talking clock. There was one for Thredbo, which I'd call often in 1981. When the report tailed off with a nod to the golf course being open then that was indicative of conditions on the slopes.
It's interesting to see how the coverage has changed even in the last decade. I remember when a fall in April or May would lead to certain shills in the daily papers spruiking it as a sign of "the best season in years" and encouraging people to book early. Now there is a more moderate approach given you can see the exact conditions in real time year round.
How many degrees of separation from Rob are you?
In WA we would call that getting “Perthed”; doesn’t quite work calling it getting Robbed does it
I agree with @fenrir
Damn, that was actually really interesting, not only as a history of ski.com.au , but also the history of internet marketing of the last 2 decades (which really is pretty much the entire history of internet marketing), how merciless and almost lawless it is.
What gets me, is how one sort of assumes that things will always get better, I mean things become more efficient and usable, generally speaking, so my greatest lament is that Facebook killed the forum, a place where one could discuss a topic in great detail and nuances over a long time if need be, I have learned so much from so many people (once you look past the petty squabbles), which was entirely the point, being able to communicate ideas with as many people as possible as efficiently as possible, and Facebook just can't do that.
But ski.com.au is still here I hear you say, but that is only through Richard's and Ian's grace. So many others have disappeared that I frequented. I think we're all the poorer for it.
Its changed dramatically in the last 10 or so years because we all have smartphones you can have your say 24/7 just about anywere.
And as such I think we should all support them by buying our memberships and attending functions where we can
See ya in 2 weeks Melbs!
Exactly why i have bitched and moaned to those who complain when the resorts overstate snowfalls!!!..........live cams at every aspect and altitude , amazing weather data many days out...etc, etc. Back in the day....Reggae!
When I lived in Christchurch for a few years back in the 90s, I would walk up to the end of the street to see Mount Hutt in the distance then go back in and phone up the snow report phone message, then 90 mins later would be on snow.
Otherwise it was the SMH newspaper or Reggae Ellis back in the 80s.
Lies. No you didn’t.
A random sample of the snow report in The Canberra Times although the year (1981) was chosen for the obvious reason. 21 August 1981.
"Five lifts at Perisher are still buried under four metres of snow." Ah, happy days. Interesting to speculate which five lifts were buried, with Olympic obviously being one of them.
Note also radio reports on 2CA 4 days a week.
Interesting, but the snow ballet was cancelled because of "wet snow"
Eyre would have been buried in August. In October, a couple of weekendss after the long weekend, Eyre was running in a trench in the snow that was over head height in places. It was quite a year.
In the 90's when working at Guthega was lucky enough to receive the BOM fax. Would take it down to Jindy and study it with mates for hours over drinks and other things. We had regular visitors pop round most evenings to try and get a take on the next dump.
That's fantastic. I've actually got something to run by you sometime potentially, if I ever get around to it.